Bush's Oily past

Cync

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Just heard on the news this evening that there are preliminary forecasts of gas prices topping $3.00/gallon by the summer months.

We've got a pretty good slice of the population out there - including the hard line Republican crowd (and no, I'm not just talking about you Chey) - so please tell me, how can Bush's approval numbers remain so high when he clearly represents anything BUT the average joe!

And before anyone goes about bashing me as a liberal leftist or whatever - I was right there with the Republicans when it came to impeaching Clinton, and for that matter I think the democrats should be ashamed of themselves for putting politics ahead of the law (Okay, I'm a bit naive there), but given all thats happened these past 3-something months I'm starting to believe rewriting the constitution to allow old Bill run for term #3 might not be such a bad idea after all.

Compassionate Conservative? Bah! Compassionate to WHO???
 
I completely agree with you Lav, but how do you explain that 65% of the population thinks Curious George is just a swell guy???
 
How easily we toss around words like fascist. Makes one think you might be a little out on the fringe politically speaking, eh lavvy?

:)

(I was gonna say you had big balls for using that word, but that wouldn't be politically correct...)
 
In the absence of domestic production, the price gets set by OPEC and by supply and demand, unless you demand a California-like solution via popular proposition.

I submit, the average joe is taking a beating now, because the people he trusted to look out for him are those who have been arguing for this price level and working towards this price level.

To assume that Bush can undo or control this immediatley is ludicrous.

Born and raised Democratic in a Democratic home in a Democratic city, in a Democratic county.
 
Gas shot up over 2$ last year. As much as you want to pin everything on bush as if the president is the wizard of oz, it just doesn't float. One of the problems is refining capability. Different states require different formulas of Gasoline. I think there are over 60 in all. At least the Bush administration is looking at solutions. Funny how the liberals bitch about the price of gas, yet scream like pigs when you mention drilling on 2000 acres in Alaska.
 
WriterDom said:
At least the Bush administration is looking at solutions.

Destroying the environment is not a solution to anything. Bush talks about "long-term solutions" but all he cares about is oil company profits. Every rational, intelligent person in the world agrees that there's a finite amount of oil left in this planet. Trying to suck a few extra drops out here and there at the expense of the environment - and for the benefit of big oil companies - is not a long-term solution. It is simply Bush paying back those who donated enough money to almost get him elected. Long-term solutions involve conservation and alternate fuels, both of which Bush and Cheney are staunchly against because the people they truly work for (I'll give you a hint, it's not the voters) might make less profit if a real solution was developed.

Republicans need to stop making excuses for Bush's bad policy and start looking at what's best for this country in the long run. Regardless of your party, it's time to stand up for what's right, not just what's right-wing.

But then again, I don't have a nationally syndicated radio show, so I don't expect many Republicans care what I think. ;)
 
hehe I am from Texas

and furthermore i am from Old George's hometown of Midland. I always thought how funny it was when Bush was preaching about how he was a uniter and not a divider. How he would be bipartisan and all that jazz. Telling everyone to look at Texas and see how well he did with bipartisanship there. No shit bipartisanship is easy in Texas. The difference between Democrats and Republicans in Texas is almost nil. A Democrat in Texas would be a a moderate or slightly left leaning Republican in most other states. When I first read the title i thought this was gonna be about some of the shady oil deals in Bush's past. The big one i think is out in the persian gulf somewhere. There are all these offshore oil derrics drilling for oil and not finding a drop. Bush owned part of the company and helped negotiate the deal in someway. Well when he sold out out of the company he recived huge profits eventhough the oil derricks out there have not produced anything. My dad was a geologist back in Texas before the oil business collapsed. I still have all of his old notes, records and surveys back in the garage somewhere. I know he did some work for some of Bush's companies and I bet there are some rather interesting things in all those old notebooks.
 
Laurel said:
WriterDom said:
At least the Bush administration is looking at solutions.

Destroying the environment is not a solution to anything. Bush talks about "long-term solutions" but all he cares about is oil company profits. Every rational, intelligent person in the world agrees that there's a finite amount of oil left in this planet. Trying to suck a few extra drops out here and there at the expense of the environment - and for the benefit of big oil companies - is not a long-term solution. It is simply Bush paying back those who donated enough money to almost get him elected. Long-term solutions involve conservation and alternate fuels, both of which Bush and Cheney are staunchly against because the people they truly work for (I'll give you a hint, it's not the voters) might make less profit if a real solution was developed.

Republicans need to stop making excuses for Bush's bad policy and start looking at what's best for this country in the long run. Regardless of your party, it's time to stand up for what's right, not just what's right-wing.

But then again, I don't have a nationally syndicated radio show, so I don't expect many Republicans care what I think. ;)

We've seen your great California experiment. At least you can use candles and charcoal grills this summer. When was the last time California built a power plant? 12 yrs ago? I guess nuclear power is out of the question also since you only have 2 plants. How many SUV's are humming down the highway with Gore/Leeebrrrrman stickers on the back bumper getting 12 mpg? Do you think pushing the oil and automoble industry into an unprofitable way of doing business is the answer? There will be a solution but it will come with market pressure, not by idealistic liberals in a quest to stop "evil" profits.

Are we better off energy-wise after 8 years of Clinton? I know he tapped the oil reserve a few weeks before the election and sold some oil to some poor dude in harlem that bought the rights for a few million gallons off of ebay or somewhere, but that's about all I remember except the leaking of secrets to China.
 
Laurel said:

But then again, I don't have a nationally syndicated radio show, so I don't expect many Republicans care what I think. ;)

Laurel, whenever you bring this up mindless Republican zombie Limbaugh follower SHIT from now on, I will embroider a little scenario for you. It begins with you and Rush Limbaugh. You're both naked. You are on all fours, he is behind you on his knees. Fill in the blanks.

:)
 
WriterDom said:
Gas shot up over 2$ last year. As much as you want to pin everything on bush as if the president is the wizard of oz, it just doesn't float. One of the problems is refining capability. Different states require different formulas of Gasoline. I think there are over 60 in all. At least the Bush administration is looking at solutions. Funny how the liberals bitch about the price of gas, yet scream like pigs when you mention drilling on 2000 acres in Alaska.

Remind me again WriterDom, how cutting a third the funding used to research alternative fuels somehow fits into Bush's 'solutions'?

Bush made nearly a million last year, Cheney over 36 million - nearly all from big oil - perhaps you're right in pointing out my 'unfair' attitude concerning the FACT that this administration might not represent the best intrest of the average family.
 
Cync said:
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Bush made nearly a million last year, Cheney over 36 million - nearly all from big oil - perhaps you're right in pointing out my 'unfair' attitude concerning the FACT that this administration might not represent the best intrest of the average family. [/B]

I think it's refreshing to have leaders knowledgeable in drilling something other than interns.
 
WriterDom said:
Cync said:
[B
Bush made nearly a million last year, Cheney over 36 million - nearly all from big oil - perhaps you're right in pointing out my 'unfair' attitude concerning the FACT that this administration might not represent the best intrest of the average family.

I think it's refreshing to have leaders knowledgeable in drilling something other than interns. [/B]

"Get Over It."
 
posted by WriterDom:

As much as you want to pin everything on bush as if the president is the wizard of oz, it just doesn't float.


Hummmm, sound like this could have been posted by a Clinton supporter anytime durring his administration. I take it that kind of attack on Clinton was Ok, but isn't for GW?


Comshaw
 
Comshaw said:
posted by WriterDom:

As much as you want to pin everything on bush as if the president is the wizard of oz, it just doesn't float.


Hummmm, sound like this could have been posted by a Clinton supporter anytime durring his administration. I take it that kind of attack on Clinton was Ok, but isn't for GW?


Comshaw

I don't remember Clinton a lot other than signing 7 of the 10 items of the contract with America and raising taxes. I certainly don't remember conservatives wishing bad on the country. He was a great president for republicans. We went from a minority of governors to a majority. We took over the house for the first time in 40 years and gained control of the senate. And to top it off, he left the keys in the White House lock. Couldn't ask for more than that.
 
WriterDom said:
I think it's refreshing to have leaders knowledgeable in drilling something other than interns.

Clinton was morally corrupt; nobody disputes that. But how does that relate to the current administrations detachment from the needs of the average family?
 
Blah blah blah

:p
 
Re: Blah blah blah

Siren said:
So, regardless of who is to blame...I am turning to My President...and asking him the tough question....this falls under your watch....what are YOU going to do about it?

...And Ari Fliecher, White House PR man, has clearly given the answer to your question - 'Nothing'.

Thanks for playing.
 
Destroying the environment seems to be a knee-jerk response from the land of urban sprawl.

Government investment will not come up with the alternative cure for energy. It is the lure of becoming richer then Alfred Nobel that will spur that development as long as we do not institute some asinine liberal policy that takes the wealth of such individuals or companies.

When Gray Davis gets on national television, as he did yesterday, and blasts the federal government as being the problem because they will not send the money to fix the problem, you all loose the sympathy of the rest of the country. Someone has to take the blame, but it seems you insist it must be a republican office-holder, which logic escapes even my feeble brain completely.
 
Andra_Jenny said:
Destroying the environment seems to be a knee-jerk response from the land of urban sprawl.

Government investment will not come up with the alternative cure for energy. It is the lure of becoming richer then Alfred Nobel that will spur that development as long as we do not institute some asinine liberal policy that takes the wealth of such individuals or companies.

When Gray Davis gets on national television, as he did yesterday, and blasts the federal government as being the problem because they will not send the money to fix the problem, you all loose the sympathy of the rest of the country. Someone has to take the blame, but it seems you insist it must be a republican office-holder, which logic escapes even my feeble brain completely.

It's a typical liberal response. Blame business for your problems, and look for Government for solutions. Outside of California, Oregon, and Washington there are very few problems. I wonder if those are liberal or conservative states?
 
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