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Circumcision finally may become a criminal act in the UK

BobRocket said:
You don’t get it do you. It’s about imposing Your on will on someone else’s body. And that can be an aesthetic will or a religious will. It’s not about banning it for consenting adults. The word here is consent- which babies don’t give.

Children should not be forced to be Christian or Jewish or Muslim or Hindu or Buddhist until they are taught what that actually means and decide that they believe that way if life is for them. so imposing a religious belief on them that involves cutting off a part of their body is quite simply child abuse.

If as an adult they want to cut off a highly sensitive part of the genitals purely for aesthetic reasons then great - go for it. They can continue to keep the NA personal lubricant market in business.
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They don't consent to being aborted either. :)
 
BobRocket said:
That seems like deflection. This conversation isn’t about abortion.
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It's about protecting those who can't speak for themselves. Are you really missing your foreskin that much Bob? If you had been aborted it wouldn't much matter. :)
 
Saint_Ann said:
It's about protecting those who can't speak for themselves. Are you really missing your foreskin that much Bob? If you had been aborted it wouldn't much matter. :)
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I have my foreskin. I wasn’t born into a cult or a capitalist hegemony
 
I only suggest that they remove the penis entirely, not just a bit of the foreskin.

Thank you! Thank you all. You have been wonderful.
 
Wilson23 said:
Dead skin cells called "smegma" tend to accumulate under a foreskin. It's a hygienic thing.
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As a British woman that’s had a fair share of partners (only one was circumcised) I’ve never encountered any partner that had hygiene issues down there. I think that says more about you than men with foreskins that you think they can’t keep themselves clean.
 
TastySuckToy said:
The question is a valid one. Infants cannot consent or speak for themselves. Barring proven medical necessity, circumcision is a unnecessary religious practice, one the person may grow up and not even want to be part of.
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If you want to rationalize infinite possible scenarios, adult circumcision is extremely risky. Millions done per year. Making infant circumcision ban a law is ridiculous when there are virtually no laws that prevent exingushing fetal life forms, which is ultimately more intrusive. :)
 
Saint_Ann said:
If you want to rationalize infinite possible scenarios, adult circumcision is extremely risky.
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Irrelevant. It's a personal choice. It should be just as illegal to surgically modify an infant without consent as it is to surgically modify an adult without consent.
Saint_Ann said:
Millions done per year. Making infant circumcision ban a law is ridiculous when there are virtually no laws that prevent exingushing fetal life forms, which is ultimately more intrusive. :)
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I'm not arguing about or for abortion. I'm arguing against circumcision.

My position leads towards banning abortion, because it respects an infants body as belonging to themselves.

If you're fine with surgically mutilating infants on religious whim without consent, while understanding that would be a horrific crime against an adult, then you are literally justifying putting infants in a category where basic human rights don't apply.
 
Let's compromise: Circumcision shall be legal -- but only as a circus act.

The "death-defying" part comes in when the Ringmaster asks for volunteers from the audience.
 
Good, mutilating babies is bad.

I'd prefer to live in a society that didn't cut up kids for any reason other than to save the childs life from an imminent medical threat. If it's not needed to save the kids life, then it's not a good enough reason to cut the kid.

If people want to cut parts of themselves off as adults?? That's their own fuckin' bidnizz, but no cutting up kids.
 
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Chadrone said:
Good, mutilating babies is bad.

I'd prefer to live in a society that didn't.

If people wantto cut parts of themselves off as adults?? That's their own fuckin' bidnizz but leave the kids alone.
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Oh, come on, you're Korean, you eat babies in a stew.

Or is that puppies? Not much better . . .
 
TastySuckToy said:
Irrelevant. It's a personal choice. It should be just as illegal to surgically modify an infant without consent as it is to surgically modify an adult without consent.

I'm not arguing about or for abortion. I'm arguing against circumcision.

My position leads towards banning abortion, because it respects an infants body as belonging to themselves.

If you're fine with surgically mutilating infants on religious whim without consent, while understanding that would be a horrific crime against an adult, then you are literally justifying putting infants in a category where basic human rights don't apply.
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How can ethically separate the two? It's analogous to comparing triming fingernails to running someone over with a truck. Consent isn't given in either instance. :)
 
Wilson23 said:
Oh, come on, you're Korean, you eat babies in a stew.

Or is that puppies? Not much better . . .
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We eat both in stew.

Army Rangers prefer babies though, higher protein.

Or the best, just their hearts, livers and lean muscle tendies. That's some gourmet shit.
 
Saint_Ann said:
How can ethically separate the two? It's analogous to comparing triming fingernails to running someone over with a truck. Consent isn't given in either instance. :)
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Good point -- circumcision is like trimming fingernails. You remove something of no practical use, under which dirt accumulates.
 
Saint_Ann said:
How can ethically separate the two? It's analogous to comparing triming fingernails to running someone over with a truck. Consent isn't given in either instance.
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Babies have just as much right to choose to modify their bodies as adults.

Embryos and fetuses on the other hand....shady fucks
 
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