Court of International Trade kicks Trump in the taco.

[BabyBoomer50s]

It's a yes or no question. Even in your inebriated state you should be able to muster an answer.

Yes, you have not read it. We knew that.

 

[icanhelp1]

You say you’re against taxes, but you applaud the continuation of TrumpTariffs that have cost American businesses and consumers more than $22 billion this month alone.

MAGA sheep are so weird.

I'm not against taxes I'm against increased taxes that don't reduce the deficit or the debt.


Short term pain for long term gain.

 

[Politruk]

I'm not against taxes I'm against increased taxes that don't reduce the deficit or the debt.

Well, Trump's tariffs won't do that.

 

[Rotadom]

Yes, you have not read it. We knew that.

If you read it, you would know that it doesn't do what you wished it did or you didn't read it at all.

It's very limited and you posted like it was some sweeping change.

I know, little victories are all you have.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

If you read it, you would know that it doesn't do what you wished it did or you didn't read it at all.

It's very limited and you posted like it was some sweeping change.

I know, little victories are all you have.

I posted a link to the ruling and noted it’s a stay. As you apparently have finally figured out, it is indeed a stay. Good job!

 

[Lazaran]

If you read it, you would know that it doesn't do what you wished it did or you didn't read it at all.

It's very limited and you posted like it was some sweeping change.

I know, little victories are all you have.

BabyBoobs is all about #winning #bigwinning

 

[dmallord]

I actually havent read it all, so maybe someone who can be polite and reasonable can correct me where I am wrong but my understanding is/was that the tariffs on Japan are full-steam ahead but the ones imposed (or just ranting and threatened) on other countries (Europe, Mexico, Canada, China...) are in the "uhhh...fuck. hang on a minute while we reboot" phase.

Happy to be more in the know though instead of the usual arguments on here

The first ruling was not a 'blanket effect' on tariffs. Some of them, Trump could continue, they determined, because they were within the normal purview set up to cover his domain. But most others were judged to have the felon usurping Congress's authority.

The appeal temporarily halted the decision of the three-judge panel until Trump's team can muster a reply at the appellate court level by July 9, I believe. So, for now, Trump is full steam ahead.

That's how the appeals process works via the regular channels. By design, under law, it is functioning properly. Now the MAGA would be screaming [and are] that this is the nail in the coffin. It's not that at all. The appeal could work its way to the Supreme Court. Wait and see is the appropriate calm approach [if you aren't MAGA.]

The volcanic level of angst could have been avoided had Trump gone to Congress via the normal process and gotten them to pass the legislation under their Constitutional purview. Irony right? MAGA has both houses and the Presidency, and it should have been an easy row to hoe, but Trump does what he does–blows things up in TACO fashion. And the diehards here go berserk over it.

 

[dmallord]

I'm not against taxes I'm against increased taxes that don't reduce the deficit or the debt.


Short term pain for long term gain.

Baaah, Baaaaah, Bah.
Businesses are in pain. Some are closing due to this, but you are okay with that.

Is anyone able to point out how these tariffs are/have reduced the deficit?

 

[LilKitKat]

Baaah, Baaaaah, Bah.
Businesses are in pain. Some are closing due to this, but you are okay with that.

Is anyone able to point out how these tariffs are/have reduced the deficit?

 

[dmallord]

This has been a popular posted item. I've seen it at least twice before you put it up. Silly but benign. I didn't re-re-re-watch it again, thank you though.

 

[LilKitKat]

This has been a popular posted item. I've seen it at least twice before you put it up. Silly but benign. I didn't re-re-re-watch it again, thank you though.

I posted it once a few months back here too haha sorry

 

[MajorRewrite]

I'm not against taxes I'm against increased taxes that don't reduce the deficit or the debt.


Short term pain for long term gain.

That’s a bizarre comment. TrumpTariffs don’t reduce the deficit any more than other taxes.

Not extending the tax cuts for the rich would reduce the deficit, so you’re in favor of that? Short term pain for long term gain.

 

[heathrowinneo]

For being the party of supposed fiscal responsibility, the deficit hole is just getting deeper and deeper. the lack of foresight and planning, if fiscal responsibility was their goal, isn't going to happen.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tariff-ruling-threatens-2-trillion-113000185.html

 

[coati]

I'm not against taxes I'm against increased taxes that don't reduce the deficit or the debt.

Short term pain for long term gain.

You are brainwashed beyond any future hope of recovery.

Your cult leader is crashing the American economy and destroying the infrastructure that supports it. He could cause a complete collapse, and you would call it a long term gain.

As a completely brainwashed MAGAt, you CAN'T help and you CAN'T be taken seriously.

 

[Rightguide]

The President doesn't have the authority to unilaterally impose tariffs.

17 hours ago

William Upton
Breaking

BREAKING: Federal Appeals Court Reinstates Trump Tariffs.​

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit is staying a lower court decision that struck down President Donald J. Trump‘s “Liberation Day” tariffs pending a future hearing set for June 9. In filing the motion for the stay, the Trump administration indicated that if the motion were not granted, it would seek an emergency hearing before the United States Supreme Court. The circuit court wrote that the lower court decision is “temporarily stayed until further notice while this court considers the motions papers.”

Late Wednesday evening, the United States Court of International Trade (CIT) handed down a ruling enjoining President Donald J. Trump’s “Liberation Day” tariffs, which include his reciprocal tariffs—mostly paused—and a 10 percent global tariff. This decision effectively barred the federal government from collecting tariff revenues. Additionally, the ruling appears to have instructed the Trump White House to return tariff duties already collected, which are in the tens of billions of dollars.

The CIT ruling determines that President Trump’s emergency declaration under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA), which provided the legal underpinning for the “Liberation Day” tariffs, exceeded his presidential authority.

https://thenationalpulse.com/2025/05/29/breaking-federal-appeals-court-reinstates-trump-tariffs/

If you actually read the decision, you’ll be struck by how thoroughly the Appeals Court dismantled the lower court’s overreach, an embarrassing rebuke to a bench of inferior tyrannical black-robed authoritarians playing judge without even a working grasp of federal law or the Constitution. They exercised powers they never had, and the higher court handed them a legal reality check with all the subtlety of a gavel to the face.

 

[LLCox]

Someone is making a killing on this on/off shit.

 

[icanhelp1]

Well, Trump's tariffs won't do that.

Tariffs are a protectionist tool used to level the playing field against those countries not playing fair. It’s also a tool to incentivize domestic manufacturing. When companies invest in America jobs are created. When jobs are created revenue increases.

It’s my opinion that if tariffs are used strategically they will in the long run be beneficial. Like other posters here have stated my concerns are for small businesses. Not sure what the plan is for them. Trump holds high regard for small businesses, I don’t believe he will extend tariffs if they hurt small businesses too much.

That’s a bizarre comment. TrumpTariffs don’t reduce the deficit any more than other taxes.

Not extending the tax cuts for the rich would reduce the deficit, so you’re in favor of that? Short term pain for long term gain.

How do you know?

The rich pay more than any class. Taxing the rich won't solve failure to consolidate or eliminate redundant programs. Won't solve trillion dollar deficits. High corporate taxes won't do it either.

The leftist intellectual elitist Marxist rich bitches think taxing success will eliminate debt, just don't touch their wealth. Wealth redistribution doesn't work.

 

[MajorRewrite]

How do you know?

TrumpTariffs don’t reduce the deficit any more than any other taxes. It’s all federal revenue and goes into the same big pot.

Tariffs are a protectionist tool used to level the playing field against those countries not playing fair.

True. So why did Trump put a 10% on nations we have a trade surplus with? Is he trying to reduce trade to protect them from us?

 

[dmallord]

TrumpTariffs don’t reduce the deficit any more than any other taxes. It’s all federal revenue and goes into the same big pot.



True. So why did Trump put a 10% on nations we have a trade surplus with? Is he trying to reduce trade to protect them from us?

I'm wondering the same thing about penguins. They wear tuxedos but never get invited to the White House for a shakedown meeting. Right? Like the others, they deserve their five minutes of defamation in the Oval Office. Do they have to be in a war to get some respect, or commit genocide on the iceberg people?

Thank you for your attention to this post.

 

[RoryN]

Best.
Thread.
Title.
Ever.

 

[RobDownSouth]

If you actually read the decision, you’ll be struck by how thoroughly the Appeals Court dismantled the lower court’s overreach, an embarrassing rebuke to a bench of inferior tyrannical black-robed authoritarians playing judge without even a working grasp of federal law or the Constitution. They exercised powers they never had, and the higher court handed them a legal reality check with all the subtlety of a gavel to the face.

Unlike you, I actually read the three page order that the Appeals Court issued. You can read it yourself here folks: PDF LINK

This is NOT an "Appeals Court Decision". It is a routine fifteen day temporary stay on enforcement.

The stay is a whopping FOUR paragraphs long, with a one paragraph summary of events at the beginning:

In the above-captioned cases, the United States Court of International Trade entered judgment against the United States and permanently enjoined certain Executive Orders imposing various tariffs. The United States moves to consolidate its appeals from those rulings and has applied for this court to stay the judgment and injunction pending these appeals and for an immediate administrative stay while the court considers that motion. The United States’s request for the Court of International Trade to grant the same relief remains pending before that court. Upon consideration thereof, IT IS ORDERED THAT:

(1) The motions to consolidate are granted. The appeals are consolidated, such that only one set of briefs should be filed for the appeals. The revised official caption for the consolidated appeals is reflected in this order.

(2) The request for an immediate administrative stay is granted to the extent that the judgments and the permanent injunctions entered by the Court of International Trade in these cases are temporarily stayed until further notice while this court considers the motions papers.

(3) The parties are directed to immediately inform this court of any action taken by the Court of International Trade on the United States’s pending stay motions.

(4) The plaintiffs-appellees are directed to respond to the United States’s motions for a stay no later than June 5, 2025. The United States may file a single, consolidated reply in support no later than June 9, 2025.

There was NO "dismantling of the lower court's overreach", "thorough" or otherwise.

That is a complete fiction Rightguide created out of thin air to support his own narrative and a pathetic attempt to recharacterize a routine 15 day pause to allow the Trump administration to present a valid rationale for its unConstitutional tariffs.

By the way, this is classic 4 step recharacterization of news to make it "MAGA friendly".

1. Appeals court issues a two week stay in PDF format.
2. Respectable news outlet CNBC reports on this stay, with headline Trump tariffs reinstated by appeals court for now
3. Whackadoodle news outlet "The National Pulse" rewrites CNBC report with altered headline Federal Appeals Court Reinstates Trump Tariffs. (notice two important words missing in headline).
4. Rightguide regurgitates The National Pulse, adding fictional "thorough dismantling of lower court's overreach" to advance his own version of the narrative.

 

[Lazaran]

Unlike you, I actually read the three page order that the Appeals Court issued. You can read it yourself here folks: PDF LINK

This is NOT an "Appeals Court Decision". It is a routine fifteen day temporary stay on enforcement.

The stay is a whopping FOUR paragraphs long, with a one paragraph summary of events at the beginning:

There was NO "dismantling of the lower court's overreach", "thorough" or otherwise.

That is a complete fiction Rightguide created out of thin air to support his own narrative and a pathetic attempt to recharacterize a routine 15 day pause to allow the Trump administration to present a valid rationale for its unConstitutional tariffs.

By the way, this is classic 4 step recharacterization of news to make it "MAGA friendly".

1. Appeals court issues a two week stay in PDF format.
2. Respectable news outlet CNBC reports on this stay, with headline Trump tariffs reinstated by appeals court for now
3. Whackadoodle news outlet "The National Pulse" rewrites CNBC report with altered headline Federal Appeals Court Reinstates Trump Tariffs. (notice two important words missing in headline).
4. Rightguide regurgitates The National Pulse, adding fictional "thorough dismantling of lower court's overreach" to advance his own version of the narrative.

The more the MAGAts gaslight, the more they reveal their fear & desperation about the current situation on multiple fronts (domestic & international issues).

Reichguide, BabyBoobs, BB, ineedhelp1, Ish(?)tard, etc, must be terrified, and drowning in desperation.



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Rightguide]

Unlike you, I actually read the three page order that the Appeals Court issued. You can read it yourself here folks: PDF LINK

This is NOT an "Appeals Court Decision". It is a routine fifteen day temporary stay on enforcement.

The stay is a whopping FOUR paragraphs long, with a one paragraph summary of events at the beginning:

There was NO "dismantling of the lower court's overreach", "thorough" or otherwise.

That is a complete fiction Rightguide created out of thin air to support his own narrative and a pathetic attempt to recharacterize a routine 15 day pause to allow the Trump administration to present a valid rationale for its unConstitutional tariffs.

By the way, this is classic 4 step recharacterization of news to make it "MAGA friendly".

1. Appeals court issues a two week stay in PDF format.
2. Respectable news outlet CNBC reports on this stay, with headline Trump tariffs reinstated by appeals court for now
3. Whackadoodle news outlet "The National Pulse" rewrites CNBC report with altered headline Federal Appeals Court Reinstates Trump Tariffs. (notice two important words missing in headline).
4. Rightguide regurgitates The National Pulse, adding fictional "thorough dismantling of lower court's overreach" to advance his own version of the narrative.

This is a stay based on the obvious Appeals Court finding that Trump was likely to succeed on the merits and the Trade Court was in error. It's over, your handwringing aside. read the second sentence of (2) and the warning contained in (3). It's over, The Trade Courts ruling was a catalog of errors. Go back and ask ChatGPT to analyze those two findings.

 

[RobDownSouth]

This is a stay based on the obvious Appeals Court finding that Trump was likely to succeed on the merits and the Trade Court was in error. It's over, your handwringing aside. read the second sentence of (2) and the warning contained in (3). It's over, The Trade Courts ruling was a catalog of errors. Go back and ask ChatGPT to analyze those two findings.

You're still making up "facts' to support your narrative.

NOTHING in any of the articles you or I linked to discussed any "finding" that "Trump was likely to succeed on the merits".

Not one God damned thing at all.

You've read waaaay too much into a two week temporary stay of a judgement. The Appeals Court is simply giving the Trump Administration an opportunity to attempt to explain why they feel the Tariff court "erred' to the Appeals court, which will then rule on the merits of whatever legal fiction Stephen Miller and company can come up with.

It's a very poor "But Ackshully" deflection attempt by you, in any case, and reflects poorly on your parents' failed attempts at teaching you right from wrong.

p.s. Happy Pride Month!

 

[eric_erosfan]

You're still making up "facts' to support your narrative.

NOTHING in any of the articles you or I linked to discussed any "finding" that "Trump was likely to succeed on the merits".

Not one God damned thing at all.

You've read waaaay too much into a two week temporary stay of a judgement. The Appeals Court is simply giving the Trump Administration an opportunity to attempt to explain why they feel the Tariff court "erred' to the Appeals court, which will then rule on the merits of whatever legal fiction Stephen Miller and company can come up with.

It's a very poor "But Ackshully" deflection attempt by you, in any case, and reflects poorly on your parents' failed attempts at teaching you right from wrong.

p.s. Happy Pride Month!

Rightguide is such a braindead MAGAtard. His cult beliefs have him projecting what he wants to be true. Not what is Constitutional law.