CNN says More Whites Were Killed From Police Brutality in 2014

[Sean Renaud]

Basically......it's not a report.

Fair enough. Ultimately there can never be a report on this information because the police in this country answer to no one and nothing.

 

[phrodeau]

I'm still scratching my head over "killed by the police" being equated with "hunted by the police."

And as far as saying this is from the liberal media, wouldn't the narrow-minded person who would negate it as being from the liberal media have a bit of trouble with the liberal media reporting that more whites were killed by the police in a given year than blacks? Isn't this counter to what the narrow-minded conservative would see as the liberal agenda? Is someone just knee jerking here?

It's just MrBates' weak sauce aping of busybody's schtick.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Without a doubt, the police departments have proven repeatedly that their vendetta against African-Americans is too real. But the scarier fact is, blacks may not even be the main victims targeted by police brutality.

Believe it or not, white people were the most hunted last year by police. It was reported nationwide that in the year of 2014, whites were the number one victims of police, with a number of 414. Meanwhile, blacks took the number two slot with 233 deaths. The number of Hispanic victims came in third place with 138 kills, with Asians being least likely victimized with an all time low of 15.

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This report is as puzzling as it is troubling. While this doesn’t change the fact that blacks are still much more likely to be racially profiled and sent to prison with longer sentences; or that the most recent killings of black men have been examples of injustice – its scary to know that its whites who are on top of the food chain.

This should especially put things in perspective for privileged whites who find themselves oblivious to police brutality towards blacks and other minorities…
But that’s also why it’s puzzling. You would think you would hear more about the police brutality towards white people. Instead, the media has the population thinking that whites can get away with murder if they wanted to—and have). But if more white people are being killed than black people, this definitely raises a couple of questions.

Why aren’t we hearing about the white victims of police brutality? Why is the media so adamant about showing only black victims? Should we factor in that unreported race?

If white people knew that they were actually the main victims of police brutality, would more white people empathize with black people and take a stand against police brutality in America?

Vendetta is much too strong a word. Any vendetta the cops may have is against habitual criminals, such as Freddy Gray. If you trace back all those deaths, you will see that almost every one of them was a person committing or seeming to commit a criminal act, including waving around a gun, admittedly sometimes a toy one.

You are right, though, about deaths of white persons not getting much coverage in the news unless, of course, the victim is a prominent person.

ETA: Here are some examples. Have you ever heard anything about any of them before now? http://mrconservative.com/2014/08/48057-black-officer-shoots-white-man-no-media-outrage/

http://wreg.com/2015/04/22/family-of-unarmed-white-man-killed-by-police-to-be-paid-3-million/

http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/06/1...-man-iowa-and-his-community-didnt-seem-notice

http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/...-killed-by-police-heres-how-the-media-reacted

 

[Sean Renaud]

Bullshit. First unless the cops in question personally knew Freddy Grey they couldn't possibly have vendetta against him no matter how many crimes he commited. It's like if I walk out of my house, shoot the first Arab I see and it happens to be the leader of ISIS on his way to detonate a nuke at the Super Bowl. I'm not a hero, I'm a sociopath who happened to hit the lottery. As for Freddy what crime was he commiting? Unless the cops have x-ray vision the knife in his pocket doesn't qualify at all. And the knife laws in this country are so varied that the police and prosecution can't even agree on if the knife he had was legal to carry or not or if he had any real reason to think it was illegal.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Bullshit. First unless the cops in question personally knew Freddy Grey they couldn't possibly have vendetta against him no matter how many crimes he commited. It's like if I walk out of my house, shoot the first Arab I see and it happens to be the leader of ISIS on his way to detonate a nuke at the Super Bowl. I'm not a hero, I'm a sociopath who happened to hit the lottery. As for Freddy what crime was he commiting? Unless the cops have x-ray vision the knife in his pocket doesn't qualify at all. And the knife laws in this country are so varied that the police and prosecution can't even agree on if the knife he had was legal to carry or not or if he had any real reason to think it was illegal.

First, the cops were following the orders of the local DA, who had ordered them to hassle drug dealers, especially in certain areas. Second, they may or may not have known Freddy by sight, since he was an habitual criminal, especially a drug dealer. The question may never be answered but were there grounds for the cops to pursue him when he ran from them? As for the knife in question, if the search was legal and the knife was illegal, his arrest was valid. I believe the final analysis of the knife was that it was illegal.

Even so, I believe he was the victim of a criminal act when he was cuffed and locked inside that steel cage and driven around without being strapped in. I don't know what the law would be, but "negligent homicide" comes to mind.

Here is more on the knife in question: http://fox13now.com/2015/05/06/was-freddie-grays-knife-legal/

What type of knife did Gray have?

Court documents say it was a “spring-assisted, one-hand-operated knife.” Mosby has said the knife was not a switchblade.

Switchblades are illegal in Maryland, but the law is even stricter in Baltimore.

“Baltimore City has a law that says it’s not only illegal to have a switchblade, but it’s also illegal to have a spring-action knife,” said Andrew Alperstein, a defense attorney.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Even in your article they don't know if it qualifies as a switchblade. I'm not going to pretend that I'm a knife expert, I'm simply going to say if it's in question even by your source I would prefer the cops err on the side of not arresting people. And again the knife was in his pocket so they didn't know he had it when the confrontation began.

Even if he was a known drug dealer how that translates into it being proper to harass him if you didn't catch him in the act. If you want to say the DA was the one who fucked up and the cops were just following orders two things come to mind. First the DA isn't going to be touched for shit because he's too far up the food chain. Second we stopped letting "I'm just following orders" fly after WWII. I know the cops aren't the military but that shit should not fly.

I have to assume if the cops knew Freddy by sight that's the kind of information we'd know by now. Even though it shouldn't fly, if they said we saw so and so who's got this and that on his record so we wanted to have a word with him it would have carried significant weight with the sheep in this country. You are right, there is lots of information we'll never know but we can only work with the information we do have.

Also things like this and other crap happen with sufficient frequency that it's not Freddy that matters at the end of the day. It's that stuff happens to what (at least the minority community) feels is almost unnacceptable. Notice the relative lack of people in the streets right now. The reality is we don't have the energy to keep it up and we should be at it constantly and in huge numbers, but we aren't. At the end of the day we're well trained, obedient dogs.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

It's just MrBates' weak sauce aping of busybody's schtick.

Sauce so weak I could substitute it for watercolor paint.

 

[MrBates2]

Sauce so weak I could substitute it for watercolor paint.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Even in your article they don't know if it qualifies as a switchblade. I'm not going to pretend that I'm a knife expert, I'm simply going to say if it's in question even by your source I would prefer the cops err on the side of not arresting people. And again the knife was in his pocket so they didn't know he had it when the confrontation began.

Even if he was a known drug dealer how that translates into it being proper to harass him if you didn't catch him in the act. If you want to say the DA was the one who fucked up and the cops were just following orders two things come to mind. First the DA isn't going to be touched for shit because he's too far up the food chain. Second we stopped letting "I'm just following orders" fly after WWII. I know the cops aren't the military but that shit should not fly.

I have to assume if the cops knew Freddy by sight that's the kind of information we'd know by now. Even though it shouldn't fly, if they said we saw so and so who's got this and that on his record so we wanted to have a word with him it would have carried significant weight with the sheep in this country. You are right, there is lots of information we'll never know but we can only work with the information we do have.

Also things like this and other crap happen with sufficient frequency that it's not Freddy that matters at the end of the day. It's that stuff happens to what (at least the minority community) feels is almost unnacceptable. Notice the relative lack of people in the streets right now. The reality is we don't have the energy to keep it up and we should be at it constantly and in huge numbers, but we aren't. At the end of the day we're well trained, obedient dogs.

See the last paragraph in my Post 30.

The DA would claim the knife was not illegal because she is prosecuting the cops and wants to enhance her case. Freddy was not by himself; he was part of a small crowd people and, if the cops saw an exchange between him and another member of the crowd, they would have been justified in accosting him and searching him as a possible drug seller, especially if they recognized him.

If the streets are devoid of people, there are several possible reasons. The folks who are not on the street cold be at home watching TV, reading stories on Literotica or just socializing. If they have other reasons for staying inside, it is more likely they want to avoid the criminals who would rob, rape and murder them than to avoid the cops.

Whatever else comes of this, though, there was definitely malfeasance by at least some of the cops involved.

 

[phrodeau]

First, the cops were following the orders of the local DA, who had ordered them to hassle drug dealers, especially in certain areas. Second, they may or may not have known Freddy by sight, since he was an habitual criminal, especially a drug dealer. The question may never be answered but were there grounds for the cops to pursue him when he ran from them? As for the knife in question, if the search was legal and the knife was illegal, his arrest was valid. I believe the final analysis of the knife was that it was illegal.

Even so, I believe he was the victim of a criminal act when he was cuffed and locked inside that steel cage and driven around without being strapped in. I don't know what the law would be, but "negligent homicide" comes to mind.

Here is more on the knife in question: http://fox13now.com/2015/05/06/was-freddie-grays-knife-legal/

What type of knife did Gray have?

Court documents say it was a “spring-assisted, one-hand-operated knife.” Mosby has said the knife was not a switchblade.

Switchblades are illegal in Maryland, but the law is even stricter in Baltimore.

“Baltimore City has a law that says it’s not only illegal to have a switchblade, but it’s also illegal to have a spring-action knife,” said Andrew Alperstein, a defense attorney.

Even in your article they don't know if it qualifies as a switchblade. I'm not going to pretend that I'm a knife expert, I'm simply going to say if it's in question even by your source I would prefer the cops err on the side of not arresting people. And again the knife was in his pocket so they didn't know he had it when the confrontation began.

Even if he was a known drug dealer how that translates into it being proper to harass him if you didn't catch him in the act. If you want to say the DA was the one who fucked up and the cops were just following orders two things come to mind. First the DA isn't going to be touched for shit because he's too far up the food chain. Second we stopped letting "I'm just following orders" fly after WWII. I know the cops aren't the military but that shit should not fly.

I have to assume if the cops knew Freddy by sight that's the kind of information we'd know by now. Even though it shouldn't fly, if they said we saw so and so who's got this and that on his record so we wanted to have a word with him it would have carried significant weight with the sheep in this country. You are right, there is lots of information we'll never know but we can only work with the information we do have.

Also things like this and other crap happen with sufficient frequency that it's not Freddy that matters at the end of the day. It's that stuff happens to what (at least the minority community) feels is almost unnacceptable. Notice the relative lack of people in the streets right now. The reality is we don't have the energy to keep it up and we should be at it constantly and in huge numbers, but we aren't. At the end of the day we're well trained, obedient dogs.

It makes no difference whether the knife was legal or not. It isn't the cop's job to make that call. If he suspects, he can arrest.

The matter in question is whether the cops decided to play paddy wagon bump-off with their detainees. The DA had nothing to do with that.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

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[MrRandyWatson]

Population of US by race:

Whites - 62%
Blacks - 13%
Hispanics - 17%
Asians - 4%

So the approximate equivalent of killing 233 members of 13% of a population would be killing 1,111 members of 62% of a population.

So...you're saying the police need to kill more white people? I can go round some white assholes up for the police to have at if you need me to.

 

[MrBates2]

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[IrezumiKiss]

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[Sean Renaud]

It makes no difference whether the knife was legal or not. It isn't the cop's job to make that call. If he suspects, he can arrest.

The matter in question is whether the cops decided to play paddy wagon bump-off with their detainees. The DA had nothing to do with that.

Of course it's the cops job to make the initial call on whether something is legal or illegal. You're simply substituting make a call with suspicion. But that suspicion should be based on facts to the best of the policeman's ability. Sometimes they are going to make the wrong call obviously in either direction.

 

[Boxlicker101]

It makes no difference whether the knife was legal or not. It isn't the cop's job to make that call. If he suspects, he can arrest.

The matter in question is whether the cops decided to play paddy wagon bump-off with their detainees. The DA had nothing to do with that.

They have to make a call. Either the arrest the guy, saying "This knife is illegal" or they don't arrest him, which is a way of saying "this knife is not illegal." Judging by the court documents, it was illegal.

Treating the suspect as they did is another matter altogether, and I consider the cops as having committed a homicide.

 

[Pairaclities]

Does the unreported race number of 311 not disturb anyone?
I find this number to be a potential complete reversal of the stats.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Does the unreported race number of 311 not disturb anyone?
I find this number to be a potential complete reversal of the stats.

Not really since a lot of that may depend on who there family wise to get in touch with and how much you really give a shit about it as long as you've solved everything else. There are more than enough people of Spanish descent in Mexico who would shit a brick if you called them white for example, American Indians and many Hispanics are virtually identical (for fairly obvious reasons) especially if you aren't some kind of expert. There are a few others if you go and check the listing that probably the coroner makes his best guess and if he can't figure it out on sight and the case is closed he never goes back to double check.

Though that's just my guess.

 

[tedsbeds]

Population of US by race:

Whites - 62%
Blacks - 13%
Hispanics - 17%
Asians - 4%

So the approximate equivalent of killing 233 members of 13% of a population would be killing 1,111 members of 62% of a population.

I was waiting for those statistics.