Disney calls DeSantis' bluff

[wallstreetguy]

The company hasnt done a damn thing except speak out of line against Republicans.

Or pay their property taxes or go by Florida state regulations.
Corporations are considered individuals under the law. They have to pay their taxes and abide by the law.
Also, once they leave their lane, expect consequences. Isn't that what your lot has been doing for years? Trying to cancel anyone and everyone who disagrees with you?

 

[ll74]

Or pay their property taxes or go by Florida state regulations.
Corporations are considered individuals under the law. They have to pay their taxes and abide by the law.
Also, once they leave their lane, expect consequences. Isn't that what your lot has been doing for years? Trying to cancel anyone and everyone who disagrees with you?

So you support governmental retaliation against freedom of speech

Thanks for confirming

 

[wallstreetguy]

But I thought Republicans were all for capitalism? You know lower taxes, support of those multi-billion corporations who employee tens of thousands of employees. Yet here we see a governor going directly after one such entity, the possible result of which will be a new huge tax burden on his constituents.

Seems un Republican to me.

I work on Wall Street. It is run by billionaire Democrats who use an army of lawyers, accountants, and various other experts to avoid paying any tax, fee or penalty they are supposed to pay. That is called rule evasion.
They justify it by saying they give tons of money to Dem party and various liberal causes.
I could write a book about immoral capitalism and taking advantage of free markets.
You liberal lunatics missed my point: You are defending a huge corporation that evaded rules and tax payments because you like that they are woke.
I have more of a dog in this fight than you all. My company makes a mint off companies like Disney. You guys sit at a computer and act as their unpaid interns.
Do not care about Floridian tax law nor meddling corporations. I am amused that you all love the Disney Corporation and its billionaire investors/executives and millionaire actor employees.
(and yes, I know about the thousands of other employees; their company put themselves in the firing line, just like mine did when they broke SEC regulations; live by the sword, die by the sword).

 

[wallstreetguy]

So you support governmental retaliation against freedom of speech

Thanks for confirming

When a guy gets pulled over by the cops for speeding and says, Is this about the weed I have in the trunk?
he deserves the consequences.
Get it, Unpaid Disney Intern?

 

[butters]

Or pay their property taxes or go by Florida state regulations.
Corporations are considered individuals under the law. They have to pay their taxes and abide by the law.
Also, once they leave their lane, expect consequences. Isn't that what your lot has been doing for years? Trying to cancel anyone and everyone who disagrees with you?

cite all these things you claim to be true

and if you have a problem with 'special districts', let's hear your argument about The Villages, or any of the other 1,800 districts in Florida assigned as 'special' when it comes to taxation.

it's very simple: desantis signed this bill and is content to only disrupt bondholders, employees, the company that makes Florida a major attraction, banks, 2 gov't counties, the RCID, and put taxpayers from those 2 counties on the hook for thousands of dollars extra taxation ALL because Disney spoke out against an unfair discriminatory bill. If they'd have said nothing, this rescinding of state pledge would never have occurred. Clearly a case of Shut up and you'll be fine, speak out and face consequences.

 

[ll74]

When a guy gets pulled over by the cops for speeding and says, Is this about the weed I have in the trunk?
he deserves the consequences.
Get it, Unpaid Disney Intern?

Yah, its nothing like that.

The guy wouldn't get pulled over. He would tell the cop that he doesn't like the speed limit and then the cop would give the guy a ticket for talking.

Fixed it for ya.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I work on Wall Street. It is run by billionaire Democrats who use an army of lawyers, accountants, and various other experts to avoid paying any tax, fee or penalty they are supposed to pay. That is called rule evasion

You are lying right off the hop on this, based upon the bolded section of your post

 

[WillJ8787]

You are lying right off the hop on this, based upon the bolded section of your post

Is Mr. Anderson the Minnesota Apple Guy.com pretending to be from Wall Street now....I was on hiatus but it smells like Bobo.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Is Mr. Anderson the Minnesota Apple Guy.com pretending to be from Wall Street now....I was on hiatus but it smells like Bobo.

I don't think so, Bobo has just been banned again as dimmuBurger, and yesterday his Eaktron (spelling) got whacked. Not a good week for him...lol

 

[wallstreetguy]

This is insane. a bunch of dudes attacking on behalf of Disney. Bye.

 

[butters]

This is insane. a bunch of dudes attacking on behalf of Disney. Bye.

so you got nuthin'

as expected

 

[ll74]

This is insane. a bunch of dudes attacking on behalf of Disney. Bye.

You just feel bad because you believe the government should retaliate against Disney for their public statement and other people disagree. I can see why that feels like an attack

 

[Sean Renaud]

Okay caught up and that shits a bit dense for me but I think I understand the basics. If this goes through it will likely hurt Florida more than Disney by raising the taxes on the locals by a not insignificant amount.

If corporation are people doesn't that give them free speech. Even I don't believe money should be counted as speech. I'm certain entitles them to use actual voices no? This sounds VERY anti-1A to me since its obviously a retaliation not something they planned in advance.

For the record I do enjoy plenty of Disney products. Its pisses me off to some degree that they are one of six companies that own ALL the fucking media in the US. I don't think a single company should have the clout to tell a state to fuck right off but that's clearly not the issue today. The issue is the government clearly trying to violate Constitutional Rights to a person. Given how fucked up the SCOTUS are here it wouldn't shock me if they rule the Constitution doesn't apply to states and they are free to do as they will.

This should be a fun ride.

 

[pecksniff]

Isn't that what your lot has been doing for years? Trying to cancel anyone and everyone who disagrees with you?

Well, no, it isn't.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Other than our own Cooper who have we even canceled? I mean I didn't want Rosanne to have a show but I had nothing to do with anything.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

This is insane. a bunch of dudes attacking on behalf of Disney. Bye.

so you got nuthin'

as expected

*chuckles*
Got caught lying, tucked his tail and ran...yep typical Trumper there...

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Excerpts from Governor DeSantis’ victory declaration

“On Monday, I signed the law ending the Walt Disney Co.’s self-governing status over 43 square miles in central Florida, an area almost as big as Miami. Disney no longer has its own government. It has to live under the same laws as Universal Studios, SeaWorld and every other company in our state and is still on the hook for the old district’s municipal debt.

“Disney’s special arrangement, which dates to 1967, was an indefensible example of corporate welfare. It provided the company with favorable tax treatment, including the ability to assess its own property valuations and to enjoy the benefits of regional infrastructure improvements without paying taxes toward the projects. It exempted Disney from Florida’s building and fire-preven-tion codes. It even allowed Disney to build a nuclear power plant and to use eminent domain to seize private property outside the district’s boundaries. While special districts are common in Florida, Disney’s deal was conspicuous in the massive benefits it conferred. Disney’s self-governing status endured because the company’s unrivaled political power in Florida made its arrangement virtually untouchable.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-i-...iversal-esg-parents-choice-education-defa2506

 

[ll74]

Excerpts from Governor DeSantis’ victory declaration

“On Monday, I signed the law ending the Walt Disney Co.’s self-governing status over 43 square miles in central Florida, an area almost as big as Miami. Disney no longer has its own government. It has to live under the same laws as Universal Studios, SeaWorld and every other company in our state and is still on the hook for the old district’s municipal debt.

“Disney’s special arrangement, which dates to 1967, was an indefensible example of corporate welfare. It provided the company with favorable tax treatment, including the ability to assess its own property valuations and to enjoy the benefits of regional infrastructure improvements without paying taxes toward the projects. It exempted Disney from Florida’s building and fire-preven-tion codes. It even allowed Disney to build a nuclear power plant and to use eminent domain to seize private property outside the district’s boundaries. While special districts are common in Florida, Disney’s deal was conspicuous in the massive benefits it conferred. Disney’s self-governing status endured because the company’s unrivaled political power in Florida made its arrangement virtually untouchable.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-i-...iversal-esg-parents-choice-education-defa2506

Signed into law by a Republican both times

 

[DeluxAuto]

Excerpts from Governor DeSantis’ victory declaration

He bullied a defenseless mouse. Of course you worship at his alter, cultist.

 

[ll74]

It's great that one of the leading Republican candidates (not yet declared), the party of small government, continues to use government to get revenge on corporate America for their political positions

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

More from the Governor‘s declaration.

“Democrats often rail about corporations’ nefarious influence over politics and oppose favorable exceptions for big companies. Yet they supported keeping Disney’s special self-governing status. This confirms how much the modern left has jettisoned principle in favor of power. As long as large corpora-tions help advance the left’s woke agenda, the left is willing to do their bidding.”

 

[adrina]

Heh that just shows how little DeSantis and the conservatives actually understand Florida democrats.

In the meantime, he's using government as a tool for revenge.

 

[ll74]

More from the Governor‘s declaration.

“Democrats often rail about corporations’ nefarious influence over politics and oppose favorable exceptions for big companies. Yet they supported keeping Disney’s special self-governing status. This confirms how much the modern left has jettisoned principle in favor of power. As long as large corpora-tions help advance the left’s woke agenda, the left is willing to do their bidding.”

I favor the reversal of Citizens United but also favor the free market. If citizens don't like a business' political positions, they are free to choose another. As long as a business provides their services and employment practices equally, more power to them.

If the governor doesn't like corporations having political power beyond their advertisements and content/goods, he can also work towards reversing citizens united instead of performative ejaculatory and vengeful legislation.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

In addition to blowing up all the hysterical arguments and predictions we heard from the woke when DeSantis first announced his reforms - “suppression of free speech”, “abuse of government power“, “taxpayers will be on the hook for Disney bond debt”, “Disney will leave Florida” - the governor rightly calls out corporatist GOP politicians.

“In this environment, old-guard corporate Republicanism isn’t up to the task at hand. For decades, GOP elected officials have campaigned on free-market principles but governed as corporatists—support-ing subsidies, tax breaks and legislative carve-outs to confer special benefits on entrenched corporate interests. But policies that benefit corporate America don’t necessarily serve the interests of America’s people and economy.”

 

[ll74]

In addition to blowing up all the hysterical arguments and predictions we heard from the woke when DeSantis first announced his reforms - “suppression of free speech”, “abuse of government power“, “taxpayers will be on the hook for Disney bond debt”, “Disney will leave Florida” - the governor rightly calls out corporatist GOP politicians.

“In this environment, old-guard corporate Republicanism isn’t up to the task at hand. For decades, GOP elected officials have campaigned on free-market principles but governed as corporatists—support-ing subsidies, tax breaks and legislative carve-outs to confer special benefits on entrenched corporate interests. But policies that benefit corporate America don’t necessarily serve the interests of America’s people and economy.”

Before Disney took a public position on Florida law, did he propose any law changing Disney's control over this?

The answer is no. You're supporting government retaliation.