Thesunmaid
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well if we banned people for swearing I would have been banned long before I ever became a mod. I have a vocabulary that would sometimes make a sailor blush at times.
Can a mod call me a Cunt ?
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KeithD
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When I first came on to Literotica, there were a few moderators who were this nasty and took advantage of not being able to be put on ignore. One was caught using an alt to back herself up in attacks on other posters. She eventually disappeared, but I don't know if the Web site ditched her or not.
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If we banned people for calling other people a name, there wouldnt be anyone left on the site. You have any idea how many PMs a girl gets on here that starts with a derogatory comment? i get at least 4-5 minimum a night where someone starts out saying "hi whore, hi slut, hi cunt... ect..". Having never talked to these people before. i dont kick or ban them, sometimes i will call them rude, more often i just ignore them and close the PM.
I have never banned anyone for saying a swear word or calling another person a name - UNLESS - it happens repeatedly and they fail to stop doing so when asked. And even then it is usually warning, kick, warning, temp ban... and so on.
Using foul language on a sex site is not prohibited. Using it to repeatedly attack/harass someone is.
Now if you are being obnoxious, a troll, combatative, hostile, belligerent, provocative and disruptive - you will probably get called a name by someone, mod or not. We tend to refrain from doing so, but we are human and it does happen. Now if someone calls you a name and it ends there. No worries. But once it starts to get into a disruptive and hostile exchange and the people fail to stop after a warning to do so - then stronger action will be used.
Minor disagreements happen in the chats all the time - provided they are non-disruptive or harassing in nature - usually a simple "knock it off" is sufficient action by a moderator. Sometimes the language used might be more colorful but that is the course at least that i tend to take on the matter.
Also, in the past there have been some moderators who abused their positions legitimately. Those moderators have been removed from their positions and a few have even been removed from the chat. If a moderator is caught violating rules, harassing users and so on - then they will be subject to a review and possible other action. Despite rumors to the contrary - we are not a club of abusive power hungry assholes hell bent on making chat miserable for everyone - we do have oversite and our own code of conduct.
And i WILL take action against another moderator should they be engaging in what i consider a rules violation and i expect them to do the same with me.
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And i theorize based on your anti-moderator stance, ease of chat/forum usage and yet having a very new account - i suspect this isnt your first negative encounter with a moderator.
Clitlicker662
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They can only call you a cunt if you have been “verified“ as a cunt. Have you completed all the appropriate forms, and have them notarized?
lovecraft68
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The site has the leftist approach to free speech, as in anything they don't like is not free speech and anything their fawning bootlicks say is fine, regardless of what it is.
The mods are appointed by whether or not they're toadies or friends with the owner, they're an extension of the immature, unprofessional, childish way the site is run as a whole.
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I completely disagree with the above post. For me, the site is well run, reasonable, and well moderated. If it were not so, I would not still be here. The boundaries set by the site owners make very good sense to me. I have yet to encounter an unfair or unreasonable moderator. And Literotica is still free, a point which I think escapes its critics.
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Well, no, I don't agree with a moderator doing this. The very term of the position--moderator--dictates that you should rise above being belligerent in your position or just not be in that position. Site moderators should be moderating, not combating, I think. So, I reject that.
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Really? Cause i am pretty sure i have heard police officers swear... lawyers swear.. judges swear.. soldiers swear..
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None of those is a customer service business. There is an example here of a moderator doing it really well for years--Lyn. Perhaps you should get off the minor power trip and make note how it's done with professional businesses.
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Lyn is an amazing example of how to moderate well.
None of these examples are similar to being a mod here at Lit, though. While I do prefer to moderate with more of a customer service approach, forum members are not my customers. Nor are any of the mods employees of Lit. We are all volunteers. It’s much more like being a moderator on a social media page. Facebook moderators don’t represent Facebook, for instance. They represent the specific group for which they moderate. All of that said, I absolutely detest moderator power trips and have certainly seen examples of behavior I would never endorse or support.
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This isn't your Literotica. A designated moderator is a functionary of the owners of the Web site, and this most certainly is a customer service Web site, and it has responsibilities to its users. So, a designated moderator does too. Discussion board users most certainly are customers of the site's moderators. When a moderator can't be moderate and starts being combative, they have lost their control and their function. This is a commercial business. The customer doesn't always have to be right, but the functionaries of the business lose their professionalism and control if they don't maintain greater decorum then unruly customers do.
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Why is this thread here when this area of the forums is only meant to be for tech support posts, and it states: "Bug reports and other site tech issues. All off-topic threads will be moved or deleted."
Because this thread is clearly not about technical support, and it contains two posts of concern where there are two private messages without consent of the other parties, it should be erased (or at least moved to the chat support section), then the poster should be reported for posting those.
As for the chatter who started this, they were banned in the chat rooms, so they have this new name to antagonize moderators there, and I was in the lobby when this took place, they were asked to stop, yet continued to harass the moderator, but they conveniently left that text out of their posts here, and at no point did the moderator insult them or any other chatter, so the whole point of this thread is to continue that harassment against moderators in the forums.
Moderators are not paid, they are volunteers, they receive no money or any compensation, it's a tough position, yet they ask for no sympathy because they accept the responsibility, and it's tiresome to see these threads show up here with no context, inaccurate information, or complaints by chatters who were removed to protect other chatters and the site, plus, there is a process to contest bans, and whining to everyone here is not part of it.
Because this thread is clearly not about technical support, and it contains two posts of concern where there are two private messages without consent of the other parties, it should be erased (or at least moved to the chat support section), then the poster should be reported for posting those.
As for the chatter who started this, they were banned in the chat rooms, so they have this new name to antagonize moderators there, and I was in the lobby when this took place, they were asked to stop, yet continued to harass the moderator, but they conveniently left that text out of their posts here, and at no point did the moderator insult them or any other chatter, so the whole point of this thread is to continue that harassment against moderators in the forums.
Moderators are not paid, they are volunteers, they receive no money or any compensation, it's a tough position, yet they ask for no sympathy because they accept the responsibility, and it's tiresome to see these threads show up here with no context, inaccurate information, or complaints by chatters who were removed to protect other chatters and the site, plus, there is a process to contest bans, and whining to everyone here is not part of it.
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My bottom line to the question asked, context not needed, on whether a moderator should be calling a poster a cunt is no, not really, because that indicates a loss of control and a loss of the "moderator" function.
As far as where the question should have been posted, I don't think that it should be a question of choking off all response to activity here, which seems to be where this now has gone, but of where to post it. So, where should it have been posted?
Not being paid as a moderator on a commercial site isn't really justification to use position to be abusive. When a user gets abusive their abuse can (and probably should) just be erased. To have the power to do so without recourse, though, includes responsibility not to be abusive yourself. Which folds back on the question of whether a moderator here is justified in being abusive. No, I think.
As far as where the question should have been posted, I don't think that it should be a question of choking off all response to activity here, which seems to be where this now has gone, but of where to post it. So, where should it have been posted?
Not being paid as a moderator on a commercial site isn't really justification to use position to be abusive. When a user gets abusive their abuse can (and probably should) just be erased. To have the power to do so without recourse, though, includes responsibility not to be abusive yourself. Which folds back on the question of whether a moderator here is justified in being abusive. No, I think.
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@SaraControls Have you reported the thread? If you think it should be moved, you should report it. That’s the protocol here in the forum. I’m sure you all would prefer this to be in the Lit Chat Support Forum so it can just be archived and not be available for people to read. And yes, I’ve read the supposed rationale behind archiving threads, but it is also quite obvious that the continual archiving of threads minimizes the exposure to just how many times the same exact thread gets posted in the chat support forum. I’m sure you can see that Manu hasn’t deleted threads or comments in this forum that are critical of him or the site. That behavior just doesn’t happen anywhere else on the site. 
Agreed 100%
Agreed 100%
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The member is referring to THIS thread.
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Yes, I’m aware. If they think it should be moved, they should report it.
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I am not a moderator of the site, but when you enter this area of the boards, it clearly says, "all off-topic threads will be moved or deleted", so my question was since this thread is clearly off topic, (it is not a technical support problem), and it contains private conversations without consent, and the forum moderators have seen it many times, why have they not reported it, and why has it not been moved?
As for the poster's question of can moderators call chatters names in chat rooms, it's a senseless question because the moderator in this case did not insult the chatter, and the moderator did not call them that name, so if anyone here has actual proof in the form of screenshots where that has happened, please feel free to private message a chat moderator with that information, but so far, all we have seen is hypothetical scenarios based upon out of context reports from those chatters who refused to follow the rules of the site when they were in chat.
I understand the forums' moderators have issues with the way the threads are handled for the chat support area here, (even though it has been explained numerous times why they are archived), so if you honestly feel it's a problem, why don't you report that to the site's owners instead of criticizing chat moderators in those threads, or better yet, don't look at the chat support section- that way, it won't annoy you so much.
And if chatters really feel moderators in chat are on power trips, feel free to report that with proof, but again, there are many steps leading up to bans, (unless it's an instant ban topic outlined in the terms of service), and each ban is reviewed, so while no system is perfect, unfair bans are rare, and the idea that moderators are simply banning without cause all the time is a false narrative, same as the idea that they insult chatters for fun- it's simply not reality.
As for the poster's question of can moderators call chatters names in chat rooms, it's a senseless question because the moderator in this case did not insult the chatter, and the moderator did not call them that name, so if anyone here has actual proof in the form of screenshots where that has happened, please feel free to private message a chat moderator with that information, but so far, all we have seen is hypothetical scenarios based upon out of context reports from those chatters who refused to follow the rules of the site when they were in chat.
I understand the forums' moderators have issues with the way the threads are handled for the chat support area here, (even though it has been explained numerous times why they are archived), so if you honestly feel it's a problem, why don't you report that to the site's owners instead of criticizing chat moderators in those threads, or better yet, don't look at the chat support section- that way, it won't annoy you so much.
And if chatters really feel moderators in chat are on power trips, feel free to report that with proof, but again, there are many steps leading up to bans, (unless it's an instant ban topic outlined in the terms of service), and each ban is reviewed, so while no system is perfect, unfair bans are rare, and the idea that moderators are simply banning without cause all the time is a false narrative, same as the idea that they insult chatters for fun- it's simply not reality.
SaraControls
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I'll try to use less "werdz" and smaller ones for you next time, sorry to confuse you here.
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