Attention Spider Clown

[HisArpy]

I’d love to hear how they’re obstructing federal enforcement. Any examples? Court cases?

Here you go

 

[Conager]

Why is Que butthurt, and what did I ever do to him?

Sounds like you are probably projecting. There seems to be a lot of that going around.

Guessing by your deflection you don't want to answer the question^.

I’d love to hear how Que is butthurt by "this one.". Any examples of him being butthurt by me? Posts?

 

[Rightguide]

Talk about deflection. No one is talking about requiring cities to perform enforcement activities. What is being discussed by the adults is active obstruction of federal enforcement, which as the original post points out is a Federal crime, in and of itself.

. . .but since you seem to insist on answers to your poorly formed questions, yes, they certainly can and fo participate in federal enforcement actions, should they choose to. Many local ordinances are patterned after and concurrent to Federal Statutes.

For instance, Spider Clown forgets (to be kind) the States collect Federal income taxes which is an enforcement of federal law. He fails to understand that States cannot have their own immigration system.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

For instance, Spider Clown forgets (to be kind) the States collect Federal income taxes which is an enforcement of federal law. He fails to understand that States cannot have their own immigration system.

So like we’ve discussed several times local law enforcement can’t do anything with federal immigration laws even if they wanted to.

 

[Conager]

I'm sorry no one is taking you up on your straw man argument. No one is talking about local law enforcement being required to "do anything" other than refrain from actively harboring illegal aliens or violating public records laws by not disclosing the whereabouts of illegal aliens within their custody.

Maybe you'll have better luck arguing the matter at hand, rather than one you made up.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

I'm sorry no one is taking you up on your straw man argument. No one is talking about local law enforcement being required to "do anything" other than refrain from actively harboring illegal aliens or violating public records laws by not disclosing the whereabouts of illegal aliens within their custody.

Maybe you'll have better luck arguing the matter at hand, rather than one you made up.

And again, no law enforcement official anywhere is harboring illegal aliens. You seem to be having a real hard time understanding what a sanctuary city is, what the laws are and what a strawman is.

 

[SpeareChucker]

And again, no law enforcement official anywhere is harboring illegal aliens. You seem to be having a real hard time understanding what a sanctuary city is, what the laws are and what a strawman is.

How do you know that?

Is harboring some sort of "open secret?"

 

[icanhelp1]

So like we’ve discussed several times local law enforcement can’t do anything with federal immigration laws even if they wanted to.

So if a murder/ robbery crosses state lines it becomes a federal crime but state and local officials can't enforce the law and apprehend the criminals. So all the intelligence work done by NYPD to stave off a terrorist attack is unauthorized because it's fed law. For a city or state to formulate a state statute proclaiming itself a sanctuary city or state is in direct conflict with fed immigration statutes and feds could prosecute politicians on so many levels. Courts that harbour illegals could find themselves in legal trouble.

 

[Conager]

And again, no law enforcement official anywhere is harboring illegal aliens. You seem to be having a real hard time understanding what a sanctuary city is, what the laws are and what a strawman is.

That is great to hear. Do the illegal aliens that have been told they will find safe harbor or "sanctuary" in sanctuary cities know that police and other local officials are not actually going to offer them any kind of assistance with their day-to-day life or shield them from discovery by Federal immigration agents?

Is it one of those sting operations to trick them into settling in sanctuary cities to make it easier for the Feds to round up?

 

[bellisarius]

So if a murder/ robbery crosses state lines it becomes a federal crime but state and local officials can't enforce the law and apprehend the criminals. So all the intelligence work done by NYPD to stave off a terrorist attack is unauthorized because it's fed law. For a city or state to formulate a state statute proclaiming itself a sanctuary city or state is in direct conflict with fed immigration statutes and feds could prosecute politicians on so many levels. Courts that harbour illegals could find themselves in legal trouble.

Actually I think the ruling in this case sets up the possibility of the Feds going after said cities, states, and officials. The fact that the defendant wasn't an elected official is of no consequence to the merits of the case as I read it. Neither the law nor the ruling makes any such distinction.

 

[Rightguide]

So like we’ve discussed several times local law enforcement can’t do anything with federal immigration laws even if they wanted to.

Federal immigration laws can be used to put officials in jail however:

Feds charge Mass. judge with obstruction for aiding undocumented immigrant's escape from ICE
Kevin Johnson
Joey Garrison
USA TODAY

BOSTON – Federal prosecutors charged a Massachusetts judge with obstruction of justice Thursday, saying she prevented immigration agents from arresting an undocumented immigrant after a state court hearing by allowing him to leave the courthouse through a back door.

The indictment marked an unusual escalation in the federal government's strict immigration enforcement policy, and its battles with states and local governments that shelter migrants. The indictment accuses District Judge Shelley Richmond Joseph and a court officer, Wesley MacGregor, of allowing the immigrant to leave the courthouse, out of a federal agent's sight, and lying about it later.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...wing-illegal-immigrant-escape-ice/3574450002/

 

[bellisarius]

I wonder how that Oakland mayor is feeling right about now?

 

[Rightguide]

I wonder how that Oakland mayor is feeling right about now?

The case I posted was from last year and could be ongoing. I only posted it to illustrate Spider's lack of awareness of current events. I think all of these city, state, and county, officials are taking pause. All it takes is a President and an AG determined to enforce existing law.