Bye, bye Paris Accords.

[oggbashan]

We are...

No, you're not:

https://www.nrdc.org/experts/han-chen/implementing-paris-agreement-first-year-progress-report

 

[SpeareChucker]

No, you're not:

https://www.nrdc.org/experts/han-chen/implementing-paris-agreement-first-year-progress-report

Inconclusive blog.

 

[coati]

Why is it that of the signers of the Paris accords,
we're the only ones that made any actual progress?

Lots of progress during the past year on easing restrictions on power production from coal.

Yeah, things are headed in the "right" direction in America.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Lots of progress during the past year on easing restrictions on power production from coal.

Yeah, things are headed in the "right" direction in America.

There are places where it was necessary even as natural gas is beginning to
become a dominant source of energy and despite your effort to impeach our progress,
both links provided say that we are significantly reducing CO2 emissions.

Nw go back to my comment about how many of y'all on the Left
hate Trump more than you love the truth (and let's throw in Science)
so, in effect you become, what's that favored word? oh year, deniers...

 

[coati]

There are places where it was necessary even as natural gas is beginning to
become a dominant source of energy and despite your effort to impeach our progress,
both links provided say that we are significantly reducing CO2 emissions.

Nw go back to my comment about how many of y'all on the Left
hate Trump more than you love the truth (and let's throw in Science)
so, in effect you become, what's that favored word? oh year, deniers...

Good Freudian slip.

I'm not a year denier. I know what Trump has done over the past year regarding air quality standards and coal ash disposal. I know that it takes years for the GHG emissions data to reflect these regressive policies.

I know that eventually truth will be told about his policies, no matter how much dancing is done by apologists like you.

 

[SpeareChucker]

It's not a Freudian slip, it was simply a typo that got past spellcheck.

Oh, we see now.
Like the Glow Ball Warming that never occurred was said to be hiding int the oceans,
now, letting a few plant provide people with heat in the winter,
is going to devastate the environment in x number of years...


Do you have any idea as to how much coal China is burning?

 

[zipman]

It's not a Freudian slip, it was simply a typo that got past spellcheck.

Oh, we see now.
Like the Glow Ball Warming that never occurred was said to be hiding int the oceans,
now, letting a few plant provide people with heat in the winter,
is going to devastate the environment in x number of years...


Do you have any idea as to how much coal China is burning?

China is pushing and leading in solar power you dumbass.

You morons would rather believe a handful of scientists bought and paid for by big oil rather than the overwhelming majority who realize global warming is real.

You prefer "beliefs over science."

 

[BotanyBoy]

China is pushing and leading in solar power you dumbass.

Deflection......gotta protect the Muslim exterminating good comrades in the CCP.

They are the MOST progressive after all!!

You prefer "beliefs over science."

Tell us more about how there are 57,083 genders....

 

[jomar]

We are...

How so?

ETA: Never mind. I read your posts. Trump, truth and science don’t belong in the same sentence so by default you’re wrong.

 

[coati]

Do you have any idea as to how much coal China is burning?

Whatabout mentality. The sign of a great leader.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Trump, truth and science don’t belong in the same sentence so by default you’re wrong.

More deflection....you love science, tell us more about how gender is just a social construct!!!

Whatabout mentality. The sign of a great leader.

More deflection, gotta protect your precious comrades in the muslim exterminating CCP.

Coati....why do you hate the USA so much???

 

[suurfer]

China is pushing and leading in solar power you dumbass.

You morons would rather believe a handful of scientists bought and paid for by big oil rather than the overwhelming majority who realize global warming is real.

You prefer "beliefs over science."

I think that Trysail is the only Global warming denier on the board.

But how do you tackle it?

From what I read, China and India are responsible for the biggest emissions over the last decades. In saying that, it's only because of their rapid industrialization that their people moved from below subsistence, to semi-decent living.
-- So if They implement measures, their population will be pushed back to below subsistence.

People from developed countries can afford the drop in quality of living, but is it fair? Since they're lower polluters than third world countries.

 

[HisArpy]

China is pushing and leading in solar power you dumbass.

You morons would rather believe a handful of scientists bought and paid for by big oil rather than the overwhelming majority who realize global warming is real.

You prefer "beliefs over science."

Lol.

"Leading in solar" doesn't mean they aren't the world's #1 polluter. Nor does it mean that they're reducing their emissions.

 

[Rightguide]

Maybe because unlike the current Administration and right wing climate change and science deniers, the majority of Americans have actually addressed causes of climate change. That’s why.

Maybe you're just nuts as usual too.

 

[HisArpy]

I think that Trysail is the only Global warming denier on the board.

But how do you tackle it?

From what I read, China and India are responsible for the biggest emissions over the last decades. In saying that, it's only because of their rapid industrialization that their people moved from below subsistence, to semi-decent living.
-- So if They implement measures, their population will be pushed back to below subsistence.

People from developed countries can afford the drop in quality of living, but is it fair? Since they're lower polluters than third world countries.

Until the world develops a new energy source, and gets it into general distribution, heavy industrialized nations will continue to pollute. Paying money to various governments won't change that because governments don't drive technology. One need only remember the Solyndra debacle to realize that.

Fair? What's fair got to do with anything?

 

[coati]

But how do you tackle it?

Are you a terminally equivocating wimp?

You tackle it by leading, not following. You tackle it by setting a good example, not a cynical example. You tackle it by joining with others who are setting a good example.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Are you a terminally equivocating wimp?

You tackle it by leading, not following. You tackle it by setting a good example, not a cynical example. You tackle it by joining with others who are setting a good example.

More bullshit without any substance.

What is a "good example".....what is "leading".

The communist god state taking everyones shit and redistributing it for more equitable outcomes for all no doubt.

 

[Rightguide]

China is pushing and leading in solar power you dumbass.

You morons would rather believe a handful of scientists bought and paid for by big oil rather than the overwhelming majority who realize global warming is real.

You prefer "beliefs over science."

DNC folklore isn't science.

 

[HisArpy]

Are you a terminally equivocating wimp?

You tackle it by leading, not following. You tackle it by setting a good example, not a cynical example. You tackle it by joining with others who are setting a good example.

Why do we have to "join them"? Why don't they join US? Why isn't there a world treaty where the other nations on the planet pay the US their money to show us the way to solving "global warming"?

We are in fact leading the way in reducing emissions and most of the nations in the Paris Accords aren't doing anything.

Pity you can't see any of that.

 

[coati]

Until the world develops a new energy source, and gets it into general distribution, heavy industrialized nations will continue to pollute.

There is a huge opportunity right now to replace a significant amount of polluting energy with non-polluting energy and with energy conservation. Government can play a big role by putting incentives in place to do just that, as opposed to putting incentives in place to pollute.

Right now, America is heading in the wrong direction with regard to incentives.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Right now, America is heading in the wrong direction with regard to incentives.

LOL.....not giving all our shit to 3rd world shitholes is the wrong direction to Coati.

Bet he hasn't sent much of his own money to 3rd world shit holes for green initiatives.

Like most leftist I'm sure THAT doesn't matter, it's only when the government is punishing people Coati doesn't like that the USA is heading in the right direction.

Most of all.....freedom and liberty BAD!!! The wrong directioN!!!

Coati is as patriotic as Rob and CommieSlinger64

 

[jomar]

More deflection....you love science, tell us more about how gender is just a social construct!!!

Sure, more ascription!

 

[oggbashan]

Some of the US's reduction in emissions is caused by a decline in traditional heavy industries like mining and steel making - sometimes outsourced to other countries and thus fucking over Trump's rust belt supporters.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Sure, more ascription!

Oh well I'm glad you're on board with us Trumpster Nazi scum (and scientist) who don't think there are 68,258 genders and find the notion not only demonstrably false but crazy.

Glad you're on team Trump.

 

[HisArpy]

There is a huge opportunity right now to replace a significant amount of polluting energy with non-polluting energy and with energy conservation. Government can play a big role by putting incentives in place to do just that, as opposed to putting incentives in place to pollute.

Right now, America is heading in the wrong direction with regard to incentives.

There is currently no viable alternative energy source other than fossil fuels.

Solar cells require heavy manufacturing which requires energy produced by fossil fuels and that creates MORE POLLUTION than the resulting solar installation eliminates. Then you have toxic waste disposal problems when the cells finally wear out in 20 years or so.

Nuclear energy produces spent nuclear fuel which cannot be disposed of except by burying it inside a mountain in Nevada. Adding to that disposal site doesn't reduce pollution, it only hides it from public view.

Wind power damages the environment in ways other than by contributing to atmospheric particulates. Plus there's that pollution created by the manufacturing of the generators.

Energy conservation is a fancy term for "shutting off your power". Yeah, try and sell that to everyone as something that advances society while raising the standard of living.