Canada's Boycott of USA: full steam ahead

[KimAwakened]

The reality is that without foreign competition, domestic prices go DOWN as producers profits rise. Wages rise as a result too.

The unseen/not discussed part is that without foreign market financial manipulation (high foreign tariffs), domestic goods get better because they don't have to have a reduced price point to equal the lower foreign goods prices. Producers don't have to cut manufacturing costs to price under market value, so that after the tariffs are added onto their product it costs the same as the domestically manufactured ones.

Nonsense, without foreign competition domestic manufacturers can get away with selling over-priced, inferior quality crap.

I find it hard to work out how such a simple-to-understand point is fuckupable by anyone except those in denial of basic truths.

 

[HisArpy]

Nonsense, without foreign competition domestic manufacturers can get away with selling over-priced, inferior quality crap.

I find it hard to work out how such a simple-to-understand point is fuckupable by anyone except those in denial of basic truths.

On the surface this appears true. HOWEVER, once you get below the surface you begin to realize how false your narrative is.

It doesn't take a degree in economics to understand that if you're in business you have to make a product consumers want to buy at a price they're willing to pay. If the import competition sells for less than domestic producers can, domestic producers have to reduce costs. Reductions which results in that "inferior product" you mentioned because the product isn't as robust in quality/construction.

HOWEVER, if you don't have to compete against cheaper imports, that dynamic changes. Tariffs raise the price on imports to a point where competition is equal/level playing field. That means that manufacturers don't have to cut quality in order to make a price point.

YOUR belief that manufacturers will continue to cut quality (probably because you believe they'll do it just to generate greater profits) is YOUR belief and it's not borne out in reality.

On the non-domestic front; if US producers don't have to cut production costs to compete against foreign domestic products overseas because of high tariffs from foreign nations on imports from the US, then they can produce goods that are equal in value to foreign domestic products in the foreign markets. Which equates to more US sales in those foreign markets.

Right now foreign nations are imposing high tariffs on US goods so they can protect their domestic manufacturers. Yet, when Trump says that he's just going to EQUAL their tariffs unless these foreign nations lower them for US goods, everyone screams that it's unfair and that Trump doesn't understand economics.

Yet, an equal and level playing field isn't unfair and the economics for everyone will be supported and strengthened on it.

So, on the surface your narrative seems to check out as long as you only tread on the surface. Once you get deeper into how it all works, you being to realize that the surface narrative is false.

 

[KimAwakened]

Sorry pal, it's just true. End of.

Yours is an argument based on over-complication and wishful thinking in the President Putinspoodle cause.

 

[73Seahawks]

Depends , most midwestern run Canadian crude. Most of the southern ones run sweet crude. For export. You're just too stupid to understand the that Canadian crude is cheaper to buy and make US fuels,than to run US crude for domestic supply. Since the Oil companies make more profit exporting domestic oils and refined products and refining imported Canadian crude that is sold at 10% below market price, as defined in the USMCA trade deal Trump signed in 2018.... But keep fucking around and you might find out.Seems like Trump's finally starting to understand that he's fucking up his own deal

Think about what you just wrote....think hard....

lol, go up and read what you wrote above....think hard on it. Which makes more money for a corporation, buying cheaper crude oil than you can produce yourself, while selling off the better more expensive crude to other markets who pay high a higher premium....

Guess this means no more Hallmark movies and shows being filmed in Canada?

 

[ll74]

Guess this means no more Hallmark movies and shows being filmed in Canada?

Big hit to sci-fi shows

 

[Holy_Seduction]

Canada’s political parties have neither the vigor nor the Integrity to follow through on this.

In fact, Canada’s regime plays no more a role in defining its society than regimes globally.

Were they sincere in their convictions, Canada’s parties would mount direct challenges to Capitalist, neoliberal policies that frame its society in favor of the very rich the corporatocracy and endless wars.

These parties and governments exist as catering services to the vested interests controlling them.

 

[MajorRewrite]

Not my fault you're an imbecile.

https://www.epi.org/publication/tariffs-everything-you-need-to-know-but-were-afraid-to-ask/

That article doesn’t support your argument.

Tariffs make prices go up, not down.

In the case of tariffs, these adjustments essentially lead to U.S. households paying higher prices. Importers who pay the tax initially will typically raise prices to pass this additional cost along to consumers, known as “price pass-through.” The precise degree of pass-through will differ by good and sector: It is driven largely by factors such as the degree of a company’s market power and consumer sensitivity to price changes. But substantial researchconvincingly demonstrates that it is U.S. households who ultimately pay for tariffs.

“Not my fault” that you can’t understand articles you share.

If you keep this up, you might become more famous for “tariffs make prices go down” than you are for “carbon water”!

 

[HisArpy]

Sorry pal, it's just true. End of.

Yours is an argument based on over-complication and wishful thinking in the President Putinspoodle cause.

No one is forcing you to NOT drink the kool aid. If you enjoy that swill, just keep swallowing.

OTOH, there are those who are either on the fence or have realized how much they've been lied to. What I posted will support their awaking from the progressive matrix.

 

[PersonalFavors]

That we don't put export taxes on crude oil. 60% comes from Canada...not to mention Trump made us enemies,from friends you dumbfuck. *chuckles*

You seem frustrated.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

You seem frustrated.

Really? Well you're not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

 

[PersonalFavors]

Fuzzy1975 said:


That we don't put export taxes on crude oil. 60% comes from Canada...not to mention Trump made us enemies,from friends you dumbfuck. *chuckles*

What did this even mean? I get the [*chuckles*] nervous tick. Can't make out the words as put. Is Kamala there?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Fuzzy1975 said:


That we don't put export taxes on crude oil. 60% comes from Canada...not to mention Trump made us enemies,from friends you dumbfuck. *chuckles*

What did this even mean? I get the [*chuckles*] nervous tick. Can't make out the words as put. Is Kamala there?

Weird, you blew the quote function. Rattled? Triggered?

PS it's not my fault you can't understand, maybe go ask your old school teachers. I'd start with your history one first. *chuckles*

 

[Lazaran]

It's not about replacing the crude,it's about retrofitting the refineries to American sweet crude. Not cheap and will take years.

The rest of your post is waste to read,hell you can't even get the first point right.

Derpy’s having ANOTHER bad day…

Poor Derpy…

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Derpy’s having ANOTHER bad day…

Poor Derpy…

When's derpy ever had a good day? He must be a masochist.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

What I posted will support their awaking from the progressive matrix.

It'll do what now???

 

[Lazaran]

If you keep this up, you might become more famous for “tariffs make prices go down” than you are for “carbon water”!

Post. Of. The. Year. (so far).

 

[Politruk]

No one is forcing you to NOT drink the kool aid. If you enjoy that swill, just keep swallowing.

It is the Republicans, not the Democrats, who are peddling Kool-Aid.*

* Actually, the Jonestown mass suicide involved a cheap knockoff called Flavor-Aid.

 

[Holy_Seduction]

‘It is the Republicans, not the Democrats…’

‘…capitalism sets in motion the masses of the crazed petit bourgeoisie and the bands of declassed and demoralized lumpenproletariat—all the countless human beings whom finance capital itself has brought to desperation and frenzy.’

 

[Politruk]

‘…capitalism sets in motion the masses of the crazed petit bourgeoisie and the bands of declassed and demoralized lumpenproletariat—all the countless human beings whom finance capital itself has brought to desperation and frenzy.’

Is that a quote from Marx? What circumstances is it describing, in which capitalism sets the petit bourgeoisie and lumpenproletariat in motion? And does capitalism set them in motion intentionally, for a purpose?

 

[ChloeTzang]

Seems like a LOT of Republicans have lost their minds....about 25-30%.....mind you. 5% of Democrats seem equally insane....

 

[Holy_Seduction]

a LOT of Republicans have lost their minds

Are you sure? Trotsky repeatedly stated that under Capitalism, every ally is a potential enemy, and every enemy a potential ally.

Others will disagree, but I’m not prepared as yet to say that Republicans are incapable of either ‘getting’ or proving his point…

 

[Politruk]

Are you sure? Trotsky repeatedly stated that under Capitalism, every ally is a potential enemy, and every enemy a potential ally.

That is also true under Communism.

 

[Holy_Seduction]

That is also true under Communism.

The worker’s sole ally is the international working class.

It must really be tiresome to you to keep repeating, ‘but it doesn’t exist … it just can’t!’

 

[HisArpy]

Seems like a LOT of Republicans have lost their minds....about 25-30%.....mind you. 5% of Democrats seem equally insane....

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What do you expect when those countries spout anti-American lies and propaganda?

 

[MajorRewrite]

What do you expect when those countries spout anti-American lies and propaganda?

Trump launches an unprovoked trade war against Canada and the EU.

HisArpy: “tHeY SpoUT aNtI-aMericAn LiEs!”