Do we wish to end the filibuster now?

[AceDesSpades]

*chuckle*

Mountain Sea Change

B-B-B-but that was only when we were in the m....

 

[AceDesSpades]

What was good is bad, was up is down, fair is foul and the bad guy won and got the girl.
Senile was sane, success touted as failure and failure triumphed.

Now, the wisdom of the Founders gains clarity,
in the eyes of the vanquished.

So prescient in death
as in life eternal.

 

[AceDesSpades]

That dead "charter of negative liberties" sprang back to life just in time to come to their

 

[Rebel5soul]

What was good is bad, was up is down, fair is foul and the bad guy won and got the girl.
Senile was sane, success touted as failure and failure triumphed.

Now, the wisdom of the Founders gains clarity,
in the eyes of the vanquished.

So prescient in death
as in life eternal.

Which will be rapidly forgotten if they ever get the majority back. That's how they roll.

 

[AceDesSpades]

stale crackers

 

[ll74]

Be careful what you wish for. The definition of an “effective filibuster” could be established by people who define it differently than you.

I've defined it before. We need a talking filibuster with a required threshold of Senators on the chamber at all times during it.

There needs to be work involved for the opposition, as it used to be.

 

[AceDesSpades]

Senators set the rules of the Senate, so run and make a difference! AllahuAkbar!!!

 

[Rebel5soul]

I've defined it before. We need a talking filibuster with a required threshold of Senators on the chamber at all times during it.

There needs to be work involved for the opposition, as it used to be.

We had that at one time and the democrats shit canned it because they couldn't get their way. Yeah buddy, smart people those crats.

 

[ll74]

We had that at one time and the democrats shit canned it because they couldn't get their way. Yeah buddy, smart people those crats.

We need one again. That's been obvious for a while....especially with nominations.

 

[AceDesSpades]

We had that at one time and the democrats shit canned it because they couldn't get their way. Yeah buddy, smart people those crats.

Just like they wanted to pack the court, so I say go for it Mr. President-former-elect...,

Pack it it like sardines. Make ID mandatory to vote.
Get men out of girl's sports.

2 for 3 ain't bad.
batting .666

 

[subdudeme13]

We had that at one time and the democrats shit canned it because they couldn't get their way. Yeah buddy, smart people those crats.

History may judge the fillibuster as undemocratic. When they got rid of it the idea was to make the Senate more efficeint so other matters could be handled. Where it went wrong was when Moscow Mitch did away with it for confirmation to the Supreme Court oh and then that hold of a year on Obama's appointment.
The issue now is will we survive 4 years of Trump undermining our Democracy. Putin has him aiming for the CIA and the military. I fear for anyone serving out county now. We had to pull an agent out of Moscow at the beinning of Trumps 1st term and then there were the papers in his little palace.

 

[AceDesSpades]

We need to take back some other powers too:

Over the past decade pundits have written much about how to reduce the polarization and rancor in America, and now after the re-election of Donald Trump we're sure to hear even more about civility and finding common ground. But there's one solution to partisan political sectarianism that doesn't require listening to your uncle's opinions about drag queens: reducing the power and importance of the presidency in American life.

To be clear, the need to rein in the executive branch did not suddenly appear when Trump was elected. The best day to limit executive power was yesterday, but today will do just as well. The plain fact is that Trump will re-enter an Oval Office that is more powerful than it has ever been—the beneficiary of decades of accumulated privileges ceded to the executive branch by an apathetic Congress and an unserious Supreme Court.


https://reason.com/2024/11/08/want-...mperature-make-the-presidency-less-important/

 

[Bray123]

The only point of the filibuster is to allow a sole person to defeat the will of the entire electorate. People wishing to keep it know that it's indefensible in a democracy. Even in a US style democracy.

The point of the Electoral College was to count black people as population for the purpose of determining the power of a State within Congress, whilst denying those people an actual vote. Thus states with large black populations had undue influence even after the war that was supposed to eradicate the power of states to permit slavery.

BuT hoW eLse coUld the FlY-oVer StaTes ruLe tHe cOUntry?

 

[HisArpy]

History may judge the fillibuster as undemocratic. When they got rid of it the idea was to make the Senate more efficeint so other matters could be handled. Where it went wrong was when Moscow Mitch did away with it for confirmation to the Supreme Court oh and then that hold of a year on Obama's appointment.
The issue now is will we survive 4 years of Trump undermining our Democracy. Putin has him aiming for the CIA and the military. I fear for anyone serving out county now. We had to pull an agent out of Moscow at the beinning of Trumps 1st term and then there were the papers in his little palace.

So what was good for the goose, wasn't supposed to be used by the gander? Because it's "unfair" to use your rules against you?

Grow up. Harry Reid fucked the Dems with Pelosi's help and you're just going to have to live with the result.

 

[AceDesSpades]

That is not the entire point...,

fuck

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bother?