Dear Free Trade activists - thank you putting America at risk of foreign manipulation

[Handprints]

BTW, I hope you're taking notes on the priceless economic lessons Handprints is giving over in Ami's "shang challenge" thread.

How very kind! I'd be happy to quote you though, so we can't call them priceless...

Best,
H

 

[trysail]

Translation for the economic illiterati:
Chinese labor and manufacturers have been reducing the cost of just about everything you buy for the last fifteen years.

By the way, Comrade Barney Frank is an economic illiterate who, throughout his career, has demonstrated a belief in Santa Claus, the tooth fairy, and the concept of something for nothing. Greenspan is no genius, either. The current housing bubble and subprime fiasco are directly attributable to the Fed's insane policy of low interest rates from 2001-2003.
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Greenspan Sees Political Pressure on Fed as Inflation Picks Up
By Craig Torres

Sept. 15 (Bloomberg) -- The Federal Reserve may need to double its benchmark interest rate to at least 10 percent by 2030 to contain inflation, sparking a political showdown that could challenge its independence, former Chairman Alan Greenspan said.

Slowing productivity and rising wages abroad will probably cause U.S. consumer prices to climb in the next quarter century, Greenspan wrote in his book, ``The Age of Turbulence: Adventures in a New World,'' published by Penguin Press. His outlook includes a reversal of many of the trends that aided the success of his own tenure at the Fed.

There are already some signs that political scrutiny is rising. Democrats including Barney Frank of Massachusetts, who heads the House Financial Services Committee, called last week for a ``meaningful'' cut in interest rates.

``Federal Reserve independence is not set in stone,'' wrote Greenspan, 81, who led the Fed for 18 years until January 2006. ``The dysfunctional state of American politics does not give me great confidence in the short run'' and there may be ``a return of populist, anti-Fed rhetoric,'' he wrote.

The book, an advance copy of which was obtained by Bloomberg News, is scheduled for publication on Sept. 17. The Wall Street Journal published an account on its Web site yesterday after buying a copy at a New York-area bookstore.

To keep inflation under 2 percent, ``the Fed, given my scenario, would have to constrain monetary expansion so drastically that it could temporarily drive up interest rates into the double-digit range not seen since the days of Paul Volcker,'' Greenspan wrote.

Volcker Example

Volcker was Greenspan's predecessor, and faced criticism from members of Congress as he lifted borrowing costs to rein in prices, sending the economy into a recession in 1980 and 1981.

Now, Chairman Ben S. Bernanke, who took the Fed's helm in February of last year, faces some pressure to cut rates after a housing recession spurred a sell-off in credit markets and the first loss of jobs in four years.

The Federal Open Market Committee will cut the benchmark by a quarter point on Sept. 18 to 5 percent, according to the median forecast in a Bloomberg News survey of economists.

Frank said in a Sept. 7 statement that the Fed should make ``a meaningful interest-rate cut'' to help the economy. Democratic Representative Carolyn Maloney of New York said the same day it was ``no longer a question for the Fed.''

Greenspan helped guide the longest economic expansion in U.S. history, lasting from 1991 to 2001. Growth averaged a 3 percent annualized rate during the former Fed chief's time at the central bank.

Growth Forecast

The economy will probably slow to a pace of under 2.5 percent on average from now until 2030, Greenspan forecast in the book.

Consumer prices, which increased at an average annual rate of 3.1 percent during Greenspan's tenure, will likely climb by 4.5 percent or more a year in the future, he wrote. Ten-year Treasury yields may average 8 percent by 2030, he said.

``How the Federal Reserve responds to a reemergence of inflation'' will have ``a profound effect not only on how the U.S. economy of 2030 turns out but also, by extension, on our trading partners worldwide,'' Greenspan wrote in the book.

The former chairman built his projection on three economic shifts that he said can already be seen. First, the 1990s boom in productivity, which allowed Americans to produce more goods and services without pushing up prices, is fading.

``There is little doubt, however, that the burst of U.S. non-farm productivity growth from 1995 to 2002 has given way to a lessened pace of growth,'' Greenspan wrote.

Productivity to Slow

Productivity gains averaged a 1.7 percent annual rate in the first six months of this year, down from 3.6 percent during the high-technology boom of 1999. Greenspan forecast a long-term average of 2 percent for increases in output per hour.

Greenspan also forecast an end to the anti-inflation pressures from the inclusion of China and other emerging economies into the global trading system.

U.S. wage earners have suffered and consumers have benefited from a one-time shift of millions of workers into the world labor force. The former chairman once defined globalization as the elimination of borders in the production of goods and services.

``The continuing acceleration of the flow of workers to competitive markets during the past decade has been a potent disinflationary force,'' Greenspan wrote. ``That acceleration has held down inflation virtually uniformly across the globe.''

That force may be coming to an end.

China Effect

``The rate of flow of workers to competitive labor markets will eventually slow, and as a result, disinflationary pressures should start to lift,'' Greenspan wrote. ``China's wage growth should mount, as should its rate of inflation. The first signs are likely to be a rise of export prices, best measured by the prices of Chinese goods imported into the United States.''

U.S. Labor Department figures showed yesterday that costs of imported Chinese products rose for a fourth straight month in August.

The third source of pressure on inflation will come from U.S. government budget deficits, according to Greenspan. Federal spending absorbs private savings and uses them for less productive purposes, imparting ``a bias toward inflation'' Greenspan wrote.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

See my post 144 above. Short answer: Indirectly, to a very modest degree. Nothing remotely comparable to Airbus.

BTW, I hope you're taking notes on the priceless economic lessons Handprints is giving over in Ami's "shang challenge" thread.

I stopped taking notes when he started insulting college graduates and started assuming their lifestyle all matched his own. He has very large holes in his reasoning but he knows just enough to be dangerous.

It's an utter joke to believe China, which has been an antidemocratic culture for thousands of years, will ever reverse that. At the flick of a pen they could drive us into a Depression and Handprints himself has shown they're making themselves immune to the negative effects of that.

 

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Person A: I'm right!
Person B: No, I'm right!
Person A: No, I am!
Person B: Nuh uh!
Person A: Oh yeah? Facts and statistics! Grrrr!!!!
Person B: My own facts and statistics!
Person A: I'm the only one who's right! Everyone is wrong making me the best!
Person B: Anger! Vitriol! Pissing and moaning!

...and on and on.