At what point do you pay to lose virginity?

I am in a dark dark place right now....i am dangerously close to claiming your negative attitude as my own......please say something positive to save us both fron the abyss! Something, anything!!

Is it really negative? Or is it realistic? Because I'm stating facts here.

Before salary = no women.
After salary = women lick me on my earlobe and try to grab my balls

I'm just sayin'. Three weeks and I have a girl who is dropping major hints after years of drought. There's 1 common denominator here and it aint my looks.

That ho is digging for gold, but they aint no gold.
 
Is it really negative? Or is it realistic? Because I'm stating facts here.

Before salary = no women.
After salary = women lick me on my earlobe and try to grab my balls

I'm just sayin'. Three weeks and I have a girl who is dropping major hints after years of drought. There's 1 common denominator here and it aint my looks.

That ho is digging for gold, but they aint no gold.

Did you see my last post???? I need positive not negative.....the abyss Christopher....its gonna claim you if you dont watch out
 
Is it really negative? Or is it realistic? Because I'm stating facts here.

Before salary = no women.
After salary = women lick me on my earlobe and try to grab my balls

I'm just sayin'. Three weeks and I have a girl who is dropping major hints after years of drought. There's 1 common denominator here and it aint my looks.

That ho is digging for gold, but they aint no gold.

Ive got my own money...i dont need yours...come on over, I'll lick your ear if it will make you feel better.
 
Did you see my last post???? I need positive not negative.....the abyss Christopher....its gonna claim you if you dont watch out

Oh well... okay I'll try to play this game.

I'm off for TWO DAYS. FUCK. YEAH. *exclamation mark*
 
Ive got my own money...i dont need yours...come on over, I'll lick your ear if it will make you feel better.

Haha But I get that at work. ;)

If you want to lick something else, though....
 
Hey again,

Maybe I was a little pre-emptive with jumping to the conclusion that I would need to pay for sex, my reasoning was thus; Women my age will expect experiance, Women of my experiance wont like my age, as I cant change my age the only factor I can affect is my experiance.

Losing my virginity wasnt the goal, its a means to an end. if I had even basic experiance it would give me a little more confidence to be able to approach women when I am looking for the real thing.

I can see the points many of you are making though, its not "real", it certainly doesnt substitute for being with a woman I love and in the long run it would probably make things worse. It is just very frustrating being where I am at the moment, the entire world seems bent around sex and relationships, everywhere you look its sex on tv in films, advertising, couples walking the streets in bars resturants and then me, with noone.

The cure is confidence I know, I just need to find an anchor to pin my confidence on, some aspect that I can feel good about and project, easy to say, harder to achieve.

Other than a lack of apostrophies I dont think there is anything wrong with my spelling/grammar.
 
Hey again,

Maybe I was a little pre-emptive with jumping to the conclusion that I would need to pay for sex, my reasoning was thus; Women my age will expect experiance, Women of my experiance wont like my age, as I cant change my age the only factor I can affect is my experiance.

Losing my virginity wasnt the goal, its a means to an end. if I had even basic experiance it would give me a little more confidence to be able to approach women when I am looking for the real thing.

I can see the points many of you are making though, its not "real", it certainly doesnt substitute for being with a woman I love and in the long run it would probably make things worse. It is just very frustrating being where I am at the moment, the entire world seems bent around sex and relationships, everywhere you look its sex on tv in films, advertising, couples walking the streets in bars resturants and then me, with noone.

The cure is confidence I know, I just need to find an anchor to pin my confidence on, some aspect that I can feel good about and project, easy to say, harder to achieve.

Other than a lack of apostrophies I dont think there is anything wrong with my spelling/grammar.

I'm inclined to think that the kind of experience you're talking about--the kind that "women my age will expect"--is not the kind of experience you're going to get from prostitutes.

What you need is basic social and intersexual relations skills. The sex part pretty much takes care of itself, once you learn to see women as approachable people and not goddesses.
 
Not being a woman your age, and with generalizations being bad in general, I can only say what I have observed. Much of what I've observed more recently comes from spending a lot of time with young mothers at my kid's school and engaged couples, which does color things somewhat.

Women your age expect respect for them, respect for yourself, self esteem, an acceptance of who they are, to be treated as a friend, a reasonable plan for your life, and a general willingness to commit for the long term if things are working out. When I first had sex it was obvious that I was inexperienced, but my lover was kind and understanding. I think that is probably the norm.

Perhaps women in your age group who read this post can talk a little more about what they expect from a date, boyfriend, or long term commitment. Granted, this is a sex board so there's probably a fair number of gals who'd like a man with sexual experience, but willing men are easy to teach :p

I wasn't trying to be a spelling and grammar Nazi. I was just pointing out that spelling errors do not present you in the best possible light to someone reading your ads. Your misspelled words in this post are :
experiance
didnt, doesnt, wouldnt are contractions. They get an apostrophe (E.g. didn't).
socialising is correct depending on where you are.
prefered
hidious

Hey again,

Maybe I was a little pre-emptive with jumping to the conclusion that I would need to pay for sex, my reasoning was thus; Women my age will expect experiance, Women of my experiance wont like my age, as I cant change my age the only factor I can affect is my experiance.

Losing my virginity wasnt the goal, its a means to an end. if I had even basic experiance it would give me a little more confidence to be able to approach women when I am looking for the real thing.

I can see the points many of you are making though, its not "real", it certainly doesnt substitute for being with a woman I love and in the long run it would probably make things worse. It is just very frustrating being where I am at the moment, the entire world seems bent around sex and relationships, everywhere you look its sex on tv in films, advertising, couples walking the streets in bars resturants and then me, with noone.

The cure is confidence I know, I just need to find an anchor to pin my confidence on, some aspect that I can feel good about and project, easy to say, harder to achieve.

Other than a lack of apostrophies I dont think there is anything wrong with my spelling/grammar.
 
I'm inclined to think that the kind of experience you're talking about--the kind that "women my age will expect"--is not the kind of experience you're going to get from prostitutes.

What you need is basic social and intersexual relations skills. The sex part pretty much takes care of itself, once you learn to see women as approachable people and not goddesses.

Yep, this. Most women would much rather be involved with a virgin who treats them respectfully and is willing to learn than an "expert" who thinks he knows it all. 'Cause women aren't video games: even if you know the cheat codes that curl one woman's toes, there's no guarantee they'll do anything for the next woman.

Good sex workers have those social and sexual skills, but they're not normally in the business of teaching them.

Your misspelled words in this post are :
experiance
didnt, doesnt, wouldnt are contractions. They get an apostrophe (E.g. didn't).
socialising is correct depending on where you are.
prefered
hidious

also, ironically enough, "apostrophies" (lose the 'i').
 
I don't know if you've gone through with this or not... but if you haven't or if any other lurkers are curious i'll give my reply.

Paying for sex to me is the same thing as paying for a haircut, getting my nails trimmed, or having someone mow my lawn. If you have sex with a prostitute to lose your vcard you will find that it meant nothing to you. That sex is easy and your body knew what to do once you got started. You will walk away with the knowledge that you didn't need to pay for it in the first place, and a nagging feeling that you should get tested for aids soon.

to conclude that, don't pay for sex if it's just to lose your vcard. If you want to have a good time with a hooker, or go to an erotic massage therapist after that's all on you and it's totally fine in my opinion. If you do decide to get an escort or "provider" as they are known to people who use them, do your research, learn lingo and abbreviation, and measure your expectations.


Oh, and for the love of god don't go around telling ladies that you visit asian massage parlors or hang out with hookers once a month :p They've been brainwashed to be unattracted to men who use those services, for the most part :p
 
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Women my age will expect experiance, Women of my experiance wont like my age, as I cant change my age the only factor I can affect is my experiance.

Don't worry too much about your age. I'm still a virgin at 33 and if I met a guy my age who didn't have any experience either, I wouldn't hold it against him. I would respect him for respecting himself enough to not have meaningless sex. Anybody who wouldn't respect you for that is not a person you'd want to be with.

The cure is confidence I know, I just need to find an anchor to pin my confidence on, some aspect that I can feel good about and project, easy to say, harder to achieve.

Think about things you've done that you're proud of. They can be little things, it doesn't have to be epic. Don't feel bad if it's something you only did a long time ago. Or consider the values you live by that you feel are important and meaningful. Grow confidence from being the person that you are right now at this moment.

Aside from that, I feel your frustration. All of my high school friends are married with kids, and I haven't even started dating.
 
I really cannot say from experience, but unless you're getting a pretty high end hooker or spending some serious cash, I can't imagine you'd be getting more education on sex except how to cum. Their job is really to make you cum. Not to teach you stuff. I don't know about you, but I have a doctorate in orgasming myself. I got that by the time I was 15. I was the Doogie Howser of cumming.

Perhaps a high end escort would provide you with experience. Maybe. Maybe not. Perhaps someone could tell me I'm wrong. Who knows. There's a first time for everything.
 
Yep, this. Most women would much rather be involved with a virgin who treats them respectfully and is willing to learn than an "expert" who thinks he knows it all. 'Cause women aren't video games: even if you know the cheat codes that curl one woman's toes, there's no guarantee they'll do anything for the next woman.

Good sex workers have those social and sexual skills, but they're not normally in the business of teaching them.



also, ironically enough, "apostrophies" (lose the 'i').

Talk to Kingsak - he curls my toes everytime - and with respect!:kiss:
 
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