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RobDownSouth said:
15 Launches PER MONTH?
Well, THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING!

Wait....no...no it doesn't change a thing.

You're comparing SpaceX's 15 Launches per month to the FAA's 1.35 million (45,000/per day times 30 days) flights per month and insinuate they are somehow equivalent?

No, nobody is going to buy that.

And SpaceX has a "safety" record of 95.24%?

If the FAA had that sort of safety record, it would mean 42858 planes landed safely every day and 2,142 crashes.
Let's be conservative here and assume 50 fatalities per crash.....that would mean 107,100 deaths every single day.
That's almost 40 million deaths per year.
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My response was aimed at your incorrect statement, "SpaceX fires a rocket up maybe 5 or 6 times a year." Nothing more.
 
Rightguide said:
My response was aimed at your incorrect statement, "SpaceX fires a rocket up maybe 5 or 6 times a year." Nothing more.
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'Nothing more"?

Given the recent two "unexpected rapid disassembly" events on liftoff, are you still confident in your 95.24% success rate for the year claim?
 
Rightguide said:
How many NASA such events in history have done the same?
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Probably the Challenger disaster, that's the only one i can think of off the top of my head.

The Apollo One disaster happened on the launch pad when it caught fire but I don't believe it impacted commercial airlines.
 
RobDownSouth said:
'Nothing more"?

Given the recent two "unexpected rapid disassembly" events on liftoff, are you still confident in your 95.24% success rate for the year claim?
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It's obvious this event might change that percentage depending on the success or failure of the rest of launches scheduled this year.
 
RobDownSouth said:
Probably the Challenger disaster, that's the only one i can think of off the top of my head.

The Apollo One disaster happened on the launch pad when it caught fire but I don't believe it impacted commercial airlines.
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From a search:
  • Delta Rocket Family: From 1960 to 2024, over 300 Delta rockets were launched, achieving a 95% success rate. This implies approximately 15 failures over that period.
    en.wikipedia.org

  • Atlas V Launches: As of June 2024, the Atlas V had completed 100 launches since its first in August 2002, with a 100% mission success rate and a 99% vehicle success rate. Notably, on June 15, 2007, an anomaly occurred when the Centaur upper stage's engine shut down early, leading to a lower-than-intended orbit.
    en.wikipedia.org

  • 2022 Launch Statistics: In 2022, there were 186 orbital launch attempts globally, with 178 successes, 7 failures, and 1 partial failure. While these figures encompass all global launches, NASA's Artemis I mission, part of the Space Launch System (SLS) program, was among the successful launches that year.
    en.wikipedia.org

This amount is far from complete but I don't have the time right now to invest in further research.
 
Rightguide said:

From a search:
  • Delta Rocket Family: From 1960 to 2024, over 300 Delta rockets were launched, achieving a 95% success rate. This implies approximately 15 failures over that period.
    en.wikipedia.org

  • Atlas V Launches: As of June 2024, the Atlas V had completed 100 launches since its first in August 2002, with a 100% mission success rate and a 99% vehicle success rate. Notably, on June 15, 2007, an anomaly occurred when the Centaur upper stage's engine shut down early, leading to a lower-than-intended orbit.
    en.wikipedia.org

  • 2022 Launch Statistics: In 2022, there were 186 orbital launch attempts globally, with 178 successes, 7 failures, and 1 partial failure. While these figures encompass all global launches, NASA's Artemis I mission, part of the Space Launch System (SLS) program, was among the successful launches that year.
    en.wikipedia.org

This amount is far from complete but I don't have the time right now to invest in further research.
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Information is not knowledge.
 
RobDownSouth said:
Probably the Challenger disaster, that's the only one i can think of off the top of my head.

The Apollo One disaster happened on the launch pad when it caught fire but I don't believe it impacted commercial airlines.
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RobDownSouth said:
Probably the Challenger disaster, that's the only one i can think of off the top of my head.

The Apollo One disaster happened on the launch pad when it caught fire but I don't believe it impacted commercial airlines.
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You might want to read the book The Right Stuff…

Reading probably isn’t your forte though so just watch the movie.

WARNING! This film contains multiple examples of heroism, patriotism, and all around exceptional Americans. About the only negative portrayal is a democrat politician! 🤣

Better yet. Just revel in your ignorance.
 
Musk managed to shut down a vast area of airspace to civilian flights without having to fire a single FAA controller. That's genius.
 
HumpDayHoratio said:
You might want to read the book The Right Stuff…

Reading probably isn’t your forte though so just watch the movie.

WARNING! This film contains multiple examples of heroism, patriotism, and all around exceptional Americans. About the only negative portrayal is a democrat politician! 🤣

Better yet. Just revel in your ignorance.
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Actually, I have read The Right Stuff AND have seen the movie.
It deals with the Mercury space program and also Chuck Yeager breaking the sound barrier.
And your point is?
Assuming you have one?
 
Bn2f said:
I needed someone to explain to me your dumb, obscure memes.
You're not funny.
Your memes suck.
Your mom hates you.
Who sells you your stash of meth that's supposedly better?
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If you felt the need to post about it. It most certainly hit the mark.😉

I like you though Bn2…any fan of the Cure is a friend of mine. 😘
 
RobDownSouth said:
Actually, I have read The Right Stuff AND have seen the movie.
It deals with the Mercury space program and also Chuck Yeager breaking the sound barrier.
And your point is?
Assuming you have one?
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The point is, NASA had a lot of setbacks and blown up rockets in the beginning of the space race, but you knew that if, and that’s a big IF, you actually read the book or saw the film.

I probably should have included MoonShot, a PBS special from around ‘92ish or so. It delves a little deeper into the troubles NASA had.

All this of course is at the tip of yer little stubby fingers on this thing called the Interweb. Let yer fingers do the walk’n…as an old ad went…
 
Bray123 said:
Musk managed to shut down a vast area of airspace to civilian flights without having to fire a single FAA controller. That's genius.
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Airspace gets “shut down” everyday. Whether from the Finger of God or the finger of launch control…accident or no accident.
 
Yes, air safety sure did go south when Trump took over. As did consumer prices, domestic tranquility, and international affairs.

With all that in mind, it makes sense that he would appoint the guy who specializes in exploding rockets and cutesy cyber "trucks" that spend more time being towed than towing anything.

^^^MAGA "logic".
 
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