Childhood Memories

[Annabelle1990]

I get that stories have to be about adults, but sometimes formative experiences occur before we are 18. I had a story rejected because it included a reflection of my best friend and I sharing a vibrator as teens. I was reflecting on it to affirm the closeness of our friendship and to show why it was that me doing something completely out of character when viewed by others might be less shocking to her. Why can we not write stories where we reflect on such formative experiences as a part of a larger story about adults?

 

[EmilyMiller]

Because the site rules preclude it.

In a political environment where there is performative demonization of adult entertainment (while the hypocrites consume it themselves), leading to ever more draconian legislation, the site has to take steps to protect itself.

You can generally choose to demonstrate close connections / intimacy pre-18 in other ways.

 

[nice90sguy]

I get that stories have to be about adults, but sometimes formative experiences occur before we are 18. I had a story rejected because it included a reflection of my best friend and I sharing a vibrator as teens. I was reflecting on it to affirm the closeness of our friendship and to show why it was that me doing something completely out of character when viewed by others might be less shocking to her. Why can we not write stories where we reflect on such formative experiences as a part of a larger story about adults?

It can be done subtly, and implicitly. But I agree it's frustrating sometimes -- my sexual experiences (which were not abusive in any way ) started young, and were very intense -- but this is not the site to share that kind of thing, either in stories or in the forums.

I managed to sneak in one of my early S/M experiences in one of my stories:

From the depths of Waldo's subconscious an erotic childhood memory popped into his head: He was in the schoolyard with "Teeny Tina", a brainy, geeky girl who everyone teased, including him, but who had a crush on him. Waldo was showing her his WWF moves. He'd ended up straddling her, pinioning her arms with his knees. It had given him a boner then. It was the earliest memory he had of being turned on. He'd looked down at Tina's open mouth, like he was doing now with Libby. Then he'd drooled into her mouth. She'd looked up at him, with a sort of blank look, which he'd never forgotten, but only much later could identify: Tina was getting off on being trapped underneath him, at his mercy. He'd then shuffled forward and clenched his thighs over her ears, completely covering her head. He remained on top of her for what had felt like minutes but was probably only a few seconds. Then he stood up. Neither he or Tina spoke about what had happened, which they both knew was something shameful and wicked.

 

[BobbyBrandt]

I get that stories have to be about adults, but sometimes formative experiences occur before we are 18. I had a story rejected because it included a reflection of my best friend and I sharing a vibrator as teens. I was reflecting on it to affirm the closeness of our friendship and to show why it was that me doing something completely out of character when viewed by others might be less shocking to her. Why can we not write stories where we reflect on such formative experiences as a part of a larger story about adults?

It can, and has been done, hundreds of time within stories here.

The writer simply needs to stretch their creativity to phrase things in acceptable ways.

For example, I have a story published here with a 14 year-old girl who falsely claims to have seen a man masturbating. Using those terms would result in a rejection, but claiming that she saw him expose and touch himself was accepted.

Underage characters can have thoughts, emotions, memories, and actions that are sexual without acting upon or describing them in detail. I'm sure that there are several experienced writers here who would be glad to review the portion of your story in question and offer you their sage advice.

 

[Annabelle1990]

I'm guessing I cannot share it here though.

 

[lovecraft68]

Keeping things simple can you share the experience without specifying the age? "We even shared a vibrator at one point."

 

[Annabelle1990]

I don't specify the age other than saying we were teenagers, and separately that we were young. But I don't say we were 18 and in truth I think we were 13.

 

[EmilyMiller]

I'm guessing I cannot share it here though.

Share the passage with someone via a PM. I’ll look if you like.

 

[Annabelle1990]

Share the passage with someone via a PM. I’ll look if you like.

I'll share it with you and give a brief description here.

 

[Annabelle1990]

It was about my best friend and me sharing her mom's vibrator as teenagers during sleepovers at her house. And I think it describes the closeness of our friendship very well.

 

[SimonDoom]

Why can we not write stories where we reflect on such formative experiences as a part of a larger story about adults?

Because Literotica has chosen a "black and white" rule on this subject. A black and white rule is easier for them to administer. It requires fewer judgment calls. It may result in the exclusion of some stories that, upon reflection, don't seem that problematic, but it's easier to exclude them than to allow them and to create a larger "no man's land" of stories the site has to take time to decide to accept or not.

We just have to accept that's the rule and that's the way it is. Other sites do things differently.

 

[Annabelle1990]

Because Literotica has chosen a "black and white" rule on this subject. A black and white rule is easier for them to administer. It requires fewer judgment calls. It may result in the exclusion of some stories that, upon reflection, don't seem that problematic, but it's easier to exclude them than to allow them and to create a larger "no man's land" of stories the site has to take time to decide to accept or not.

We just have to accept that's the rule and that's the way it is. Other sites do things differently.

That's too bad because childhood experiences can be a big part of who we are, sexually, as adults. Our sex drives go as deep into our inner selves as does the need to eat.

 

[BeechLeaf]

A slippery slope. If anything mild but technically under age was allowed, Laurel would have to study every such passage carefully, and other people, finding that some things were allowed, would try to game the system. The rule means certain realistic things are blocked, but is legally much safer for this site.

 

[Rob_Royale]

I definitely agree with the OPs desire to use childhood memories to explain adult behavior in stories. Certainly, all of us had such, and as writers, explaining motivations is part of the whole gig.
But as Emily pointed out, here on Lit, you will have to really dance around it to avoid breaking the rules. An unfortunate circumstance but from the website's perspective, a necessary one.

 

[Annabelle1990]

A slippery slope. If anything mild but technically under age was allowed, Laurel would have to study every such passage carefully, and other people, finding that some things were allowed, would try to game the system. The rule means certain realistic things are blocked, but is legally much safer for this site.

Opening with that particular event describes how close Sarah and I are - and aspects of me before I got into a triad relationship - that make Sarah accepting what I had allowed to happen feel less abrupt. It is an important part of the larger story. If possible I want to find a way to include it that lit will allow.

 

[Annabelle1990]

I definitely agree with the OPs desire to use childhood memories to explain adult behavior in stories. Certainly, all of us had such, and as writers, explaining motivations is part of the whole gig.
But as Emily pointed out, here on Lit, you will have to really dance around it to avoid breaking the rules. An unfortunate circumstance but from the website's perspective, a necessary one.

I don't want to break the rules but I want to fit in with them without ruining the story. I had at least one typo so having it rejected may have been a blessing in disguise too.

 

[EmilyMiller]

I'll share it with you and give a brief description here.

I hope what I said made sense. I won’t repeat it here. Good luck

 

[Annabelle1990]

I hope what I said made sense. I won’t repeat it here. Good luck

It did.

 

[Annabelle1990]

I get that lit has to protect itself.

 

[THBGato]

I had a story rejected because it briefly mentioned that two characters had played 7 minutes in heaven aged 14.

When I removed the reference to how old they were and just called it a "kissing game", it got through.

So, yeah, there are ways past this. But you can't be explicit or salacious in the description.

Good luck.

 

[Annabelle1990]

I rewrote the beginning to create the same vibe between me and Sarah while also letting me change the age of the masturbation experience. In the version that hopefully gets published, we were now still in high-school, but after turning 18 when we first shared Sarah's mom's vibrator.

In real life we were more like 13, but I get why lit can't publish that. My husband agrees with lit too. He's like, "Guys are going to jack off reading that part and you really should be an adult for that."

I guess you live and learn...

I shall remember this rule, although I wish there was more room for reflecting on the experiences that shaped us, many of which may have happened when we were children.

But I get it. Lit has to protect itself!

 

[anthrodisiac]

I rewrote the beginning to create the same vibe between me and Sarah

The same "vibe"?

 

[Annabelle1990]

The same "vibe"?

Our relationship dynamics. She's my best friend so the nature of our friendship has to be right even if I have to change certain details about things that happened.

 

[anthrodisiac]

Our relationship dynamics. She's my best friend so the nature of our friendship has to be right even if I have to change certain details about things that happened.

I know what you meant. It was just too good a pun to pass up. Vibing over vibes.

Oh... good title for something in Toys & Masturbation

 

[MrPixel]

It troubles me that we are not allowed to explore the facts of life about growing up. Adolescent exploration must be a part of everyone's life, it's just conveniently swept under the carpet as soon as adults enter the room.

Damn those adults.