Bernie!

[L1tTleD1fferent]

Joe Biden says Sanders will endorse Clinton: ‘I’ve talked to Bernie’



Sanders rebuts Biden on Clinton endorsement: ‘We are not there at this moment’





Is it July 26th yet? Has the FBI investigation finished yet? Has Hilary become a Progressive yet? Has the DNC fired DWS yet? Well there ya go.

Biden says Bernie will do something, Bernie says he won't. There we go? That's breaking even, & so nothing changes.

 

[JackLuis]

Bernie or Bust
Where Does the Bernie Sanders Movement Go From Here?

Bernie or Bust.

It's the refrain of the fervent core of Bernie Sanders supporters who say they'll never back presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.

The number of Sanders backers — many of whom are young, independent-minded voters — who say they plan to support someone else or stay home in November is high. That has become an acute concern for the Clinton campaign.

A recent Bloomberg poll found just 55% of Sanders voters are prepared to support the former secretary of state. Should they remain demoralized through the general election battle, Clinton's hopes of unifying the party will fade, and the once-unthinkable — a Donald Trump presidency — will become increasingly plausible.

The DNC should think very hard if they want to chance Hillary losing to Trump. People dislike Hillary almost 2 to 1. She may have policy wonks in the Republican camp coming over, but that is a very small margin of the rank and file. I know they are thinking, "She's the lesser evil, the Bernie or Busters won't vote for Trump!" She only has a 3-10 point edge on Donald, but will that last if 40% don't vote in sheer disgust at the thought of another war mongering corporatist?

 

[JackLuis]

Odds Hillary Won Without Widespread Fraud: 1 in 77 Billion Says Berkeley, Stanford Studies

Widespread allegations of election fraud and voter suppression across the United States during the 2016 Democratic Primary has sparked the interest of several academic researchers and what they discovered in their research is disturbing.

The researchers each performed independent studies in which a few different statistical was applied to analyze various subsets of vote data and of the studies came to the same conclusion.

Namely that Hillary’s win was could have only been possible a result of widespread election fraud.

In fact, one of the statistical models applied by Stanford University researcher Rodolfo Cortes Barragan to a subset of the data found that the probability of the “huge discrepancies” of which “nearly all are in favor of Hillary Clinton by a huge margin” was “statistically impossible” and that “the probability of this this happening was is 1 in 77 billion”.

Furthermore, the researchers found that the election fraud only occurred in places where the voting machines were hackable and that did not keep an paper trail of the ballots.

In these locations Hillary won by massive margins.

On the other hand, in locations that were not hackable and did keep paper trails of the ballots Bernie Sanders beat Hillary Clinton.

Analysis also showed repeatedly irregularities and statistically impossible reverses in reported live votes in several locations across the country.

 

[L1tTleD1fferent]

Odds Hillary Won Without Widespread Fraud: 1 in 77 Billion Says Berkeley, Stanford Studies

Does Stanford still do their famous prison experiments (as mentioned on "Community", etc.)?

It's what the country will turn into if the Dems run her against the Don.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Odds Hillary Won Without Widespread Fraud: 1 in 77 Billion Says Berkeley, Stanford Studies

Quote:

Widespread allegations of election fraud and voter suppression across the United States during the 2016 Democratic Primary has sparked the interest of several academic researchers and what they discovered in their research is disturbing.

The researchers each performed independent studies in which a few different statistical was applied to analyze various subsets of vote data and of the studies came to the same conclusion.

Namely that Hillary’s win was could have only been possible a result of widespread election fraud.

In fact, one of the statistical models applied by Stanford University researcher Rodolfo Cortes Barragan to a subset of the data found that the probability of the “huge discrepancies” of which “nearly all are in favor of Hillary Clinton by a huge margin” was “statistically impossible” and that “the probability of this this happening was is 1 in 77 billion”.

Furthermore, the researchers found that the election fraud only occurred in places where the voting machines were hackable and that did not keep an paper trail of the ballots.

In these locations Hillary won by massive margins.

On the other hand, in locations that were not hackable and did keep paper trails of the ballots Bernie Sanders beat Hillary Clinton.

Analysis also showed repeatedly irregularities and statistically impossible reverses in reported live votes in several locations across the country.

So how does this square with all the posts I have read saying election fraud does not exist?

 

[JackLuis]

So how does this square with all the posts I have read saying election fraud does not exist?

The willfully ignorant will say most anything. There has been fraud in US elections since the first ones. It is just a matter of how much how often. I think we should ask the UN to monitor our election in November to see if we can fraud any better than Zimbabwe.

 

[JackLuis]

Sanders is itching for a convention fight

If platform flashpoints aren't resolved, the Vermont senator says he'll take his battle to the floor of the Democratic convention.

Bernie Sanders is still spoiling for a convention fight.

It seemed like Democrats could finally claim unity when no member of the Democratic National Committee's 15-person convention drafting committee voted against the draft of the policy platform draft during a meeting in St. Louis this past weekend: 13 members of the panel voted for the draft, one abstained and one missed the vote. But since then, Sanders-aligned members have teed off on the draft for not going far enough in key areas.

While both neutral national Democrats and Hillary Clinton-aligned Democrats on the DNC standing committees have hailed the draft document — which is headed to a full vote before the 187-member platform committee on July 8 and 9 in Orlando, Florida — as both satisfactory and historically progressive, Sanders supporters insist the draft remains unpalatable. Among the issues they've identified: the platform draft's treatment of Medicare expansion, the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a carbon tax, and a ban on fracking. Sanders and his allies are vowing to fight for changes in Orlando — and all the way to the convention in Philadelphia, if necessary.

Keep it up Bernie. Make the DNC establishment tell you to like it or leave, and then see what happens when half of the delegates leave!

 

[underguy1]

So how does this square with all the posts I have read saying election fraud does not exist?

There's a big difference between electoral fraud which is rampant in US elections and voter fraud which is practically non-existent,

Worse, the legislation being used to supposedly stop this non-existent voter fraud is a means of suppressing the vote, which is a form of electoral fraud.

 

[L1tTleD1fferent]

So how does this square with all the posts I have read saying election fraud does not exist?

If it didn't, we would have had a different President on 9-11 & never heard of WMDs.

I would like to see a DNC fight... Maybe reps in the ring for each, Rousey & Carano or something.... Clinton's fighter drops to her knees like all President Clinton's women, & we get the Dem president we really want.

 

[Boxlicker101]

There's a big difference between electoral fraud which is rampant in US elections and voter fraud which is practically non-existent,

Worse, the legislation being used to supposedly stop this non-existent voter fraud is a means of suppressing the vote, which is a form of electoral fraud.

The post I cited refers to election fraud but if you read it, it is obvious they are referring to voter fraud because of is reference to voting machines which do not leave a paper trail.

 

[underguy1]

The post I cited refers to election fraud but if you read it, it is obvious they are referring to voter fraud because of is reference to voting machines which do not leave a paper trail.

You didn't cite a post.

And I think you have your terminology arse about face.

 

[JackLuis]

You didn't cite a post.

And I think you have your terminology arse about face.

Well Box generally has his face in an ass.

 

[Boxlicker101]

You didn't cite a post.

And I think you have your terminology arse about face.

It was Post 1455

 

[Boxlicker101]

Well Box generally has his face in an ass.

Well, they're not as good as pussies, but they're good in their own way.

 

[KingOrfeo]

The post I cited refers to election fraud but if you read it, it is obvious they are referring to voter fraud because of is reference to voting machines which do not leave a paper trail.

No, voter fraud means fraud by a voter -- it means a legally ineligible person voting, or a person voting more than once in the same election by impersonating some other voter, or voting somewhere outside the jurisdiction where he may legally vote. That almost never happens. Any fraud involving voting machines is electoral fraud, like ballot-box stuffing -- the kind of fraud that can only be done by an insider, someone involved in the process.

 

[JackLuis]

No, voter fraud means fraud by a voter -- it means a legally ineligible person voting, or a person voting more than once in the same election by impersonating some other voter, or voting somewhere outside the jurisdiction where he may legally vote. That almost never happens. Any fraud involving voting machines is electoral fraud, like ballot-box stuffing -- the kind of fraud that can only be done by an insider, someone involved in the process.

You mean like a Rethuglican? Or a Democrap? Or an Establishment Shill?

 

[JackLuis]

Lee Camp had an interesting take on election fraud.

NY Times Reporter Says There’s NO WAY To Tell Whether Election Is Legit

 

[urguyscott]

Bernie sells out too

Bernie has taken his bribe and now is selling out his followers. If they hadn't been so stupid in the first place they would have seen this coming. He is no different than Clinton, Obama or Trump. I hope he got a better pay off then the AG and the head of the FBI did for turning Nazi.

 

[Blue]

Bernie has taken his bribe and now is selling out his followers. If they hadn't been so stupid in the first place they would have seen this coming. He is no different than Clinton, Obama or Trump. I hope he got a better pay off then the AG and the head of the FBI did for turning Nazi.

Because he's endorsing Hillary? Just last week he tried to get the Clinton campaign staff, who represent her, to agree to a legally binding agreement that they would enact reform to the Israel-Palestine situation, create a universal healthcare and education system, to [basically just stop intervening in foreign nations so much], and five or six other progressive policies that he has been campaigning for decades for.
They only agreed to one of the two Israel-Palestine policies that Sanders' staff proposed.

He's really nothing like her or the other establishment politicians, but he's endorsing her (Even though he's still in the race) because he realizes he won't be the nominee and has stated that he will do all he can to prevent a Trump presidency.

I don't see how Trump's staff haven't seen the opportunity though; they should offer Bernie the spot of VP under a Trump administration.

 

[L1tTleD1fferent]

Bernie has taken his bribe and now is selling out his followers. If they hadn't been so stupid in the first place they would have seen this coming. He is no different than Clinton, Obama or Trump. I hope he got a better pay off then the AG and the head of the FBI did for turning Nazi.

Bernie has not taken any bribe & is not selling anyone out. The stupid ones are the ones who voted for a second President Clinton instead of a first Bern. (Their voting in the primaries proves they need to go back to primary school.)

I am only hoping someone in my home county (which I've seen will be having Rep-related events around the time the Convention is in Cleveland) makes some "Reps Are Retards" or related bumper stickers & things to pass around.

 

[about_average]

The post I cited refers to election fraud but if you read it, it is obvious they are referring to voter fraud because of is reference to voting machines which do not leave a paper trail.

Exactly how is that voter fraud? Voters have no control over the voting machines.

The line said

Furthermore, the researchers found that the election fraud only occurred in places where the voting machines were hackable and that did not keep an paper trail of the ballots.

That's only voter fraud in the very loosest sense of the word, in that probably the person behind the scenes who hack them is a voter.

True voter fraud is someone voting when they shouldn't be, or more than once.

If I vote at two polling stations that's voter fraud.
Someone counting my ballot twice (hacking a voting machine) in no way makes me guilty of voter fraud.

 

[about_average]

Lee Camp had an interesting take on election fraud.
NY Times Reporter Says There’s NO WAY To Tell Whether Election Is Legit

Yet people still poo poo the fact that no paper trail and proprietary voting software makes electronic voting easily hackable.

 

[L1tTleD1fferent]

electronic voting easily hackable.

That alone is a true statement. The rest of your post was "poo poo"... Just like the person Bernie endorsed instead of the proper candidate being the choice available for President by either of the main parties this Fall.

 

[erostwo]

Health Care's a Sham

The Grove Tube... !

 

[urguyscott]

The fact remains that he DID join her and did SELL out to her. Hillary is a very good gangster. Not a good politician or leader, but great at corruption, bribery, and threats. She sells herself like a whore which is why they call her the Whore of Wall Street, but she also sells out to the dictators overseas so she is an equal opportunity political whore. Now Bernie will ask you all to back her, even after all he has tried to explain about her in the past, but she has made him an "offer he can't refuse" even if both he and you know she won't keep it. Bernie is just another politician. And he believes in the Communists views of where the people are controlled by the government and not the government controlled by the people. We sure didn't have must of a choice this election.