Changing the Life of a Nerd

[LadiDarkMoon]

Hummm, now I have to figure out how to have long distance girlfriends in Minneapolis. I hope your paying for my plane ticket out there

 

[Wolf of Mibu 69]

Yeah... being a poor college student doesn't make such things very easy. Heh.

 

[Ansi]

tall, a little lanky

Just out of curiosity, why is it that no one ever mentions the *overweight* nerds? I mean, everytime someone tries to create a stereotypical male 'geek' character, he's always the "skinny as a toothpick" type. This isn't too illogical, since 'skinny' is usually seen as the opposite of 'muscular'. However, it seems to me that no one ever writes about the poor, underrepresented souls who're *big* instead of frail. I mean, c'mon people...we need some attention too.



...come to think of it, I've noticed a decided lack of stories containing *any* overweight characters. Characters who're intended to be physically unnattractive are always set up as either 'plain' (not standing out) or 'underdeveloped' (men are lanky instead of muscular, women are "flat" instead of curvy). Why is it that hardly anyone tries characters at the *other* end of the spectrum? You hardly ever see stories about the chubby girl who's great in bed, or the big "bear" fellow who seems antisocial but who's really a big softie. The only stories I know of that break this trend are those that focus on overweight characters as a fetish (BBw, and the like).

You hear that, all you would-be authors? There are a lot of us big people out there who'd be very appreciative of stories with big characters that we can relate to. You're missing out on a key demographic here.



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...but anyway, back to the topic. Yeah, I can definitely own up to a love of 'nerdlove' stories, seeing as how I'm an unloved nerd.

I'm not very keen on this "breaking them in" idea...somehow, the thought of deflowering a geek for the sake of deflowering him doesn't appeal to me, and even seems a little cruel. Many geeks would be heartbroken if a girl went and showed sexual interest in him, then moved on to someone else. I think such things would work better as love stories. There are some real possibilities for romantic cuteness AND sexual abandon with such scenarios.

Anyone remember the first Revenge of the Nerds movie? Lead character Louis (or is it 'Lewis'? I forget...), manages to score with the school's lead cheerleader by pretending to be her real boyfriend (with a masquerade costume). By the time the deed is done, she finds out her mistake...but she also realizes it's the best sex she's ever had. By the end of the movie, she's got a NEW boyfriend. Heh.



Anyway, as I was reading this thread, I remembered a few of the 'nerdlove' story ideas I've come up with over the years. If anyone wants to try their hand at writing some of these, feel free to give it a shot.

Some of these are more detailed than others; this reflects the relative amount of time I've been thinking about them.

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1) College setting: a cadre of popular girls pride themselves on being able to sedcuce any man on campus (even the professors!) at will. One of these girls is the 'newbie', who's only just recently been allowed into the clique. After watching the other girls demonstrate their technique, she tries her hand at snagging the boys, only to fumble due to inexperience. After some false starts, she gets into an argument with the other girls, which leads to an ultimatum: to become a permament part of the group, she must seduce the nerdiest, most antisocial guy on campus and get him to sleep with her...or at least, *attempt* to. The plan is to reel him in, then publicly ridicule him right before 'the act' would have taken place.

The girl is able to befriend the guy quite handily. As it turns out, she's a little nerdy herself, and even shares some of the same geek interests that the guy does. Before long, they've become good friends, and she begins working her magic. Naturally, he's quite shy at first (partly because of his lack of experience with girls, and partly because he marginally suspects a trick), but he finally decides to trust her and go with it. She starts to bring him back to her dorm (where "the trap" will be sprung)...but halfway there, she stops and breaks down crying.

Although she started this as a calculated ploy, she's found that, once she got to know him, she really *does* like him. She doesn't want to hurt him anymore, but she doesn't want to get in trouble with the other girls, either (they've threatened to kick her out of the sorority if she fails to adapt to their ways). Plus, she's afraid that he'll be angry because of the initial deception. Finally, however, her guilt overwhelms her and she tells him everything.

He IS mad, and stomps off in a huff, leaving her to cry her poor heart out. But then, the next day, he shows up at her door with flowers and an apology...he still likes her, even if she *was* dishonest, and is willing to forgive her if she really likes him.

She does, she gives him a big spontanious kiss, and the audience collectively goes "Aww."

Ultimately, the girl does get booted out of the sorority, but she later decides that it was worth it.

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2) College setting: A popular-but-still-nice girl has a problem she doesn't like to talk about. Aside from being a little on the petite side, she possesses an immunodeficiency problem; she gets sick much more often, and to a higher degree, that most people. Every month or so, she catches some seasonal flu or some such and ends up bedridden for days at a time. The college has taken provisions to ensure she can keep up with her schooling, but she's embarassed by her seemingly constant illness; she's self-concious about seeming 'frail' to her classmates...she goes to great lengths to pretend like nothing's wrong with her.

A male classmate, a nerd, learns of her problem purely by accident. Feeling sorry for her (he's lost a sister to similar complications), but too shy to do anything directly, he starts perpetrating "stealth acts of kindness". Thermoses of delicious chicken soup and other get-well foods are left outside her door. Tapes of her favorite movies and TV shows turn up regularly, giving her something to do while stuck in bed. Tasks and errands she would normally do herself mysteriously get done beforehand by someone else. Perhaps most importantly, notes are left bearing friendly words of encouragement from "a friend".

Though at first creeped out by it all, the girl begins to settle into the routine, and finds herself wondering just who is going to all this trouble on her behalf. One day, while feeling perfectly healthy, she *pretends* to be ill and in bed, then sets up a stakeout outside her dorm. Sure enough, our hero shows up, and she gets the drop on him. He panics at first (having never talked to such a pretty girl before ), but she puts him at ease and thanks him at length for what he did. He calms down, and admits he did it because he "kind of likes her".

Realizing this (and realizing that she rather likes him, too), she takes advantage of the current between-illness lapse to take him by the hand and REALLY thank him.

They become an item...he tends to her while she's ill, and she 'returns the favor' (several times) when she's not.

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3) College setting (again...): A *very* shy nerdy fellow is depressed from lonliness; he really wants to find a girl, but he's literally incapable of talking to them without fleeing in nervous fear, or tripping over his own tongue.

At the start of his next semester, a new girl transfers to his school. Though not th least bit interested at first, he soon becomes intrigued when he learn about her 'condition'. She's a mute; her vocal chords were damaged by a childhood disease, leaving her incapable of speech.

Drawn to her for reasons he doesn't wholly understand, he attempts to talk to her...and, to his delight, finds that he can actually do it this time. Her physical inability to speak makes him more at ease with his own psychological inability to talk to girls, and he soon finds himself interecting with her on a regular basis.

Even though he can't understand the ASL she prefers to 'speak' with, she communicates with him just fine using charade-like gestures (she's had years of practice, after all). After a while, he finds that he often understands her without her even gesturing at all; he can determine what she's thinking from her facial and body language alone. The girl, meanwhile, is delighted to have someone who likes conversing with her at length; her condition has made it hard for her to make friends.

As time goes on, it becomes apparent that our hero is falling for the girl. He gets a fabulous idea, and secretly begins taking sign language classes, so that he'll be able to 'hear her speak' directly. He suprises her with his new skill at her birthday party, where he asks her (in ASL) if she'd like to go out for dinner. Moved by this gesture, she gets all teary-eyed and throws her arms around him for a loving hug ("Aww.").

After the party is over, and after a nice dinner, he takes her back home. As he starts to turn away to go to HIS home, however, she stops him and brings him inside. Suddenly realizing what she has in mind, he tries to talk his way out of it (he's still very shy about the whole 'sex' business), only to be silenced by a warm, wet kiss. Realizing that she's dead serious, he steels himself and takes the plunge, and they make sweet, passionate love for the first time in both their lives.

Basking in the afterglow, they gaze into each others' eyes, and it becomes perfectly clear that, sometimes, there's no need to say anything at all.

 

[Wolf of Mibu 69]

As an overweight nerd myself, I can relate to what you said.

My position is rather simple. I don't have a problem talking to girls, and in fact, have related pretty well to girls my whole life.

The only hitch is the fact that very few would ever find me sexually attractive at all, and none I've ever met. So... a story about a fat guy who manages to find a pretty girl would make me happy.

So far most of my experiences have led to positions where I'm acting as her boyfriend, with all the responsibilities, but none of the benefits. I'm still a little bitter about that one. Glad I came to my senses though.

Anyway, whatever. Dungeons and Dragons doesn't care what I look like.

 

[LadiDarkMoon]

Just out of curiosity, why is it that no one ever mentions the *overweight* nerds? I mean, everytime someone tries to create a stereotypical male 'geek' character, he's always the "skinny as a toothpick" type. This isn't too illogical, since 'skinny' is usually seen as the opposite of 'muscular'. However, it seems to me that no one ever writes about the poor, underrepresented souls who're *big* instead of frail. I mean, c'mon people...we need some attention too.

Nothing wrong with the big bear type guys. See it's all about how you describe the body type...*overweight* people think stomach so big it hangs out of the shirt and jiggles when he walks.

Beefy, big-boned, brawny, burly, doughy, husky, full-figured, pear-shaped, plump, pudgy, stocky, thickset...all words for a big bodied person that don't paint quite as negitive image as the word *overweight*.

 

[sirhugs]

I have never been overweight, but fit many characteristics of a 'nerd' ( though I through in a few extra features just for fun)

 

[LadiDarkMoon]

As an overweight nerd myself, I can relate to what you said.

My position is rather simple. I don't have a problem talking to girls, and in fact, have related pretty well to girls my whole life.

The only hitch is the fact that very few would ever find me sexually attractive at all, and none I've ever met. So... a story about a fat guy who manages to find a pretty girl would make me happy.

So far most of my experiences have led to positions where I'm acting as her boyfriend, with all the responsibilities, but none of the benefits. I'm still a little bitter about that one. Glad I came to my senses though.

Anyway, whatever. Dungeons and Dragons doesn't care what I look like.

When I first met my husband he was a twig, he has filled out a lot in 6 years. And I like him better now with the belly.

Now my best friend, he is a hefty guy. Dispite his magnetic personality that seems to charm women to fall all over themselves he seems to think because of his size no girl would ever want to be with him. Which just isn't true (I've been trying to get in his bed for the last 3, almost 4 years).

And once again he was my inspriation for this storyidea...but seeing that I have based so many of my story ideas around him I thought it might be time for he do a 180 on the describtion. but describtions can be changed. I would much rather read about a guy with the same body shapes as my best friend.

 

[LadiDarkMoon]

I'm not very keen on this "breaking them in" idea...somehow, the thought of deflowering a geek for the sake of deflowering him doesn't appeal to me, and even seems a little cruel. Many geeks would be heartbroken if a girl went and showed sexual interest in him, then moved on to someone else. I think such things would work better as love stories. There are some real possibilities for romantic cuteness AND sexual abandon with such scenarios.

I just want to clarify when I say "breaking them in", teaching them the way and than moving on. I am not talking a few days or weeks..I'm talking over years. In which time relationships, sprout, blossom and die. So he isn't getting used and thrown away...he is getting a long term relationship. But when the fun and love leaves the relationship they break up and she moves on to find another guy. Hopefully by than he has more confidence in himself and can find someone else too.

 

[Wolf of Mibu 69]

Well, I certainly understand how your husband feels... I have trouble understanding how others could find my body attractive; I certainly wouldn't.

I'm told I'm handsome, but it hasn't made a difference yet. Heh.

 

[LadiDarkMoon]

Well, I certainly understand how your husband feels... I have trouble understanding how others could find my body attractive; I certainly wouldn't.

I'm told I'm handsome, but it hasn't made a difference yet. Heh.

Yeah that is something to really bothers me about you guys. You need to learn to take a complement.
No matter how many times I call my hubby sexy or my best friend handsome...they don't believe.
Despite how turned on I get! What's with that

 

[Wolf of Mibu 69]

I just haven't seen interest. I can take a complement, but they're few and far between... and the ones that do arise don't necessarily go hand in hand with "lets fuck."

Heh. Allow me to impress upon you how rare it is to find a woman like yourself who actually likes fat guys.

 

[LadiDarkMoon]

Pudge is a wonderful, comfortable thing. It keeps you warm at night when you snuggle up against him, gives you fun little areas to pinch when you tease him and gives you a little more play because you don't have to worry about breaking them when you play rough!

Why wouldn't a girl want a guy with some chunk to him?

 

[Wolf of Mibu 69]

That's certainly a more favorable way of looking at it... but now I have one particular question...

Just how rough do you play?

 

[LadiDarkMoon]

Let's just say.... Your dentist could probably make a perfect cast of my teeth from the bite marks....if he could see through the scatches.

 

[Wolf of Mibu 69]

Oh wow... you're a real lioness in bed, aren't you?

Are you dominant too, or just... excitable?

 

[LadiDarkMoon]

Just excitable...
And the more I cum the more energy I get. For some reason within 5 minutes after I get about 10times the spent energy back.

I'm insatiable.

 

[Wolf of Mibu 69]

Wow... I bet he has trouble keeping up with you... eventually it's probably like beating (off) a dead horse. lol.

 

[LadiDarkMoon]

That's why I spend at least 7 hours a day masturbating and have spent over 1500 dollars on toys in the past year.

 

[Wolf of Mibu 69]

Heh. That's what we call "discretionary spending." Don't try explaining it to Congress though.

 

[vargas111]

Yeah that is something to really bothers me about you guys. You need to learn to take a complement.
No matter how many times I call my hubby sexy or my best friend handsome...they don't believe.
Despite how turned on I get! What's with that

I find it just the opposite. I know I'm attractive to women; the flirt witn me. But my wife is the one who resuses to believe she's sexy.

 

[Wolf of Mibu 69]

At least you don't have to worry about her ever cheating on you then. Heh.

 

[sirhugs]

At least you don't have to worry about her ever cheating on you then. Heh.

oh but they do.....they constantly seek reassurance....

 

[LadiDarkMoon]

At least you don't have to worry about her ever cheating on you then. Heh.

Yeah women who don't think of themselves as sexy are more likely to run to the arms of another at any chance given to them so they can attempt to convince themselves they are not replusive.

 

[Wolf of Mibu 69]

Maybe that's what women do; I know from personal experience that I hardly even try. Heh.

Aside from posting on Lit, that's about the extent of the effort I bother with anymore (in regards to dating).

 

[LadiDarkMoon]

I've found the harder I try the less attention I get. When I kick off my shoes and run through life without giving a damn I get a lot more guys interested.