Classical civilization and pederasty

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty_in_ancient_Greece

In ancient Greece, homosexuality between adults was considered ridiculous. The only socially acceptable same-sex relationship was between an adult man and a teenage boy, past puberty but too young to have a beard. (Lesbianism was mostly something nobody talked about, apart from Sappho. But you may be sure Spartan girls found solace with each other while all the boys were being buggered in the agoge.)

This attitude persisted throughout classical antiquity. Edward Gibbon, in "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire," pointed out that Emperor Commodus (the villain in "Gladiator") had a harem of 300 woman and as many boys. Not men -- boys.

Even the god Zeus had a bed-boy, the Trojan prince Ganymede, whom he kept eternally young. Officially he was Zeus' cupbearer, but the cup Zeus was interested in was between his buttocks. ("Catamite" derives from "Ganymede.")

The thinking appears to have been that teenage boys are legitimate sex objects because they are beautiful in a way fully grown men are not.

And I guess they are, if you can look past the acne.

The point of all this is that the existence of NAMBLA is not all THAT hard to understand. Make some allowances for the pederasts. You don't need to let them at your sons -- just don't despise them as something similar to rapists.
 
When Spartans married, by the way, the bride shaved her head (like a boy just entering the agoge) and dressed like a boy. It was the only way to get the groom to take an interest in her after spending his whole life in male company.

The agoge was a military boarding school in which all Spartan males of the citizen caste resided from the age of eight. And you may be sure the hazing was anal.
 
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I'm sensitive on this point because I'm something of an ephebophile -- I find teenage girls attractive.

And I know this is not an unusual taste. Is there any porn site without a "Teen" category? You can't really tell an 18-year-old from a 15-year-old.
 
I'm sensitive on this point because I'm something of an ephebophile -- I find teenage girls attractive.

And I know this is not an unusual taste. Is there any porn site without a "Teen" category? You can't really tell an 18-year-old from a 15-year-old.
You can really tell, you're just a disgusting person who wants to blame others.
 
On the other hand, to be safe, you really ought to make the effort, no?
That is not at all difficult. If you are in a bar, you may be sure somebody is checking ID.

Not your fault if it's fake. And a jury will BUY that!
 
Call this thread to mind the next time you hear somebody say, "Oh, boy!"
 
Admins may decide to delete this thread. They might also want legal proof of OP's age to verify he is old enough for lit.
 
Where ages of consent are lower, lives are generally shorter. Married in mid teens, dead in 40s or 50s. I expect the American age of consent will drop a little bit in most states, but most of us here would prefer a longer lifespan.
 
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