Do Women Hate Men?

[sweetnpetite]

Thank you, Joe.


Jeffrysub, you said, "Well I certianly know that straight women hate men and that gay women don't care (why would they?)."

Straight women hate men!?!? WTF?

Please don't generalise like that. This straight woman adores men.


Lou

Hey Lou, I thought of you when I typed that in (did you miss it, he was responding to that comment made by me- trying to be smart ass and cool ) anywya- I thought of you when I typed it, and I just knew you'd be the first one to argue with it

The reason I said that is because feminists and lesbians are always being accused of being 'man haters' when usually hating men isn't even part of the equasion- were as many straight women 'hate' men- mainly because we have to deal with them. It's only a short leap from love to hate, and when you feel passionatly about someone or feel tht you want or need something from them (and they don't always want to give you whatever that might be) you're bound to feel 'hate' at some point. Not straight out all the time hate, but anger and frustration that leads you to sometimes feel like you hate the ones you love. (Does that make sence?)

It's only when we love them, or want to love them that we would bother to 'hate' them- that was my point- although I don't think anyone (lest of all the original poster) really 'got' that.

Like the line in Jerry Macquire- "It's true. Men *are* the enemy. But- but... I *love* the enemy."

 

[CharleyH]

Yeah, well.....that too.

Been there, done that.

As humans, not gender

 

[shereads]

Sometimes, even though we think we want commitment, and a deep relationship with someone, we're very ambivalent about that inside. As a way to compensate, we subconciously choose a partner that we know, on some level, won't give us that deep, committed relationship.

Another way to look at it is the self-fulfilling prophecy. We think it's going to go wrong, we're absolutely sure it will, and you will either sabotage it yourself, or choose someone inappropriate, thus making your "prophecy" come true, and validating the thought that "nothing I do turns out right."

Well said. If you find yourself with memories of more than one or two bitches or bastards as the case may be, it's time to ask why you - and they - are drawn to each other. Most of us have known people who are in one abusive relationship after another; men who always end up with unfaithful women; women who marry more than one alcoholic or wife-beater. Seen from the outside, it seems obvious. To the people involved, it's just bad luck. Recognizing that there's a pattern isn't easy, but it's easier than changing it. That can require changing not just the way you think but the way you feel; the kinds of people you feel attracted to.

It might not just be these Juanitas, you know. Is there some behavior you fall into once you're in a relationship, that brings out her worst? I've known couples who existed for years in a bitch-versus-victim relationship. The shared misery can be like a drug.

 

[wornoutkeyboard]

Wow..... do I hate men?

Do I hate hampsters being squished by basketballs?

These are deep, deep questions my friend!

The one thing I can tell you I dislike greatly (as much like Lou... I don't hate anyone....well....with the exception of this guy named Bill. I hope he gets fleas) is the struggle between wanting desperately to be committed (which I am) and not wanting to be committed.

I love everything about men.....until I snare him in my little trap. Sure...he is fun to toy with...but deep down inside does a dog only want one bone for the rest of his life? (Or girl/bone).

Yet at the same time...when I trap my prey....there is some frightening little chemical reaction that happens that makes me *think* I want to keep him and only him forever and ever.

Of course the high eventually wears off and last time it didn't wear off until after I woke up one morning with a ring on my finger.

Don't get me wrong... I love Mr. WOK....but I miss that thrill of kissing a guy for the first time or wondering what his naughty bits will taste like.

Do I hate men? No.
Do I resent them because they become predictable after the adrenaline wears off? Sure.

~WOK