Experts: Hillary Broke The Law

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Nice deflection. Disparage the people who bring the issue to light and ignore the guilty party.

So typical.

You mean like when someone points out an incidence of racism and are called racist for noticing?

 

[Busybody]

On cue, nigger you dee shows Miles to be correct

 

[Que]

Cue the usual suspects that insisted despite my laborious quoting of the relevant Federal statutes beginning with but not just the Federal Records Act that document retention is up to the discretion of the very people that may be embarrassed by their actions as revealed in official records which is any record of any description up to and including a cocktail napkin wherein an business of the government in the smallest degree of relevancy is discussed or notated.

As seen by the common illegal use of personal email accounts for official communications, the foot dragging, delay, obstruction and outright refusal when it has come to document production b this administration have always been a premeditated plan of theirs. They must have truly smirked when Obama bragged about this being "the most transparent administration in history" when they structured their communications from the beginning to be easily deleted and not subject to being backed up as required on government servers.

Every time anyone in the administration emailed such accounts from official ones they were knowingly breaking the law as well.

 

[Que]

The fact that Hillary, with her long history of flouting subpoenas and defiant obstruction of investigations, would do such a thing is not news. The fact that this administration was using such accounts to avoid oversight is not news.

What is noteworthy here is that those on the left are pointing it out. This is because they are so over-confidant about the message they are misinterpreting from Obama's unlikely 2012 re-election, they think they can go even more progressive than Hillary and get the win in 2016. The mistake the reluctance of the American public to fire the "historic" Obama with any endorsement of his policies or performance.

 

[Busybody]

A STATE WITHIN A STATE: Source: Top Clinton Aides Used Secret Email Accounts at State Dept.



Hillary Clinton is defending her use of a private email address, hosted at ClintonEmail.com, to conduct official State Department business by claiming that her emails were captured by official @state.gov accounts that other agency employees were instructed to use to contact her. But according to a knowledgeable source, at least two other top Clinton aides also used private email accounts to conduct government business—placing their official communications outside the scope of federal record-keeping regulations.

“Her top staffers used those Clinton email addresses” at the agency, said the source, who has worked with Clinton in the past. The source named two staffers in particular, Philippe Reines and Huma Abedin, who are said to have used private email addresses in the course of their agency duties. Reines served as deputy assistant secretary of state, and Abedin as Clinton’s deputy chief of staff. Both rank among Clinton’s most loyal confidantes, in and out of the State Department.

We were able to independently verify that Abedin used a ClintonEmail.com address at some point in time. There are several email addresses associated with Abedin’s name in records maintained by Lexis-Nexis; one of them is huma@clintonemail.com. An email sent to that address today went through without bouncing.


Hmm. Related: Oh the irony: Jay Carney, top Clinton advisor eluded to importance of Records Act. Well, for Republicans.

 

[Busybody]

while NIGGERS circle the wagon for CUNTCLINTON

Former CIA Director David Petraeus Prepares for Sentencing - ABC News http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/david-petraeus-cia-director-prepares-sentencing-29377263

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The Hillary drama has begun.

 

[Busybody]

The Hillary drama has begun.

seriously....the MSM will protect her


like THIS

ABC’s Jonathan Karl Tries To Rescue Hillary From Private Email Scandal With Story About Rep. Chaffetz Using Gmail… One Huge Problem, Law Doesn’t Apply To Congress…


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If only Jonathan Karl had access to this thing called “Google.”


(ABC News) – Hillary Clinton isn’t the only official who uses a non-government email address.

A business card obtained by ABC News shows that Rep. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, lists his Gmail address on his official House card.

After it was revealed on Tuesday that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton conducted all of her government business from personal email accounts, personal email has been the topic du jour, and Chaffetz is at the forefront.

ABC’s Jonathan Karl Makes A Jackass Out Of Himself With Story About Rep. Chaffetz Using Gmail…

 

[miles]

Nothing sticks to the Hildabeast. Get ready for the 2nd most unqualified, slimy, lying President in US history.

 

[Busybody]

for 8 yrs, it was protect the NIGGER at all costs and call everyone RACIST

for the next 8 it will be protect the CUNT at all costs and call everyone sexist

 

[miles]

The Beast is repugnant.

 

[Busybody]

to 45%

only

 

[Busybody]

According to AP, the Internet address for Hillary Clinton’s homebrew email server was registered to someone named Eric Hoteham. That name, however, “does not appear in public records databases, campaign contribution records or Internet background searches.”

We wrote this morning, “It’s time to find this Hoteham character — if that’s really his name — and get him under oath.”

Now someone calling himself “Eric Hoteham” has set up a Twitter account. He describes himself as “number 1 transparency advocate, internets expert, cattle futures aficionado, rose law alum.”

Impressive credentials!

This morning, he’s cheering on Hillary Clinton’s defenders:

 

[Tryharder62]

I love that the excuse for her doing this is that every body else is doing it. I felt like I should say the old "If your friends jumped off a bridge, would you too?" Maybe she would.

 

[Busybody]

I love that the excuse for her doing this is that every body else is doing it. I felt like I should say the old "If your friends jumped off a bridge, would you too?" Maybe she would.

everyone ISNT doing it

 

[about_average]

Mrs. Clinton did not have a government email address during her four-year tenure at the State Department.

How is that even possible?
Creating an email account should be an automated process that is part of the creation of the user's network ID.

Using a personal email account follows logically from not having a State Dept email account. The bigger question is why didn't she have a State Dept. account?

 

[Que]

It isn't quite an anagram because there are letters in Eric Hoteham that to not appear in H. Rodham Clinton, but you can see she thought she was being clever.

If she was simply using clintonemail.com for ease of keeping all of her emails together to make all of them easier to find and subpoena, she would have used Hillary@clintonemail.com

 

[Busybody]

How is that even possible?
Creating an email account should be an automated process that is part of the creation of the user's network ID.

Clintons are ABOVE the law

 

[Busybody]

If Trey Gowdy wants to get a hold of those Clinton e-mails, does he contact China or Russia first?

 

[Busybody]

remember how a ROCK was racist...and how long the MEDIA hounded Perry

remember how a HAIRCUT was HOMPHOBIC (55 yrs ago) and hounded Romney


yet this?

YAWN

No BIGGY


Hardball's Matthews Fails to See Big Deal About Hillary Emails




Hardball host Chris Matthews just doesn't get why Hillary Clinton's email scandal is all that big a deal.

During a segment with former Obama campaign strategist Jim Axelrod and former RNC chair Michael Steele, Matthews compared sending official government correspondence by personal email with getting tied into knots about using a government pen at home:









When you leave the government, I was a speechwriter years ago at the White House, you had to turn over all the speech drafts that you had written. All of them, even though you were proud of a couple of them, you were supposed to turn them all over. There was even a ridiculous, I thought, rule, you're not even to Xerox them. You are to turn them all over, all of your materials.

So I don't know what this formal custom, how often it's honored, how often it's not. It's almost like don't take your pens home and use them at home. I wonder if it's one of those rules.

David Axelrod, you've got experience with this. What did, do you think this is something worth the top of the fold of the New York Times? Hillary Clinton didn't use their email instead of her government email. Is this worthy of this kind of hootin' and hollerin'?

Of course, it's not that Hillary occasionally slipped up and from time to time used a personal email account to shoot official correspondence to a staffer or what not. At issue is the fact she conducted ALL her official email correspondence through a private email and hence the collection of her official correspondence for the record will be spotty at best. For a veteran political observer, Matthews either isn't paying attention or is deliberately obfuscating.

But wait, there's more. Later in the program, during a separate panel discussion, Matthews seemed to suggest that Mrs. Clinton perhaps had no final say over whether or not she had a State Department-issued email account:


RON FOURNIER: When you know that you're seen as someone who um, believes the ends justify the means and who will cut any corner to get ahead, who is not authentic, who plays by your own set of rules, why would you do things like not have a public email and have all your emails secretive? Why would you do something like taking money from foreign countries that support --

CHRIS MATTHEWS: That wasn't only her decision.

FOURNIER: She's the one who's running for president. It's her decision. She's taken money from countries that suppress women and support terrorism. That's the kind of thing that either you're really stupid -- and she's a really bright woman -- or you're, you're um, have some basic blind spots, which is what I think it is, they just don't see how bad this stuff is, or there's a part of you who, maybe you just don't want to do this [run for president].

Moments later, as Bloomberg's Jonathan Allen reminded the audience that Hillary's official correspondence is, essentially "our emails" as American taxpayers, Matthews shot back:


Wait a minute! Suppose you work at the State Department and you happen to be Secretary of State, which is a fabulous position to hold, and you write an email to your husband, "Bill, I'll see you at Nora's, Cafe Nora for breakfast.... Why would all that get in the mill of government documents?

"It doesn't have to," Allen replied. "Honestly, if you look at the way this is set up, it was set up with a forethought to evade the spirit of the open records laws. It's just, it's the pattern of almost paranoia."

Seeking the lower the bar, Matthews focused on exonerating Hillary from criminal malfeasance, if not ethical transgression, asking Martin, "What was the law at the time she did this? I thought that the law didn't come into effect until after [she served as Secretary of State]."

Moments later, Matthews repeated his earlier complaint to Steele and Axelrod about the New York Times coverage of the scandal. Allen's response and the agreement by the rest of the panel seems to have stunned Matthews:


MATTHEWS: So you don't believe this story's big enough to be on the top of the New York Times this morning?

ALLEN: On one day? Sure. Do I think it's going to cost her the presidency, no? The trait might be a problem. The paranoia.

MATTHEWS: The paranoia?

RON FOURNIER: Oh yeah! That's why she did this. She's paranoid.

MATTHEWS: OK, OK. Heh, do you want to say a non-paranoia vote here? I've got two paranoids, you sure you want--?

SUSAN PAGE, USA Today: Clinton defenders will say we jump on things about them that we would let go by with somebody else.... But the fact is she knows that she's subjected to a standard and therefore it shouldn't be a surprise.

MATTHEWS: It's a chicken and egg thing.

FOURNIER: They have set that standard.

- See more at: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-sh...eal-about-hillary-emails#sthash.sDRyBCu3.dpuf

 

[Que]

How is that even possible?
Creating an email account should be an automated process that is part of the creation of the user's network ID.

Using a personal email account follows logically from not having a State Dept email account. The bigger question is why didn't she have a State Dept. account?

Because she knows how gov't email works and the youthful yes-men surrounding him and Obama himself were not astute enough to realize she was opting out of using any government servers because she planned to run for president, possibly as soon as 2012, and did not want her opposition to have access to her communications.

 

[Busybody]

HRC was so determined to keep secrets from US citizens that she made it easy for foreign intel ops to steal them. http://bgell.me/18jWkku

 

[Busybody]

It doesn’t matter if Hillary was using an official State Department account, say her defenders, so long as the people she was e-mailing at State were using official accounts. After all, her messages will show up in the records of their accounts. What if they weren’t using official accounts (at least sometimes) either?

 

[cowslinger64]

The problem here is we have all the right wingers droning on about this subject...when yesterday a much greater wrongdoing took place where Boner may have broken the law inviting a foreign prime minister to lecture the US CONGRESS on what our foreign policy should be. Not only was the thread about the possible lawbreaking completely skipped....but the fact that the Israeli PM trashed our government and was given numerous standing ovations and rounds of applause, was actually thought to be a good thing. What the hell is wrong with you people?

So you rw fucks have shown really what you think... it's only about the things far less important that matter to you.. whether true or not, as long as it's a dig against any politician that doesn't suit your purpose.


IF they find she's acted improperly, she should pay the penalty..and they need to find ALL the politicians doing it then, and anyone that thinks she's the only one, is being delusional.

 

[Que]

In comments on articles about this the administration apologists are kicking into full-court-press Learner-gate mode. The favorite talking point appears to be, "Not ALL emails rise to the level of records required to be retained by law."

Sure, there is probably no requirement to keep an email asking a co-worker what to bring them back from chipotle. As if that is what we are talking about. Nearly all communications are going to touch on some portion of government activity and ALL of those must be retained and ALL are discoverable. If you are aware that someone is looking into your associations with certain individuals even the chipotle email destruction is obstruction.