Are you a kinky, curious girl, who thinks she's a sub? Are you an experienced sub

[Sinpain]

Boo boo.

Ok so we’ve never been involved, and I see your polite posts from the past, so what crawled up your ass to be like this now?

The fact that you’re even attempting to troll me is already humbling you, since anyone who actually knows how to read all previous posts and has good reading comprehension skills can see that you’re either a trolling hater or..... someone who’s really bored during this pandemic and needs attention, which is totally understandable.

Surely you can find other ways to entertain yourself?

Btw you may even be even more humbled when you’re read what another sub who reached out to me specifically because of what your trolling has to say lol

Save your time. I know you’re only going to respond with yet another baseless insult but if it will make you feel better, please feel free.

I like making people feel good.

Either way, it’s a win-win for me!

When was the last time you came?

If you need any help with that, let me know

Oh my god, no. We have never been involved.

You think you can “humble” me? Bahahahaha!! You don’t hold any power over anyone who doesn’t give it to you. Why would your opinion of me bother me in any way? It’s clear I’m under your skin, but you don’t matter to me at all. I think this is one of the funniest threads on Lit. It’s unintentionally funny, which makes it all the more entertaining.

 

[ToPleaseHim]

Ok so we’ve never been involved, and I see your polite posts from the past, so what crawled up your ass to be like this now?

The fact that you’re even attempting to troll me is already humbling you, since anyone who actually knows how to read all previous posts and has good reading comprehension skills can see that you’re either a trolling hater or..... someone who’s really board during this pandemic and needs attention, which is totally understandable.

Surely you can find other ways to entertain yourself?

Btw you may even be even more humbled when you’re read what another sub who reached out to me specifically because of your trolling has to say lol

Save your time. I know you’re only going to respond with yet another baseless insult but if it will make you feel better, please feel free.

I like making people feel good.

Either way, it’s a win-win for me!

When was the last time you came?

If you need any help with that, let me know

Board? Sorry, you don’t meet my minimum IQ requirement.

I will appreciate when another woman comes here and leaves a raving review she’s been instructed to leave. Let’s get this BS thread back on track!

 

[Sinpain]

More fun!

Board? Sorry, you don’t meet my minimum IQ requirement.

I will appreciate when another woman comes here and leaves a raving review she’s been instructed to leave. Let’s get this BS thread back on track!

Good, because you’ll also appreciate all the fun you’ll be missing out on yet again, leaving you to your now usual mundane routine of trolling. Enjoy!

Who’s thread is this? I’m sorry.... who’s thread?

Thought so

You need a really good licking, don’t you?

Maybe you’ll let go of your hate, anger and fear long enough to enjoy what everyone else has been enjoying.

Have you cum really good yet? I don’t think so.

If your next response is kind, we’ll all know the answer lol

 

[Darksideofthemoon49]

Please don't stop this witty repartee

It's awesome!!

 

[ToPleaseHim]

Please don't stop this witty repartee

It's awesome!!

Glad you posted something funny! His last comment made me vomit in my mouth a little. Ick.

 

[Sinpain]

Looks like we have our answer, folks!

Glad you posted something funny! His last comment made me vomit in my mouth a little. Ick.

Didn’t cum good yet, huh?

Hope you don’t explode

 

[Darksideofthemoon49]

Please don't stop now......it's pissing down with rain here and I need something to cheer me up

 

[crazyangel7]

As a newcomer to this thread (yes, I read it all!) I just had to leave my 2 cents. Not only have I giggled my way through reading parts of this exchange, I feel I've learned a lot.

I'm not very experienced in online interactions here, but elsewhere, a popular trope is that 'there aren't any women on the internet', and I've had long experience of being told to prove my gender or admit to being a man (mostly when gaming). I am a woman, and have never come across anyone pretending to be a different gender, in all my decades of using the internet. This attitude is a form of misogyny - by all means punish those catfishing as the wrong gender online, but the burden of proof shouldn't fall upon all women. For Sinpain to expect a woman to do this at the beginning of an interaction, in this context - with such a personal type of interaction, strikes me as very dodgy. For him to attempt to punish and publically shame those women who won't comply with his unreasonable demands is very toxic.

Thank you to everyone calling him out on this and for educating those of us who might not have the experience to recognise that we are treated badly. I can imagine the awkwardness of opening this up to public scrutiny and I hope I would have had the strength to do so too.

I think it would be a good idea to set up some kind of red flag system here, where people who have had problems with a user could give their account to warn others, and maybe a verification system would make sense too.

If you read it all then I am not sure why you didn't seem to take me into account at all? You can't pick and choose the pieces you want to focus on.

Also, it seems a bit disingenious to imply you lack experience. You have been on this site since 2015........and you advertise yourself as a 35 yo woman. I mean.........really? Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm misreading, but seems a bit off.

I won't comment extensively on your desire for a red flag system, but I would argue it is unrealistic in this setting. Users come and go, there are those that end up with multiple profiles (for logistical or nefarious reasons), and....just like with any business or service review, those with complaints/anger, well founded or not, are always louder.

 

[Sinpain]

WTF are you talking about?

Go back to school to learn how to read. I’ve never ‘’Tried to blackmail’’ anyone, so there’s no ‘’Incident’’ and there’s nothing to apologize for. Nothing to whitewash away’’. Nothing was ‘’flagged’’ or ‘’resolved’’
If you reall want to help people out, show the proof.
Post the links to what you’re talking about. I’m convinced you’re either a troll, or some person I didn’t want to be involved with. I don’t see your name on any threads mine, so if I was such a bad person, where are your posts speaking up about it?
Go back to reading stories haha!!
All of my posts are still up for everyone to read. Nothing’s been taken down. There’s no way to even do that on this site, you idiot.
Hey all you jealous hater troll like this one! Keep up the good work at making my thread even more popular!

What happened with Sinpain and the lady he tried to blackmail had nothing to do with you, I think? That incident is the only problem I have with him, and 100 women coming here afterwards and gushing about how great he is at his own request (OK, some of them had negative things to say, even if they changed their views later) doesn't change the fact that he behaved badly and has some disgusting attitudes. What he did won't be whitewashed away, no matter how great you think he is.

Some info for your personal attacks : I come to this site, and have come to this site for 20 years at least, primarily to read stories. I joined in 2015 because I wanted to write stories and maybe connect with people here. I mention my lack of experience because I wanted to make clear that I'm no expert on these kinds of relationships - because I'm not, and I don't want to appear other than I am. I don't have much IRL experience of D/s relationships. Maybe that is strange for someone of my age who is interested in this stuff, but it's true. So, I can imagine that having one's boundaries pushed etc is part of the fun of these relationships, but I think what happened here goes beyond that, into abuse. Just meeting someone and having that happen would not be a good experience. If I wanted to meet up with someone IRL from here, I'd be reassured if he had a long history here, and positive 'reviews', or at least, if someone had flagged an interaction with him, he had resolved it.

The main issue here is that Sinpain has caused a problem with his actions (which anyone could do - no one is perfect), but rather than show empathy and maturity and apologise, he doubled down on his bad attitude and personal attacks. I've often observed that, in trying to be strong, (men especially) show their weaknesses. Only a truly strong person can see their faults, admit to them, make restitution and learn from what happened. Not only that, but his whole motivation for doing this was fear - fear that he might be talking to a man. So to call out another person (and a submissive woman, no less) on her fears seems a bit rich, doesn't it.

I guess I'd need to feel that any man who would dominate me was at least my equal, if not my superior. You seem like an intelligent woman... don't sell yourself short.

Best of luck!

 

[Primalex]

I assume he was there as an observer for protection sake because she asked.

Of course, controlling the communication of your submissive is a common technique in abusive relationships, too. Considering how often his own submissives use the word "narcistic", I don't think this is about the submissives desire for protection, but much more about his own desire - very much like it's not the submissives, that require to use capital letters for SIR to feel submissive towards him, but that he requires it to feel dominant and...capital.

 

[Primalex]

I just clicked the order of views option which shows that mine is the most viewed.

But we need to take the age of the thread into account.

So, actually, gentleDom45's thread with 35k views in only half the time is more popular, yet devoid of any drama, so it's seems the problem is not some "regulars" shitting on "popular dominants".

 

[Primalex]

All of my posts are still up for everyone to read. Nothing’s been taken down. There’s no way to even do that on this site, you idiot.

One unwritten rule I remember from back when this site was really popular was that it was frowned upon for people to comment with off-topic stuff in relation to the subject of the thread. Mods used to enforce it all the time.

Fascinating.

 

[crazyangel7]

What happened with Sinpain and the lady he tried to blackmail had nothing to do with you, I think? That incident is the only problem I have with him, and 100 women coming here afterwards and gushing about how great he is at his own request (OK, some of them had negative things to say, even if they changed their views later) doesn't change the fact that he behaved badly and has some disgusting attitudes. What he did won't be whitewashed away, no matter how great you think he is.

*******This is what he posted in 2014 about that girl - veletoblue - "Even though she doesn't say that she's only looking for an online thing, she also doesn't want to prove her gender. Just thought you'd all like to know this. I'm not saying she's a man..... I'm just telling you want happeed so far. She also wants to know my kinks"

She replied - "You made good on your passive aggressive threat if I did not talk to you.

It is bullshit, truly."

You can read the full exchange here - http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1045983.

Then, similar to now, things got very heated, very quickly off of little information and became fights about bigger issues and rules of contact/conduct. Sinpain never blackmailed anyone, but somehow continually becomes a villian, a stand-in for something people have reasonable concerns about. Yes, sinpain, I can refer to him that way; I have not out of respect for our dynamic.....if that is something you all can understand. Again, people twist the use of SIR by subs into something sinister.....when it isnt at all. ******

Some info for your personal attacks : I come to this site, and have come to this site for 20 years at least, primarily to read stories. I joined in 2015 because I wanted to write stories and maybe connect with people here. I mention my lack of experience because I wanted to make clear that I'm no expert on these kinds of relationships - because I'm not, and I don't want to appear other than I am. I don't have much IRL experience of D/s relationships. Maybe that is strange for someone of my age who is interested in this stuff, but it's true. So, I can imagine that having one's boundaries pushed etc is part of the fun of these relationships, but I think what happened here goes beyond that, into abuse. Just meeting someone and having that happen would not be a good experience. If I wanted to meet up with someone IRL from here, I'd be reassured if he had a long history here, and positive 'reviews', or at least, if someone had flagged an interaction with him, he had resolved it.

*****I can appreciate that. And I must apologize, I let myself get caught up in the toxic environment that has overtaken this thread. ****

The main issue here is that Sinpain has caused a problem with his actions (which anyone could do - no one is perfect), but rather than show empathy and maturity and apologise, he doubled down on his bad attitude and personal attacks. I've often observed that, in trying to be strong, (men especially) show their weaknesses. Only a truly strong person can see their faults, admit to them, make restitution and learn from what happened. Not only that, but his whole motivation for doing this was fear - fear that he might be talking to a man. So to call out another person (and a submissive woman, no less) on her fears seems a bit rich, doesn't it.

*****Again, Sinpain has received repeated aggression. I agree there are softer words he could have used in his responses, but I understand the high emotions involved. It is a tough position to be asked to apologize for something you didn't do. Also, his motivation wasn't fear. The goal for many of us here is a sexual connection. Sinpain is firmly heterosexual. If he is pursuing someone sexually, it is natural to want to confirm sex before getting attached/wasting time. This is particularly true for him since he is open to IRL and many relationships have gone that direction. *******

I guess I'd need to feel that any man who would dominate me was at least my equal, if not my superior. You seem like an intelligent woman... don't sell yourself short.

******I appreciate your compliment. I am an intelligent, strong woman. I am a feminist, I am in STEM. SIR is my DOM and I am his sub. He is worthy of me and I of him. *******

Best of luck!

Best of luck to you as well.

Looks like my comments are embedded, not sure how to fix that. I will put stars around my words.

 

[crazyangel7]

Of course, controlling the communication of your submissive is a common technique in abusive relationships, too. Considering how often his own submissives use the word "narcistic", I don't think this is about the submissives desire for protection, but much more about his own desire - very much like it's not the submissives, that require to use capital letters for SIR to feel submissive towards him, but that he requires it to feel dominant and...capital.

Would you want your sub to potentially be in harms way with a new, at that point random, person? If you wouldn't do it in person, why would online be any different??

Also, everyone's dynamic is different. We all have things we enjoy more of or less of. As long as things are negotiated, and revisted, it shouldnt matter to others what sinpain/SIR creates with his subs.

You should really focus on yourself instead of trying to tear other dynamics down. Why are you so butthurt about what a dom chooses to be called to show respect and deference?

I am his sub. I am safe. I am more than happy with our dynamic. The end.

 

[Primalex]

Sinpain never blackmailed anyone

Well, what terminology would you use then, if someone says:"Prove that you are female to me or I will tell everyone in public that you are a fake, so no one will talk to you any longer or take you seriously."?

And like Sinpain declares he stands behind everything he has said, I can only repeat that I still stand 100% behind what I've said at that time:

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=58126735&postcount=41

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=58101703&postcount=30

 

[Primalex]

Would you want your sub to potentially be in harms way with a new, at that point random, person? If you wouldn't do it in person, why would online be any different??

I don't know the kind of relationships you have, but I don't expect to be around my submissive 100% of the time in the real world either. Why would I deny her the right to talk with someone alone in the real life? She did this all the years before she met me, too.

Also, everyone's dynamic is different. We all have things we enjoy more of or less of. As long as things are negotiated, and revisted, it shouldnt matter to others what sinpain/SIR creates with his subs.

It doesn't - what matters is his conduct in the forum here, his behavior towards those people who refuse to play with him and what he tells his submissives to do here in the forum.

And you state yourself:"as long as things are negotiated".

"Do this or I will make sure it will have bad consequences for you!" - is this negotiation with someone who is not your submissive in your book?

 

[Sinpain]

Dude... you’ve been trolling me for years like Lex Luthor lol

I wish I’d remembered that you are the same troller from years ago.

You may have the last word. You’re actually giving my thread more interest and subs are reaching out to me, and we’re all having fun, so thanks for that.

Just like I told you years ago with your trolling, I won’t be responding to your posts, but if my subs care enough, they might. I don’t prevent anyone from talking anyone, and I’m actually quite generous, as noted by the many men who’ve had the chance to play with my subs and have stated so right here on this thread. You should’ve played your cards right, by being chill but now... years later.... you’re still a v-card holding incel troller. In order to keep our society safe by preventing you from buying a gun and going on a rampage, you have an open invitation to get rid of your blue balls on cam with anyone of my subs.

My subs are having fun, and so am I. That’s all that matters.

I don't know the kind of relationships you have, but I don't expect to be around my submissive 100% of the time in the real world either. Why would I deny her the right to talk with someone alone in the real life? She did this all the years before she met me, too.



It doesn't - what matters is his conduct in the forum here, his behavior towards those people who refuse to play with him and what he tells his submissives to do here in the forum.

And you state yourself:"as long as things are negotiated".

"Do this or I will make sure it will have bad consequences for you!" - is this negotiation with someone who is not your submissive in your book?

 

[Sinpain]

That’s why I totally ignored her lol

Did you just drop a plug for your story?

Definitely plugging lol

 

[Sinpain]

Yup! You got me.

Aren’t you that blackmailer?
Just catching up.

The one and the same lol

 

[Primalex]

Just like I told you years ago with your trolling, I won’t be responding to your posts,

So there are two things you don't understand - how to not blackmail people and how to not respond.

 

[crazyangel7]

Palate cleanse

My recent posts on this thread and some of my historical posts have triggered new messages/interest in my direction. I am flattered, but I would request those who might want to play with me post here first.

Your post will help keep my inbox from maxing out and help me figure out who I am interested in responding to.

I am married and have a DOM (if that wasn't clear yet ), so if that isn't your cup of tea, please move on. I will message those I am interested in privately. Formal play will have to receive permission from my DOM.

 

[the_ontarian]

I would request those who might want to play with me post here first.

Consider this my request for play Feel free to inbox me with questions.

 

[Primalex]

My recent posts on this thread and some of my historical posts have triggered new messages/interest in my direction. I am flattered, but I would request those who might want to play with me post here first.

Well, I'm still interested in answers to my questions. If you feel humiliated by answering them, it might be considered "play" I guess.

I've listed them here for your convenience:

• What terminology would you use, if someone says:"Prove that you are female to me or I will tell everyone in public that you are a fake, so no one will talk to you any longer or take you seriously."?
• "Do this or I will make sure it will have bad consequences for you!" - is this negotiation with someone who is not your submissive in your book?

 

[crazyangel7]

Consider this my request for play Feel free to inbox me with questions.

Check your inbox

Others will receive responses afrer posting here

 

[Primalex]

You know that a commendation from a pathetic excuse for a woman is worthless, too? If you can't show that you can distinguish between morally right and morally wrong, why would your assessment of a person be of any value to anyone?