Comments Discussion (moved from review thread)

[anonamouse]

Fuck whoever told you that. Comment on what/whenever however you want. If it's the poet/writer who is the one who isn't appreciative of your time then fuck them too and do as you say by commenting on someone else's stuff.

Speaking of lame ass comments, when are you going to leave something more substantial then "Congradualtions on your E"

You two latest poems are both worth a 5, I would have left something saying so, but your self absorption and laziness must be contagious.

Ah, well
1201

 

[RhymeSmith]

Lame-assed comments

Adverse criticism should be validated by establishing some reasonable excuse for the adversity. If it doesn't, it should be considered drivel, and dismissed as such.

sometimes I don't even know why I like a poem

Few are motivated, and fewer still are even qualified, to make comments based on critical analysis. Not everyone wants to be an expert in prosody, or philology, or any of those other "y's." People like what they like, and mostly don't analyze their own response to art. That's the reason that some artists can sometimes make a living at what they do. It's not a bad thing.

If all you can say is "I like it" then make that your comment. If it's not what the poet wants, he/she will delete it, but I really doubt that would ever happen.

Like many others, I grew up hearing the same old trite advice:

"If you can't say something nice, don't say anything!"​

If you change "nice" to "nicely," it is good advice. Truly, what is the point of vitriolic, bilious commentary? It can only be a means of inflating one's own minuscule importance, by making others look smaller. It seems to me that this would also apply as much to criticism of encouraging comments, as it does to comments on an original work.

On the other hand, for some, silence also speaks negatively, and eloquently: people who get little or no encouragement often quit trying. Even a lame-assed comment can be useful, if it helps keep someone working at improving their product, and it is usually appreciated. I think we sometimes forget that comments are supposed to be for the author's benefit, not for that of other readers.

All that said, if I know that someone (nod to anonamouse) doesn't like comments that merely express approval and encouragement, then I certainly won't be making any to him/her.

 

[unpredictablebijou]

RhymeSmith, these are good points.

How bout we create a brand new mechanism by which people can comment specifically about comments? If they are that important we should have a critique mechanism for them.

Hell, let's just give up on the poetry part altogether and just comment on comments from now on.

*facetious and undercaffeinated*

bj

 

[RhymeSmith]

How bout we create a brand new mechanism by which people can comment specifically about comments? If they are that important we should have a critique mechanism for them.

We could have a link on every comment, that says "comment on this comment." It could bring up an editor very similar to the original comment editor, and when you hit the "submit" button, send the contents to /dev/null (this is a linux server, isn't it?).

Hell, let's just give up on the poetry part altogether and just comment on comments from now on.

That may have already happened.

 

[anonamouse]

Adverse criticism should be validated by establishing some reasonable excuse for the adversity. If it doesn't, it should be considered drivel, and dismissed as such.


Few are motivated, and fewer still are even qualified, to make comments based on critical analysis. Not everyone wants to be an expert in prosody, or philology, or any of those other "y's." People like what they like, and mostly don't analyze their own response to art. That's the reason that some artists can sometimes make a living at what they do. It's not a bad thing.


Like many others, I grew up hearing the same old trite advice:

"If you can't say something nice, don't say anything!"​

If you change "nice" to "nicely," it is good advice. Truly, what is the point of vitriolic, bilious commentary? It can only be a means of inflating one's own minuscule importance, by making others look smaller. It seems to me that this would also apply as much to criticism of encouraging comments, as it does to comments on an original work.

On the other hand, for some, silence also speaks negatively, and eloquently: people who get little or no encouragement often quit trying. Even a lame-assed comment can be useful, if it helps keep someone working at improving their product, and it is usually appreciated. I think we sometimes forget that comments are supposed to be for the author's benefit, not for that of other readers.

All that said, if I know that someone (nod to anonamouse) doesn't like comments that merely express approval and encouragement, then I certainly won't be making any to him/her.

For you - I am also 1201 or more correctly twelveoone, I have left enough lame ass comments, you are free to do so also, just sign your name to it. Just try to leave a little thought behind some of them. Show me you are capable of it, instead of thread mouthing platitudes like "truth is beauty" etc.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

I am also 1201 or more correctly twelveoone

I'm old, and it may just be senility setting in, but I don't recall ever hearing this bit of slang before. What is meaning/significance of 1201 (or twelvoone, if you prefer). I find it has been used as a username, a website, a date of some significance, and several other things, but I can't find anything about its meaning as a slang term or term of art.

Anybody want to educate me?

 

[RhymeSmith]

Show me you are capable of it, instead of thread mouthing platitudes like "truth is beauty" etc.

Are we trying to merge threads here?

 

[unpredictablebijou]

I'm old, and it may just be senility setting in, but I don't recall ever hearing this bit of slang before. What is meaning/significance of 1201 (or twelvoone, if you prefer). I find it has been used as a username, a website, a date of some significance, and several other things, but I can't find anything about its meaning as a slang term or term of art.

Anybody want to educate me?

It's not slang. He's just identifying himself - saying that he is also the poster on this board whose name is 1201.

I understand the confusion.

Welcome!

bijou

 

[QuantumMechanic]

It's not slang. He's just identifying himself - saying that he is also the poster on this board whose name is 1201.

Oh.... (palms face)... thanks.

 

[twelveoone]

I'm old, and it may just be senility setting in, but I don't recall ever hearing this bit of slang before. What is meaning/significance of 1201 (or twelvoone, if you prefer). I find it has been used as a username, a website, a date of some significance, and several other things, but I can't find anything about its meaning as a slang term or term of art.

Anybody want to educate me?

is also an industrial cleaner and a State Road in the late great state of Virginny, ya'll come down an visit me and WickedEve. We run a bakery. Buns, Just Buns.

 

[lorencino]

Welcome fellow

Oh.... (palms face)... thanks.

Don't worry, I too have become acutely aware of my galloping senility as newer generations navigate these computer thingies far more effectively than I am ever going to be able to. If I'm not mistaken, there was only one computer in existence when I was born and it looked like a telephone switchboard of the same period.

However none of this has lessoned the joy and rewards of participating in this forum. It is like an invigorating stream of life energized by a collective of fascinating minds that usually satisfy the hungers of the mind (even when it begins to slow down).

 

[WickedEve]

is also an industrial cleaner and a State Road in the late great state of Virginny, ya'll come down an visit me and WickedEve. We run a bakery. Buns, Just Buns.

I love buns. Take that any way you want.
We could write poems on buns. Our Sunday special could be bunnets -- sonnets on buns. Or the buttered bunanelle.

 

[RhymeSmith]

Oh.... (palms face)... thanks.

Don't worry, I too have become acutely aware of my galloping senility as newer generations navigate these computer thingies far more effectively than I am ever going to be able to. If I'm not mistaken, there was only one computer in existence when I was born and it looked like a telephone switchboard of the same period.

However none of this has lessoned the joy and rewards of participating in this forum. It is like an invigorating stream of life energized by a collective of fascinating minds that usually satisfy the hungers of the mind (even when it begins to slow down).

What he said!