Bi-sexuality

[banes27]

I wonder how they did their tests. If it was just interviews, the hetero men could have been lying to make themselves seem more macho.

Hmmm, I'm not sure. Some of the tests I read about that gave these results were based on sexual images involving 2 men, 2 women and 1 man and 1 woman and trying to determine how aroused the person was by them and maybe a few other tests and interviews to rule out exagerration but some of these have been criticised because not all people show arousal in the same way in certain circumstances.

 

[iswallowloads]

Hmmm, I'm not sure. Some of the tests I read about that gave these results were based on sexual images involving 2 men, 2 women and 1 man and 1 woman and trying to determine how aroused the person was by them and maybe a few other tests and interviews to rule out exagerration but some of these have been criticised because not all people show arousal in the same way in certain circumstances.

I guess measuring arousal would be pretty hard (sorry, bad pun). A lot would depend on the individual - how comfortable they are being watched, how long it's been since they've had sex, how they view their own sexuality and whether or not they are conflicted about it, etc. Many people are aroused by things as fantasy, but don't really want to try it. Also, their sexual history would come into play, maybe something turned them on once before, but now after doing it a few times, it doesn't really turn them on. Complicated stuff. Fascinating though.

 

[banes27]

I guess measuring arousal would be pretty hard (sorry, bad pun). A lot would depend on the individual - how comfortable they are being watched, how long it's been since they've had sex, how they view their own sexuality and whether or not they are conflicted about it, etc. Many people are aroused by things as fantasy, but don't really want to try it. Also, their sexual history would come into play, maybe something turned them on once before, but now after doing it a few times, it doesn't really turn them on. Complicated stuff. Fascinating though.

Those are actually the usual criticisms of a lot of the studies. I mean when I look at two guys, I'm either incredibly turned off by the image itself or turned on by an image of me and my gf that the picture made me think of so in that instance, any "sign" of arousal would be in conflict with my thoughts and sexuality.

 

[iswallowloads]

Those are actually the usual criticisms of a lot of the studies. I mean when I look at two guys, I'm either incredibly turned off by the image itself or turned on by an image of me and my gf that the picture made me think of so in that instance, any "sign" of arousal would be in conflict with my thoughts and sexuality.

Same here. Pics or vids of guys together don't do anything for me. Yet, I fantasize about giving blowjobs all the time. And I give them whenever I get the chance. With women I can get a woody just standing in line at the grocery store, but don't like quickies or one nighters, I like sex while in a relationship more. Guess I'd be a bad sample

 

[banes27]

Same here. Pics or vids of guys together don't do anything for me. Yet, I fantasize about giving blowjobs all the time. And I give them whenever I get the chance. With women I can get a woody just standing in line at the grocery store, but don't like quickies or one nighters, I like sex while in a relationship more. Guess I'd be a bad sample

Well I think bad examples for one idea are generally a good example overall. Western ideas on sexuality and the study of it are only about 150 years old and a lot of the non-Western cultures in the world actually have completely different views on it. The third-gender in India (Hijra) are a set of men who perform generally female roles in society but may either be straight, gay or bi, same for just plain men. Sexuality isn't really seen as exclusive but Western influences on sexuality have caused "Hijra" to be translated into Indain English as "Homo" but it doesn't carry the connatation of "gay", merely "iffeminate male". A lot of cultures around the world actually seem to universally except homosexual acts in both males and females but the situations in which they are discussed openly or in private vary. Even the Ancient Greeks univerally accepted same sex sexual acts.

Personally I think we in the western world try to box people too much and study too much in certain things that even our views changed from what they were, sometimes for the worse. I do think though we're heading the way of a lot of cultures where sexuality is private unless it arises in conversation after which it is private again.

 

[iswallowloads]

Well I think bad examples for one idea are generally a good example overall. Western ideas on sexuality and the study of it are only about 150 years old and a lot of the non-Western cultures in the world actually have completely different views on it. The third-gender in India (Hijra) are a set of men who perform generally female roles in society but may either be straight, gay or bi, same for just plain men. Sexuality isn't really seen as exclusive but Western influences on sexuality have caused "Hijra" to be translated into Indain English as "Homo" but it doesn't carry the connatation of "gay", merely "iffeminate male". A lot of cultures around the world actually seem to universally except homosexual acts in both males and females but the situations in which they are discussed openly or in private vary. Even the Ancient Greeks univerally accepted same sex sexual acts.

Personally I think we in the western world try to box people too much and study too much in certain things that even our views changed from what they were, sometimes for the worse. I do think though we're heading the way of a lot of cultures where sexuality is private unless it arises in conversation after which it is private again.

I read somewhere that some Native American tribes had something similar to the Hijra. And my travels in Europe really opened my eyes about sexuality. The first time I got hit on by a guy was in Italy, and I was amazed at how easy and natural it was for him even though he was there with his girlfriend and it was a 'normal' bar. I never thought about guys before that, and even though I was turned on, I still thought it was taboo and fear of being found out stopped me from doing anything.

I agree, we're all about labels and categories. I think that it's mostly a fear thing. It makes people feel safe to be able classify each other. It gives a false sense of understanding, which in a backwards kind of way, helps ease their fear. While for some it's all about making themselves feel like they are normal and therefore better than someone else.

 

[banes27]

I read somewhere that some Native American tribes had something similar to the Hijra. And my travels in Europe really opened my eyes about sexuality. The first time I got hit on by a guy was in Italy, and I was amazed at how easy and natural it was for him even though he was there with his girlfriend and it was a 'normal' bar. I never thought about guys before that, and even though I was turned on, I still thought it was taboo and fear of being found out stopped me from doing anything.

I agree, we're all about labels and categories. I think that it's mostly a fear thing. It makes people feel safe to be able classify each other. It gives a false sense of understanding, which in a backwards kind of way, helps ease their fear. While for some it's all about making themselves feel like they are normal and therefore better than someone else.

The whole "normal" bar thing is a weird thing. I understand gay bars and stuff, but at the same time is the whole western world so screwed up that a guy can't hit on a guy. Tbh I think it should be taken as a compliment if a straight guy is hit on by anyone, no matter what sex or sexuality. I guess labelling is kind of relieving but at the same time it can bring up ideas of "others" vs "same". Even if you do understand a person with another label they are still an "other". When it comes to a private matter I think the labels should be dropped so the otherness of it all can just go away.

(Yeah,, the Native American ones are usually translated as "two-spirits", i.e. a male body with both man and woman spirits)

 

[iswallowloads]

The whole "normal" bar thing is a weird thing. I understand gay bars and stuff, but at the same time is the whole western world so screwed up that a guy can't hit on a guy. Tbh I think it should be taken as a compliment if a straight guy is hit on by anyone, no matter what sex or sexuality. I guess labelling is kind of relieving but at the same time it can bring up ideas of "others" vs "same". Even if you do understand a person with another label they are still an "other". When it comes to a private matter I think the labels should be dropped so the otherness of it all can just go away.

(Yeah,, the Native American ones are usually translated as "two-spirits", i.e. a male body with both man and woman spirits)

Yeah, it's pretty silly. I think it's mostly a macho thing. Men feel their own sexuality is threatened when hit on by a guy, which is kind of backwards. I think women are generally (not always) more flattered to be found attractive by the same sex.

 

[banes27]

Yeah, it's pretty silly. I think it's mostly a macho thing. Men feel their own sexuality is threatened when hit on by a guy, which is kind of backwards. I think women are generally (not always) more flattered to be found attractive by the same sex.

Does really only seem to be in those cultures though where the gender roles and sexuality are supposed to be linked, which really only seems to be the western world and Abrahamic religions. I think maybe in Italy the chances an Italian straight guy would take it in a bad way would be smaller than in Britain and a lot smaller than in the USA, but I could be generalising. I know in some places in Oceania, Africa, South America and Asia no-one really cares, they just say yes or no, which is a much better way of looking at it.

Person 1: [to person 2] Hey, want to go out/sleep with me?
Person 2: Nah, I'm just not that into you.

Person 1: [to person 3, who is of the same sex as person 2] Hey, want to go out/sleep with me?
Person 3: Sure, why not?

Person 4 [who is the same sex as person 1]: [to person 2]Hey, want to go out/sleep with me?
Person 2: Sure, why not?

Personally I see that as the best way to view it all, a case by case system of yes or no. A lot more fluid and a lot less restrictive. Labels, even simple mental one, restrict what you do and may even be a form of self-denial and a form of fear-caused boundaries which are possibly truly protective in a society where someone elses boundaries have become very agressive and outwardly negative, which is the whole problem with a lot of westerners.

DOWN WITH LABELS!!! DOWN WITH SEXUALITY!!! (bad wording, but I think my last few posts clear it up lol)

 

[iswallowloads]

Does really only seem to be in those cultures though where the gender roles and sexuality are supposed to be linked, which really only seems to be the western world and Abrahamic religions. I think maybe in Italy the chances an Italian straight guy would take it in a bad way would be smaller than in Britain and a lot smaller than in the USA, but I could be generalising. I know in some places in Oceania, Africa, South America and Asia no-one really cares, they just say yes or no, which is a much better way of looking at it.

Person 1: [to person 2] Hey, want to go out/sleep with me?
Person 2: Nah, I'm just not that into you.

Person 1: [to person 3, who is of the same sex as person 2] Hey, want to go out/sleep with me?
Person 3: Sure, why not?

Person 4 [who is the same sex as person 1]: [to person 2]Hey, want to go out/sleep with me?
Person 2: Sure, why not?

Personally I see that as the best way to view it all, a case by case system of yes or no. A lot more fluid and a lot less restrictive. Labels, even simple mental one, restrict what you do and may even be a form of self-denial and a form of fear-caused boundaries which are possibly truly protective in a society where someone elses boundaries have become very agressive and outwardly negative, which is the whole problem with a lot of westerners.

DOWN WITH LABELS!!! DOWN WITH SEXUALITY!!! (bad wording, but I think my last few posts clear it up lol)

I totally understand

Image plays a big part in it too. Western cultures are more obsessed with how they appear to others than most other areas of the world. People are afraid to be asked because it might reflect on how they're viewed (by others and themselves), and people are afraid to ask out of fear of rejection or worse.

You're right about religion being a key link, the Abraham religions are all about consequence and status.

 

[azonicamist]

bisexuality

I myself have no problem with a persons sexuality.In fact, sometimes I jokingly tell peopl tha I,m trysexual Jokes aside,I,ve experiencd sex with both women and men when the urge hits me.Ibelieve that it,s wonderful that you have the opportunity to feel free to do your thing.I just love sex and erotica with like minded people. I love the freedom to do whatever and not be labeled this or that.I, a free spirit,go and come as I please. Just trying to enjoy lie!!!!! azonicamist

 

[gt_bear]

I agree DOWN WITH LABELS! i'm just me, a God so i am told, but just me! VIVA LA SEXUAL REVOLUTION!

Damn V-Day was exhausting! With 7 lovers and a kid to think about it was one hell of a party! Damn i bought 16 dozen roses, 6 white, 6 red, 6 black, and 6 yellow for each of my lovers and kid. I also bought specially made diamond necklaces for each girl, a new tongue stud for my boyfriend, and a new mp3 player for my kid.
We had a huge dinner, i mean huge, prime rib, aspergus and bacon, fried potatoes, great wine, cherry cheese cake, candle light, a night of passion.
Fuck'n'a! And i got a new suit, black roses, a new bracelet, and a huge homemade card.

Now what did you all get?

 

[banes27]

I agree DOWN WITH LABELS! i'm just me, a God so i am told, but just me! VIVA LA SEXUAL REVOLUTION!

Damn V-Day was exhausting! With 7 lovers and a kid to think about it was one hell of a party! Damn i bought 16 dozen roses, 6 white, 6 red, 6 black, and 6 yellow for each of my lovers and kid. I also bought specially made diamond necklaces for each girl, a new tongue stud for my boyfriend, and a new mp3 player for my kid.
We had a huge dinner, i mean huge, prime rib, aspergus and bacon, fried potatoes, great wine, cherry cheese cake, candle light, a night of passion.
Fuck'n'a! And i got a new suit, black roses, a new bracelet, and a huge homemade card.

Now what did you all get?

You can get black roses? Well my life jsut got even better.

I got clothes from my gf followed by a blind-folded massage which led to a handjob followed by sex with her ontop with another 3 sessions of sex. I gave her some red wine and ferrero roche and 7 orgasms. We also just stayed in and watched movies all day

 

[iswallowloads]

I hung out with my cat. Not the kind of pussy I was hoping for, but hey, at least I didn't have to spend anything.

 

[drakes_girls69]

I hung out with my cat. Not the kind of pussy I was hoping for, but hey, at least I didn't have to spend anything.

Not to be rude or anything, but don't you have a GF iswallowloads, or are we girls going insane?

 

[iswallowloads]

I have a GF, sort of. It's turning out to be a pretty loose relationship, more of a friends with benefits. I'm not really sure if there's anything there outside of the sex anymore. It seemed for awhile like it was more, but I really have no idea. I think this is one instance where the chick is actually afraid of commitment. We were going to hang out Valentine's Day, but she had to work, then had some family shit to take care of.

How's Jessie?


P.S. You're all crazy, I'm the only sane person on the planet

 

[drakes_girls69]

Jessie is doing alright, she and her father are still not talking. Jessie has just said...
'fuck him, if he doesn't want to be in my life anymore, fine'
So she hasn't even tried to talk to him in awhile, a week i think, her mom has called a couple times tho. She even talked to Drake for a little while. I think she is starting to understand that Drake really is a sweet, loving guy and that Jessie chose him for love not just sex.
Which is really great if anyone cares to know

oh ya, P.S. To be normal is the be insane, to be insane is to be normal

 

[iswallowloads]

Jessie is doing alright, she and her father are still not talking. Jessie has just said...
'fuck him, if he doesn't want to be in my life anymore, fine'
So she hasn't even tried to talk to him in awhile, a week i think, her mom has called a couple times tho. She even talked to Drake for a little while. I think she is starting to understand that Drake really is a sweet, loving guy and that Jessie chose him for love not just sex.
Which is really great if anyone cares to know

oh ya, P.S. To be normal is the be insane, to be insane is to be normal

It's good to hear Jessie's feeling that way, she has no control over how he feels. At least her Mom is warming up, maybe her Dad will see that as a reason to do the same.

P.S. There's no such thing as normal. So I guess we're all sane after all.

 

[gt_bear]

God! If i don't die having sex it will be a miracle! For being a little sad about her dad, Jessie is wearing my ass out! I cant keep up with her and my other lovers, she craves sex all the damn time anymore, now ok i love sex, hell i a ma diagnosed sex addict, but i need a break! lol
Any comments on that?

 

[iswallowloads]

God! If i don't die having sex it will be a miracle! For being a little sad about her dad, Jessie is wearing my ass out! I cant keep up with her and my other lovers, she craves sex all the damn time anymore, now ok i love sex, hell i a ma diagnosed sex addict, but i need a break! lol
Any comments on that?

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. You better umm... ride it out.

Seriously though, she needs to feel loved and wanted and sex seems to be the way she wants you to show it. Might as well go with it.

 

[drakes_girls69]

This is Jessie, first time online wohoo! Anyway i just feel so, thrown away by my father. I came out to him first when i was 15, and he accepted it right then and there but when i introduce him to the only man i have ever loved romantically he flips!
I realize that its unconventional for a man to have 6 wives and a husband, but he loves us! A hell of a lot more than most 'normal' couples I've seen.
i mean he nearly died to save Lana and Sara! He's taken bullets, been beat down, tortured, blown up, and stabbed for those he loves!
I just don't get why my dad can't see the pure selflessness of Drake and see that his love for me and my love for him is forever and always, always and forever --to quote drake--
IDK....it just hurts

 

[iswallowloads]

This is Jessie, first time online wohoo! Anyway i just feel so, thrown away by my father. I came out to him first when i was 15, and he accepted it right then and there but when i introduce him to the only man i have ever loved romantically he flips!
I realize that its unconventional for a man to have 6 wives and a husband, but he loves us! A hell of a lot more than most 'normal' couples I've seen.
i mean he nearly died to save Lana and Sara! He's taken bullets, been beat down, tortured, blown up, and stabbed for those he loves!
I just don't get why my dad can't see the pure selflessness of Drake and see that his love for me and my love for him is forever and always, always and forever --to quote drake--
IDK....it just hurts

Welcome to the board! I wish your dad would accept the life you've chosen, and he just might eventually. Hang in there, it'll take some time.

It's ben mentioned how close you and your father were, so just remember, no matter how angry he seems, or how hard of a stance he takes, he'll never stop loving you.

 

[drakes_girls69]

Welcome to the board! I wish your dad would accept the life you've chosen, and he just might eventually. Hang in there, it'll take some time.

It's ben mentioned how close you and your father were, so just remember, no matter how angry he seems, or how hard of a stance he takes, he'll never stop loving you.

God i hope so....idk how i would take him hating me. I know he hates Drake, the tap on the jaw proved that point, but i have to hand it too Drake....he could have killed my father before the next word was said...he kept cool and just took it all...the other girls have said that they have seen him stand up against things that would kill a normal person and keep going like it was nothing....and thats made him the rock that i'm clinging to.
For going through a hell of bullets, fire, blood and death, he is just the kindest, most gentile , and sweetest man i have ever met in my life. I could never explain to him just how much it means to me that he says such things as 'morning my light in the dark' or 'how you feeling jolie' or 'the sun would grow cold before even a pinch of my love would fade for you'
God now i'm crying lol sorry i'm venting on this thing lol

 

[iswallowloads]

God i hope so....idk how i would take him hating me. I know he hates Drake, the tap on the jaw proved that point, but i have to hand it too Drake....he could have killed my father before the next word was said...he kept cool and just took it all...the other girls have said that they have seen him stand up against things that would kill a normal person and keep going like it was nothing....and thats made him the rock that i'm clinging to.
For going through a hell of bullets, fire, blood and death, he is just the kindest, most gentile , and sweetest man i have ever met in my life. I could never explain to him just how much it means to me that he says such things as 'morning my light in the dark' or 'how you feeling jolie' or 'the sun would grow cold before even a pinch of my love would fade for you'
God now i'm crying lol sorry i'm venting on this thing lol

Vent away. Nothing wrong with that.

He might not even hate Drake. Sure, he was pissed enough to take a swing at him, but his love for you, will lead him to eventually at least accept the situation. Maybe your mom's been talking some sense into him. Women have a way of making their men understand things.

 

[drakes_girls69]

Vent away. Nothing wrong with that.

He might not even hate Drake. Sure, he was pissed enough to take a swing at him, but his love for you, will lead him to eventually at least accept the situation. Maybe your mom's been talking some sense into him. Women have a way of making their men understand things.

Yeah my mom seems to understand it...she doesn't like it all that much but she understand it. She just thinks that he is cheating on all of us with the others and that he should be able to settle down with just one.

I doubt he could lol He loves us all to much to let any one of us go, and we love him to much to let go either. I mean we don't really know how long he has to live in the first place...he is already basically bound to our homes, he walks with a cane now and pops pain meds like candy.

He many only be 20, but all the doctors say that he has the body of a 65 year old living through both WW1 and WW2

My mom knows that now of course, i hope that helps her convince my dad. I'd hate for my dad to never speak or see Drake till the ritual funeral he will have

Plus what if i get pregnant? Which is a possibility since i hate condoms and birth control makes me into a bitch somehow

i doubt he'd stay away after that