Deadly Sins:

Jealousy or Envy?


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Twice.

Thrice, if you want to cut your latest fake sabbatical short

You still suck at discerning author's voice.

The correct answer is that, while envy and jealousy are not interchangeable in toto, envy and jealousy are considered interchangeable for the sense used in the quote in question.
 
You still suck at discerning author's voice.

The correct answer is that, while envy and jealousy are not interchangeable in toto, envy and jealousy are considered interchangeable for the sense used in the quote in question.

Really? How so? Genuinely curious, had that envy thing drilled into my head pretty early on. :confused::rose:

ETA Oh, and if you want to comment on my nipples please do so in the 'Best Breast/Chest' thread in the Lounge.
Kthxbai
 
Really? How so? Genuinely curious, had that envy thing drilled into my head pretty early on. :confused::rose:

ETA Oh, and if you want to comment on my nipples please do so in the 'Best Breast/Chest' thread in the Lounge.
Kthxbai

It's in all the commentary I've read about the use of 'jealousy'. Some folks insist on a distinction, but jealous being synonymous with envy appears in dictionaries I've looked at. I've already posted Merriam-Webster. Here's Oxford:

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/jealous

For what it's worth, Wikipedia has a brief discussion:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jealousy

Jealousy can consist of one or more emotions such as anger, resentment, inadequacy, helplessness or disgust. In its original meaning, jealousy is distinct from envy, though the two terms have popularly become synonymous in the English language, with jealousy now also taking on the definition originally used for envy alone.

But the important thing is, why don't I see your tits in the breast thread? :(
 
You still suck at discerning author's voice.

The correct answer is that, while envy and jealousy are not interchangeable in toto, envy and jealousy are considered interchangeable for the sense used in the quote in question.

You're going to have to backpedal a little further with that one.
 
It's in all the commentary I've read about the use of 'jealousy'. Some folks insist on a distinction, but jealous being synonymous with envy appears in dictionaries I've looked at. I've already posted Merriam-Webster. Here's Oxford:

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/jealous

For what it's worth, Wikipedia has a brief discussion:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jealousy

Jealousy can consist of one or more emotions such as anger, resentment, inadequacy, helplessness or disgust. In its original meaning, jealousy is distinct from envy, though the two terms have popularly become synonymous in the English language, with jealousy now also taking on the definition originally used for envy alone.

But the important thing is, why don't I see your tits in the breast thread? :(

This is a better back-pedal. Took you all night though and that option is listed in the choices so you can go ahead and be the sole vote for : "Should be envy, but jealousy is often used improperly and would be ok."

"Popularly become" is not synonymous for "properly used."

Birthday has popularly come to be pronounced "Birfday," does not make it correct, just acceptable in popular usage. No style guide is going to support that.
 
"Popularly become" is not synonymous for "properly used."

Proper is subjective and contextual, as your "birfday" example demonstrates. Let's go with the fact that major dictionaries acknowledge that jealousy : envy, and that language evolves.

I accept your apology.
 
Just to wrap things up:

What to Know
While many people believe that jealous means fearing someone will take what you have, and envious means desiring what someone else has, historical usage shows that both mean "covetous" and are interchangeable when describing desiring someone else's possessions. However, when referring to romantic feelings, only "jealous" can be used to mean "possessively suspicious," as in "a jealous husband."


https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/jealous-vs-envious
 
DEADLY SIN

A "father" spends more time trolling his betters than repairing the broken relationship with his "family".

I'm sure they are proud of you, Q-#### :rose:
 
It's in all the commentary I've read about the use of 'jealousy'. Some folks insist on a distinction, but jealous being synonymous with envy appears in dictionaries I've looked at. I've already posted Merriam-Webster. Here's Oxford:

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/jealous

For what it's worth, Wikipedia has a brief discussion:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jealousy

Jealousy can consist of one or more emotions such as anger, resentment, inadequacy, helplessness or disgust. In its original meaning, jealousy is distinct from envy, though the two terms have popularly become synonymous in the English language, with jealousy now also taking on the definition originally used for envy alone.

But the important thing is, why don't I see your tits in the breast thread? :(

Thanks, guess I'm a little old school. :)
As to nips and tits? You first, Gorgeous. ;):rose:
 
It's in all the commentary I've read about the use of 'jealousy'. Some folks insist on a distinction, but jealous being synonymous with envy appears in dictionaries I've looked at. I've already posted Merriam-Webster. Here's Oxford:
https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/jealous

For what it's worth, Wikipedia has a brief discussion:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jealousy

Jealousy can consist of one or more emotions such as anger, resentment, inadequacy, helplessness or disgust. In its original meaning, jealousy is distinct from envy, though the two terms have popularly become synonymous in the English language, with jealousy now also taking on the definition originally used for envy alone.

It seems like the highlighted part is the most important differentiating characteristic.

According to the source below too, jealousy is far more dangerous than envy.
Because it can lead to anger and violence.
Envy: much less so, the person takes it more on themselves than on others.

http://www.emotionalcompetency.com/images/envyjealousy.gif


"In envy you want what you never had.
In jealousy, you are threatened with the loss of something you have (or thought you had)

Envy is a two-person emotion; I want what you have.
Jealousy is the three-person love triangle, I want who you have."

http://www.emotionalcompetency.com/jealousy.htm


But the important thing is, why don't I see your tits in the breast thread? :(

I'm jealous!:mad:
 
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DEADLY SIN

A "father" spends more time trolling his betters than repairing the broken relationship with his "family".

I'm sure they are proud of you, Q-#### :rose:

Those dark, lonely hours of separation are warmed by the thoughts of dear old dad..Knowing that while he doesn't give them any of the love or even financial help they desperately seek, they're happy for him and his true love..a twenty year old Toyoto Pussymobile.
 
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Yes! Homer explains even better, why jealousy is more likely to lead to violence:

"Jealousy is when you worry someone will take what you have.
Envy is wanting what someone else has."

They give Rebecca as an example for envy (envy of his first dead wife).
For jealousy - Othello, of course.
 
Hmm, I think both jealousy and envy have the potential to eat someone up from the inside out and cause violence problems. It depends on how self aware the individual is, I suppose.
 
Hmm, I think both jealousy and envy have the potential to eat someone up from the inside out and cause violence problems. It depends on how self aware the individual is, I suppose.


The idea was, among others, that if you worry that someone else will take what you have (jealousy) you're more likely to blame that person and lash out.
Whereas envy (wanting what someone else has) - a bit more internalizing.

But you're actually right.
If the envious person is less self-aware or is entitled ("I deserve to that, Not you") - it can lead to violence too.
 
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