Disaster in the Making

[Aglaopheme]

Frankly, I was lazy to scan the whole tread, and just wanted to post the opinion link here.



Well, supposedly no one should.

The point of mentioning the Izrael at all, is the, possibility wrong, impression that they have quite a disproportionate influence in certain circles of USA politics.

Me too. You’re right they are an important part of this mess.

http://forum.literotica.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2083669&stc=1&d=1572184652

 

[Aglaopheme]

You were so prescient!


Disaster has struck...










... Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi!

I’m assuming someone I can’t see made a thread.

This is good news.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Interesting Amb O’Brien won’t say who owns the oil, and Trump said they’ll have to deal with us to get it, or something to that effect.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Interesting Amb O’Brien won’t say who owns the oil, and Trump said they’ll have to deal with us to get it, or something to that effect.

Definitely sounds like a disaster in the making.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SecretAntiqueGreatargus-size_restricted.gif

 

[bellisarius]

Interesting Amb O’Brien won’t say who owns the oil, and Trump said they’ll have to deal with us to get it, or something to that effect.

It will just sit there in the ground.

 

[SpeareChucker]

It will just sit there in the ground.

That's where Libs want it so they can force you to go back to the 18th century -

wind and sun; no nukes!

 

[Aglaopheme]

Definitely sounds like a disaster in the making.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SecretAntiqueGreatargus-size_restricted.gif

https://www.washingtonpost.com/vide...b19a2b-67f0-456c-9c73-2bece4286c13_video.html

 

[heathergives]

Meet the Depressed meltdown

Anyone watching "Meet the Depressed"this morning (with Chuck Todd) hd an excellent chance to see our left-wing biased media in full meltdown this morning. Kudos the the national Security Adviser for standing up to him.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Looking for the quote where Trump said they’d have to fight our military to take the oil.

Meanwhile:

Russia's Defence Ministry has criticised the United States' decision to send armoured vehicles and combat troops into eastern Syria to protect oil fields, calling it "banditry".

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019...oil-fields-eastern-syria-191026183322358.html

 

[bigsly]

Pity Bump

https://media.giphy.com/media/jKjN2TBAHsgzS/giphy.gif.....

 

[Conager]

Such a disaster. . .

Decides special ops troops serving as defacto human shields to keep the evil Turks from controlling their border and neighboring violence as they see fit is a poor allocation of resources.. The idea is abhorrent to the same people who supported operation code pink who believe in open borders and saw no problem whatsoever with the Obama Administration sending high-powered rifles across the border to Mexican cartels who were obviously going to use them to murder people.

Chaos was going to ensue and we would lose any ability to degrade ISIS' ability to commit acts of violence.

Except the military seemed to be able to use those reallocated operators to do something useful: kill #1 and #2 in ISIS chain of command.

Maybe if Trump brought Obama back as a special military advisor and put him in charge on drone strikes on civilians and arming various criminal and terroristic organizations they would be happy.

Trump could cure cancer and you all would complain he had decimated the oncology clinic industry.

 

[bigsly]

Even sweeter...

Successful& historical operation due to a joint intelligence work with the United States of America.

Mazloum Abdî مظلوم عبدي, SDF General Commander
@MazloumAbdi
https://twitter.com/MazloumAbdi/status/1188366280908333057?s=20

Didn't Charlie "Aglaopheme" Brown assure the Board that evil Trump had completely abandoned "the Kurds" to "genocide" by Turkey. And yet, here is America's staunchest Kurd ally announcing the joint alliance to nail Daesh's leader.

Huh.

Aglaofullofshit, as usual.

 

[Conager]

I don't pretend to understand the complexities of the current nuances much less all of the history surrounding all of these various factions going back centuries.

I also wouldn't pretend that Trump's would be sophisticated enough to know or care any of those things when he makes a decision to pull out but the idea that we're in the middle of this mess with the Kurds as the enemies of our enemies and the Turks also the enemies of our enemies but in this case the enemy of our friend seems like it's rather complicated.

We were there in the middle and there's lots of things that probably ought to be done to some of these terrorists that we really can't in good conscience countenance but on the other hand there's nothing at all wrong with us walking away and letting savages do savage things to other savages.

It's not like we're not still feeding the military industrial complex we're still sitting around with very expensive airplanes and missiles smart bombs and surveillance equipment to help out whoever of our friends need some help to do something to our enemies.

With us out of the way the Kurds and the Turks can decide if they choose to that the enemy of their enemy makes them convenient bedfellows. For that to happen the Kurds have got to decide at what point their desire for a Homeland is worth going to war for or whether they can reach some sort of detente.

We're obviously not absent from the Middle East at the moment, Aglo's histrionics, notwithstanding.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Didn't Charlie "Aglaopheme" Brown assure the Board that evil Trump had completely abandoned "the Kurds" to "genocide" by Turkey. And yet, here is America's staunchest Kurd ally announcing the joint alliance to nail Daesh's leader.

Huh.

Aglaofullofshit, as usual.

All the more reason to not turn our backs on them. Don’t you think?

 

[jaF0]

Didn't Charlie "Aglaopheme" Brown assure the Board that evil Trump had completely abandoned "the Kurds" to "genocide" by Turkey. And yet, here is America's staunchest Kurd ally announcing the joint alliance to nail Daesh's leader.

Just proves the Kurds have more integrity than The Duhnald.

 

[Conager]

All the more reason to not turn our backs on them. Don’t you think?

No longer being embedded with them is "turning our backs" on them? Seems like we were handy enough to do a joint operation with them. See no reason why we would not be available again if they need to whistle up a couple of gunships or need us to backtrack someone on satellite imagery.

How did you feel about Obama turning his back on our allies in Iraq? How about turning our backs on civilians after he promised to do something if they crossed his red line?

How did you feel about him simply deciding not to intervene with all over the world where there were various and sundry genocides going on?

Rhetorical.

Your highly selective poutrage is self-evident.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

So sending our people to an oil field to keep it in the ground is a an acceptable use of their lives?

You people that agree with that are fucked in the head. You don't deserve to say you care about our troops.

 

[HisArpy]

So sending our people to an oil field to keep it in the ground is a an acceptable use of their lives?

You people that agree with that are fucked in the head. You don't deserve to say you care about our troops.

Simpleton. [/BB simulation]

 

[Aglaopheme]

No longer being embedded with them is "turning our backs" on them? Seems like we were handy enough to do a joint operation with them. See no reason why we would not be available again if they need to whistle up a couple of gunships or need us to backtrack someone on satellite imagery.

How did you feel about Obama turning his back on our allies in Iraq? How about turning our backs on civilians after he promised to do something if they crossed his red line?

How did you feel about him simply deciding not to intervene with all over the world where there were various and sundry genocides going on?

Rhetorical.

Your highly selective poutrage is self-evident.

Yeah, Trump giving Erdoğan the go ahead to move into Syria is just that. Yes, people are dying and hundreds of thousands are abandoning their homes. It’s not that hard to grasp for most.

 

[HisArpy]

Yeah, Trump giving Erdoğan the go ahead to move into Syria is just that. Yes, people are dying and hundreds of thousands are abandoning their homes. It’s not that hard to grasp for most.

Hysteria is causing you to lie to yourself.

Trump DID NOT give Erdogan a "go ahead" to invade Syria.

 

[Conager]

Hysteria is causing you to lie to yourself.

Trump DID NOT give Erdogan a "go ahead" to invade Syria.

I used to think that she had a basic handle on local and national politics and wasn't a complete idiot on world events. Apparently whoever she's been using all these years for her talking points has gone into full hysterics, because she rarely makes sense anymore.

All histrionics and hyperbole, all the time.

 

[Adre]

I used to think that she had a basic handle on local and national politics and wasn't a complete idiot on world events. Apparently whoever she's been using all these years for her talking points has gone into full hysterics, because she rarely makes sense anymore.

All histrionics and hyperbole, all the time.

I agree with your first 4 words anyway.

 

[Rightguide]

Looking for the quote where Trump said they’d have to fight our military to take the oil.

We have a national and legal interest in keeping that oil away from Iran.

 

[bigsly]

Reports are that the SDF - Syrian Defense Forces - made up of Kurdish, Arab, Assyrian/Syriac, Armenian, Turkmen and Chechen milita, are the primary safe keepers of the oil fields at issue, with the full support of the USA, of course. The SDF also allied with the USA in the 5-month long investigation into the exact whereabouts of the recently self-exploded Daesh head, al-Baghdadi (although it is said his literal head was still attached, or at least in the near vicinity, allowing certain biometric and DNA ID).

If you recall, the SDF was specifically created as the US ally in Syria, after the Libya and Benghazi fiascos leaked tons of US arms and equipment into Syria, among seemingly countless jihadi entities including Daesh itself. As shown above, the SDF is made up of a coalition of different folks, all with being anti-Assad in common. The SDF is America's only relevant ally in Syria, and it is armed to the teeth with American-furnished weaponry, backed-up with American intel and logistics.

Many dumbasses, as is plainly evident throughout this thread, whine about the USA abandoning their allies "the Kurds" to "genocide" by Turkey, when, in fact, the SDK is as strong as its ever been before in Syria.

And now it controls that oil. Which obviously means even more badass goodies from America are already in the pipeline.

 

[phrodeau]

We have a national and legal interest in keeping that oil away from Iran.

Iran is going nuclear. I doubt they care.