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gotsnowgotslush said:
A fifth fire damages a church.
The Saint Louis police make no arrests

The first fire was set, October 8, 2015


October 18 2015


A fire early Saturday damaged the exterior of a church in northwest St. Louis, the fifth such fire in barely more than a week.

The fire was reported about 4 a.m. at New Life Missionary Baptist Church, 4569 Plover Avenue, said Capt. Garon Mosby of the St. Louis Fire Department. It damaged the front door and vinyl facade of the small, one-story frame church just north of Interstate 70.

The three other fires, also apparently set at front doors, occurred at churches within a few blocks of Goodfellow Boulevard. Local and federal arson detectives are investigating the fires. Mosby said it appears the fires are connected.



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Location is telling, though.
 
gotsnowgotslush said:
A fifth fire damages a church.
The Saint Louis police make no arrests

The first fire was set, October 8, 2015


October 18 2015


A fire early Saturday damaged the exterior of a church in northwest St. Louis, the fifth such fire in barely more than a week.

The fire was reported about 4 a.m. at New Life Missionary Baptist Church, 4569 Plover Avenue, said Capt. Garon Mosby of the St. Louis Fire Department. It damaged the front door and vinyl facade of the small, one-story frame church just north of Interstate 70.

The three other fires, also apparently set at front doors, occurred at churches within a few blocks of Goodfellow Boulevard. Local and federal arson detectives are investigating the fires. Mosby said it appears the fires are connected.



http://www.stltoday.com/
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Will probably get swept under the rug, I bet.
 
Federal government relies on local police departments to voluntarily report on the people they kill, that system will prove unreliable and worthless. This is what the FBI is now discovering.



As the Guardian reports, the federal government has no record of the deaths of Tamir Rice, John Crawford, Eric Garner and other homicides by police because most law enforcement agencies refuse to supply the data. Last year, only 224 of the 18,000 police departments across the country reported a fatal shooting to the FBI, according to the Guardian




“We have no way of knowing how many incidents may have been omitted,” said Stephen Fischer, a spokesman for the FBI, noting exclusions were inevitable due to the voluntary nature of the program.


http://atlantablackstar.com/2015/10...-missing-from-fbi-records-of-police-killings/



http://atlantablackstar.com/2015/10...-missing-from-fbi-records-of-police-killings/


We can’t talk about crime in the same way, especially in the high-stakes incidents when your officers have to use force.”

The FBI has a troubled past, in which it monitored and infiltrated civil rights and Black nationalist groups, orchestrated the assassination and imprisonment of Black leadership, and decimated the Black community through J. Edgar Hoover’s COINTELPRO program.

The government maintained copious records of innocent people it targeted for destruction and defamation, yet today is missing simple records on Black people killed by law enforcement because it depends on reluctant, non-cooperative police departments to report on their own wrongdoing.
 
I can't speak for Ferguson, but having had family in the Baltimore area, the social degradation that existed in the ghettoes there was news to me in the same sense that the sun setting in the west was. A few of those hoods have lesser life expectancies than North Korea. :(

What I fear is going to happen is that this'll go away, flame up a few years from now again, and go away... it'll go on in cycles, until one day something goes too far and we have something worse.
 
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I can't speak for Ferguson, but having had family in the Baltimore area, the social degradation that existed in the ghettoes there was news to me in the same sense that the sun setting in the west was. A few of those hoods have lesser life expectancies than North Korea. :(

What I fear is going to happen is that this'll go away, flame up a few years from now again, and go away... it'll go on in cycles, until one day something goes too far and we have something worse.
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Well, there is a possible solution, but it would be a hard sell politically: Get the ghetto residents out of the ghetto and out of the high-rise project housing, and into smaller project-housing units scattered throughout the more prosperous neighborhoods. The social problem is not poverty, it is concentrations of poverty, neighborhoods and projects where kids grow up learning nothing but socially dysfunctional behaviors. Put them in meager apartment but in a prosperous neighborhood and they can attend better-funded schools, associate with kids whose parents work for a living, not have crime in front of their eyes every day, etc., then they have a better chance of growing up to be productive and law-abiding citizens. Of course the established residents might consider them dangerous -- but, the local police know where all those small project-housing units are and who lives in them. In the 'hood, a kid can snatch a purse and fade into the background; he can't do that in the 'burbs, he probably won't offend more than once.
 
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So apparently we can't even call a tow truck to come help us fix a flat without being executed now. Police spin is already in motion, naturally.

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Read that last one. Read how we always have to pedigree and verify our fucking humanity to the world to show we didn't deserve death, but it's never ever enough:

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Cops say 'armed' Florida church musician Corey Jones killed by police officer after car breaks down along I-95

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/fla-church-musician-killed-side-road-article-1.2402760

#CoreyJones
#BlackLivesMatter
 
gotsnowgotslush said:
Federal government relies on local police departments to voluntarily report on the people they kill, that system will prove unreliable and worthless. This is what the FBI is now discovering.



As the Guardian reports, the federal government has no record of the deaths of Tamir Rice, John Crawford, Eric Garner and other homicides by police because most law enforcement agencies refuse to supply the data. Last year, only 224 of the 18,000 police departments across the country reported a fatal shooting to the FBI, according to the Guardian




“We have no way of knowing how many incidents may have been omitted,” said Stephen Fischer, a spokesman for the FBI, noting exclusions were inevitable due to the voluntary nature of the program.


http://atlantablackstar.com/2015/10...-missing-from-fbi-records-of-police-killings/



http://atlantablackstar.com/2015/10...-missing-from-fbi-records-of-police-killings/


We can’t talk about crime in the same way, especially in the high-stakes incidents when your officers have to use force.”

The FBI has a troubled past, in which it monitored and infiltrated civil rights and Black nationalist groups, orchestrated the assassination and imprisonment of Black leadership, and decimated the Black community through J. Edgar Hoover’s COINTELPRO program.

The government maintained copious records of innocent people it targeted for destruction and defamation, yet today is missing simple records on Black people killed by law enforcement because it depends on reluctant, non-cooperative police departments to report on their own wrongdoing.
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Can you prove any of that? :confused:
 
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Anyone in the Joliet IL area, be wary of racist Officer Michael Pauly. Record your encounter.

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A wife of a cop is using her husband's resources to harass people

#andiepauly

#michaelpauly
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Wait, she think Tamir was that tall and big at 12?
 
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A young black girl is attacked by a police officer in class. The video takes place at Spring Valley High School in South Carolina.

Original post is here: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10153776356965407&id=507750406&_rdr
 
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13 YEAR OLD GIRL WASN’T THE FIRST: OFFICER BEN FIELDS HAS A HISTORY OF TARGETING AND VIOLENTLY ATTACKING MOSTLY BLACK PEOPLE FOR MINOR INFRACTIONS

Students have known about this violent cop, Ben Fields, for years. And if the students knew, then the teachers knew. And unsurprisingly, this school has a high student population of black kids (such violence towards students wouldn’t be tolerated at a posh white school). Cops with histories of violence shouldn’t be allowed to remain cops.

And this seems like a good time to remind everyone that black girls are disproportionately the most targeted group for suspensions and school discipline. Period.

http://odinsblog.tumblr.com/post/121802274692/ninety-percent-of-all-girls-subject-to-expulsion

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/15/black-women-race-gender_n_6328456.html
 
“Fox & Friends” guest: There hasn’t been any police brutality in America since the 1960s.

On “Fox & Friends” Monday morning, co-host Brian Kilmeade welcomed in Fox News’ unofficial police brutality correspondent, Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke, to discuss the anti-police brutality protests held in New York City over the weekend and Clarke didn’t disappoint, claiming “there is no police brutality in America — we ended that in the ’60s.”

Clarke was responding to Kilmeade’s suggestion that liberal politicians — including President Barack Obama — are priming these protesters with false narratives. Despite the fact that he was sharing the screen with former NYPD detective Rod Wheeler — who minutes earlier played footage he’d taken at the anti-police brutality march in which protesters were blaming the president — Kilmeade and Clarke were adamant about who is empowering what Clarke referred to as “sub-human creeps.”

“The president of the United States knows better, he’s playing the race game, he’s playing race politics,” Clarke said. “Shame on him, he’s been very divisive for this country.”

Earlier in the interview, Clarke even advocated that police shouldn’t protect the protesters, and allow them to “clash’ with local businesses and members of the community.

“Then,” Clarke added, “the police can show up and arrest these sub-human creeps for creating a disturbance.”

Former Det. Wheeler seemed unimpressed with this line of thought, and took pains to note the professionalism of the NYPD in policing a protest in which they were themselves the target. He also noted that he believes the #BlackLivesMatter movement “actually matters, what they’re protesting is valid — it’s just the way that they’re going about doing it is completely wrong.”

“It’s not valid,” Clarke replied. “You’re contributing to the problem. Show me the research that demonstrates that lie that law enforcement officers use an inordinate amount of force against black people. Black people use an inordinate amount of force against themselves.”
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BULLY: Stop hitting yourself! *POW* Stop hitting yourself! *POW*
 
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Success in getting a permit for a legal protest march.
Check.
Peaceful, orderly, non- violent protest.
Check.
Protest route planned and approved.
Check.
Rally points planned and approved.
Check.

October 26, 2015

After Tarantino gave a brief speech at the #RiseUpOctober rally in Washington Square Park on Saturday, the head of the NYPD's largest union called the director a "cop-hater," and asked his members to stop watching Tarantino's movies.

October 25, 2015

Quentin Tarantino, who flew in for the event from California, was one of the featured speakers, along with Cornel West:

"When I see murders, I do not stand by," Tarantino said. "I have to call a murder a murder and I have to call the murderers the murderers."

I'm a human being with a conscience," he told a crowd of over 300 protesters. "And if you believe there's murder going on then you need to rise up and stand up against it. I'm here to say I'm on the side of the murdered."


When asked by the Post about the timing of the rally—coming less than a week after the fatal shooting of Officer Randolph Holder—Tarantino said, "It’s like this: It’s unfortunate timing, but we’ve flown in all these families to go and tell their stories...That cop that was killed, that’s a tragedy, too."

http://gothamist.com/2015/10/25/video_11_people_arrested_during_ris.php


Why did it take over 40 minutes for an ambulance to reach a victim of police brutality ?

While the NYPD was able to maneuver multiple vehicles down the block to arrest the protesters, an ambulance did not arrive for Johnson for more than 40 minutes.

https://photographyisnotacrime.com/...riseupoctober-march-against-police-brutality/


The NYPD violently arrested a peaceful protester holding his two-year-old child on his shoulders Saturday, allegedly for standing on a park bench.

The NYPD arresting the man who had his child on his shoulders, throwing him to the ground and stomping on him.

Police arrest 70 year old grandmother.

Five protesters arrested on 5th Avenue. Kettled, trapped, set up, and violently arrested.

Six protesters arrested in Times Square. Protesters not permitted to speak the names of those murdered by police.


Why are police so interested in shutting down a protest, and cutting off free speech with every entrapment technique, every violence based tactic, every high tech weapon available ?


Protests are effective in getting the message and information out to the public.

Police are getting arrested for unlawful use of deadly force, in higher numbers than ever before.
 
Is this the absolute truth ?


"No, I've never seen him."


Exactly three weeks after the first fire, a 35-year-old black man with a history of mental illness and law-breaking was charged in two of the attacks and identified as a suspect in the other five. Bethel's pastor Thomas looked at the mugshot of David Lopez Jackson, his eyes passing over the crown tattooed in the middle of the suspect's forehead and the flames along his collarbone. Jackson's mother lives less than three blocks from the church.


Nearly 200 people on October 21 filled Northside for a prayer vigil. Mayor Francis Slay, metro police chief Sam Dotson, county police chief Jon Belmar and fire chief Dennis Jenkerson all took seats under the sanctuary's vaulted ceilings. By then, six churches had been hit by arsonists. The fact that five had primarily black congregations was not lost on the assembly.

As Dotson walked to the pulpit, a bearded white guy shouted, "Black lives matter, as you know, Chief Dotson. He's got to know that. He's got to say that." His voice began to trail off as heads turned.



That night, officers had the corner of Lillian Avenue and Wilborn Drive blocked off when Thomas arrived, but they waved him through. It was a nightmare scene.

The strobing lights of fire trucks bounced off Bethel's walls. Thomas could make out three or four patrol cars, another three or four fire engines and a police bomb-squad unit. Federal agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives soon joined them.

The side door facing the vacant houses across the street was charred and broken where firefighters had forced their way inside. Smoke had stained the wall above a sooty black.

Thomas remembered feeling shock, and then relief, when he learned only the door had burned. A cop told the 47-year-old pastor someone had leaned a phone book against the entrance, sprayed the door with a flammable liquid and set it on fire.

In the confusion, Thomas kept wondering why anyone would try to burn their church.

"We don't have any enemies," he said later. "At least, not that I know of."

The fire was on a Thursday night, and Thomas decided to cancel that Sunday's services to focus on getting the church boarded up and insurance paperwork started. He originally assumed the fire was some sort of terrible teenage prank, but he began to suspect darker forces were at work.

"We say 'the enemy,'" Thomas explained. "Satan has to use a man."


Whoever this is, it's someone who can be around a church at four o'clock in the afternoon and not attract undue attention," Williams said in the days before Jackson's arrest. "And you have to have someone who can be away from home at four in the morning."

And the fire setter's message wouldn't necessarily be easy to understand. A special subtype of arsonist, a revenge seeker, cares little for attention or even clarity.

"What's fascinating about revenge-seeking arsonists is they're teaching people a lesson, and it never matters to them if anyone ever knows, that anyone ever realizes they're the ones sending the message," she says.



October 22

The first officers found the doors to Filipiak's former home bathed in the light of flames.

Jenkerson, looking exasperated in the early morning dark, told reporters the fire was in a "similar style" to the previous six at churches to the north.

"It's very disturbing," the fire chief said.

The damage was once again confined to burned doors and the smell of smoke thanks to a quick response. Father Dale Wunderlich climbed the stairs hours later and bent his face close to the black ash.


October 24, two days after the seventh and final fire, Jackson's mother became frightened enough of him to call 911. Shortly after 11 p.m. that Saturday, Linda Jackson told a county dispatcher she smelled a "strong odor of gas" at her house on Wilborn Drive.

"Believes it might be related to her 35 yr old schizophrenic son David Jackson who threatened to harm her, was at the house approx 15 min ago," the incident report from that night says.

She gave police officers a description of what he was driving. It was a silver Lincoln Continental with a black driver's side door — a two-tone, older-model sedan.

Jackson had in recent months lived farther north in the Glasgow Village. His adopted neighborhood in the 200 block of Presley Drive is full of nicely maintained one-story houses with lawns mowed to golf-course lengths. The house where Jackson lived was the exception. Neighbors say it's hard to tell who lives there, because cars and people come and go all day and night. Jackson was just one face among many.

"I don't mess with them," says 53-year-old neighbor Marlene Holloway. "I wish they were gone."


Three weeks after the first fire at Bethel, law-enforcement officers quietly took their suspect into custody on Thursday, October 29. They found a partially full gas can in his car along with an empty Thermos that still had the whiff of

Jackson stared placidly at the camera in his booking photo, almost disappearing behind his ominous tattoos. A judge set bond at $75,000.

There seemed a particular meanness to the fire at New Life, the fifth church targeted in the attacks. The arsonist splashed the gasoline on the door as usual, but this time he poured some through the mail slot before lighting the blaze. As a result, the flames raced skyward and cut sideways across the ceiling. The fire burned so hot it melted the siding. Firefighters had to rip down the plaster and lath inside as they chased the flames over their heads.

Pastor Triggs arrived about 5 a.m. as the building smoldered in front of him. The smell of smoke and chemicals stung his nose.

"It's a scent that's just unique," Triggs says. "That smell will always be singed in my memory."

He thinks about Jackson. Someone missed an opportunity with him, he reasons. The eyes tinged red in his mug shot. Tattooed symbols across his face and neck.

"When I look at him, my heart hurts for him, because who really knows what drove him to become the person he is?" Triggs says. "What happened to this person that made him so hateful toward the church?"

http://www.riverfronttimes.com/


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Religious delusions, religious hysteria, and Schizophrenia ?
Who would ever lend any credence, to that ?
 
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gotsnowgotslush said:
Success in getting a permit for a legal protest march.
Check.
Peaceful, orderly, non- violent protest.
Check.
Protest route planned and approved.
Check.
Rally points planned and approved.
Check.

October 26, 2015

After Tarantino gave a brief speech at the #RiseUpOctober rally in Washington Square Park on Saturday, the head of the NYPD's largest union called the director a "cop-hater," and asked his members to stop watching Tarantino's movies.

October 25, 2015

Quentin Tarantino, who flew in for the event from California, was one of the featured speakers, along with Cornel West:

"When I see murders, I do not stand by," Tarantino said. "I have to call a murder a murder and I have to call the murderers the murderers."

I'm a human being with a conscience," he told a crowd of over 300 protesters. "And if you believe there's murder going on then you need to rise up and stand up against it. I'm here to say I'm on the side of the murdered."


When asked by the Post about the timing of the rally—coming less than a week after the fatal shooting of Officer Randolph Holder—Tarantino said, "It’s like this: It’s unfortunate timing, but we’ve flown in all these families to go and tell their stories...That cop that was killed, that’s a tragedy, too."

http://gothamist.com/2015/10/25/video_11_people_arrested_during_ris.php


Why did it take over 40 minutes for an ambulance to reach a victim of police brutality ?

While the NYPD was able to maneuver multiple vehicles down the block to arrest the protesters, an ambulance did not arrive for Johnson for more than 40 minutes.

https://photographyisnotacrime.com/...riseupoctober-march-against-police-brutality/


The NYPD violently arrested a peaceful protester holding his two-year-old child on his shoulders Saturday, allegedly for standing on a park bench.

The NYPD arresting the man who had his child on his shoulders, throwing him to the ground and stomping on him.

Police arrest 70 year old grandmother.

Five protesters arrested on 5th Avenue. Kettled, trapped, set up, and violently arrested.

Six protesters arrested in Times Square. Protesters not permitted to speak the names of those murdered by police.


Why are police so interested in shutting down a protest, and cutting off free speech with every entrapment technique, every violence based tactic, every high tech weapon available ?


Protests are effective in getting the message and information out to the public.

Police are getting arrested for unlawful use of deadly force, in higher numbers than ever before.
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Crazy when you can't even exercise your right and freedom to protest properly. When it's about them, that is.
 
Tim Wolfe resigns as University of Missouri system president

November 9, 2015

University of Missouri System president Tim Wolfe abruptly announced his resignation Monday morning amid strong criticism of his leadership in handling issues of race.

Wolfe's resignation comes after members of the Mizzou football team said Saturday night they would not participate in any football-related activities until Wolfe was removed or resigned. The team members' action was in support of a student holding a hunger strike to protest Wolfe's leadership on racial issues.


The football players said that they were standing in solidarity with the Concerned Student 1950 movement, which has for months now called on the university to seriously address systemic racism on campus.


In October, black students staged a protest along the homecoming parade route. They formed a chain in front of the president's car chanting, "It's our duty to fight for our freedom!"

Wolfe said nothing to the students and when police removed the students from the street, the crowd erupted in applause. Some of the protesters cried.



http://news.stlpublicradio.org/post...-resigns-university-missouri-system-president

Tim Wolfe was confronted by a group of students outside a fundraiser in Kansas City. They asked him what he thought systematic oppression was.

"I will give you an answer and I'm sure it will be a wrong answer," he said. The students pressed him and he eventually relented: "Systematic oppression is because you don't believe that you have the equal opportunity for success."

The protesters erupted in disbelief. The words "you don't believe" stung. "Did you just blame us for systematic oppression?" one of them asked, as Wolfe walked away.

A day later, the student athletes announced their strike.


http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...rike-to-demand-ouster-of-university-president
 
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