Fondling women any thoughts?

[Dearelliot]

Over the years...I have known many women...who accept fondling.."When done in good taste" if that is at all gramatically correct. I agree a man does not have the right to "fondle" but he has the right to suggest that he wishes to ask..as in when talking to a woman say at a party where closeness seems fitting...not at work or in a store. If her body language allows, I start by touching the arm lightly slowly carefully...allowing her all the time to step back a bit...as I then accept her decision. If she seems to have accepted the closeness I then continue...I myself think of this as breast worship, and in that way associate it with BDSM..Yes it would be great if she knelt and proceeded to perform...right there at the party but of course thats not going to happen...so I appreciate small favors.
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[Luna_Bella]

Personally, I accept that you may touch my arms does not give you permission to fondle or grab at me in anyway.
I am a touchy feely person, I like my hair touched, which happens quite often having very long curly hair, people seem facinated by it, I enjoy hugs( by people who I am familiar with) But a stranger trying to fondle me will, on the spot be punched, lol the offender usually expects a slap, a punch is much more effective and insulting

 

[Dearelliot]

Well Im sorry I didnt spend more and more and mopre time with each step...necessary for some who presume the worse ......I like to touch the arms first, i allow my hands to get closer to the target..but I dont touch I make the woman well aware of where Im asking to go...I am obvious to a fault..but

I do not associate with any woman at all ever at a party or in any social way who would be so upset at being touched on the breast that they feel they have the right to punch..those ladies live their life among their own kind. I associate with a different kind of women..so we would never meet.. I suppose one might add.."thankfully" well probably so ..We should all associate with our own kind...but there is no need to in any way negatively describe those who disagree with ones own attitude..all have the right to live their own lives..as they see fit

I recall being at a hot tub event last year all nude of course...Reni (my wife) kissed a fellow on the forehead and he gently cupped her naked breasts and she stepped back from him saying "oh no.." of course he apologized and was embarrassed..Reni said ...please dont worry about it.....its not the first time Ive been felt up..

 

[bailadora]

Well Im sorry I didnt spend more and more and mopre time with each step...necessary for some who presume the worse ......

<snip>...but there is no need to in any way negatively describe those who disagree with ones own attitude..all have the right to live their own lives..as they see fit..

Dude...your thread title includes the words "any thoughts" and then you have the nerve to get pissy when someone disagrees with you? HT is NOT the place to hang out if all you are after is validation of your position. HT'ers are going to tell you what they really think, not necessarily what you want to hear.If you don't really want to know, then don't ask.

For what it's worth, I'm with Luna Bella on this one...just because someone has permission to touch me on the arms does not give them leave to assume they have the right to touch me anywhere else. Unless I'm romanticly involved with someone, they better damn well keep their hands to themselves beyond a friendly hug or a quick peck on the cheek. But that's just me. Where the boundaries lie is going to vary from individual to individual.

 

[kara24]

Totally agree, just because I dont ask you to remove your hand from my arm doesnt mean you can grab my breast! Wait for the invitation!

 

[Cattypuss]

This thread is creeping me out big-time.

 

[Eilan]

I'm not sure how this is a How-To thread, but I have thoughts.

This is really hot, actually. If we were in a crowded room together, I'd let you gently stroke my arm, moving every so slowly toward my breast. . .

And then I'd turn toward you and squeeze your balls. Really, really fuckin' hard, because all that time I've spent in the gym doing heavy deadlifts has given me an iron grip. And because ball-squeezing is as arousing to me (just ask my husband) as fondling is to you, it's all good, right? I appreciate small favors as well.

 

[TypicalDeviant]

I'm not sure how this is a How-To thread, but I have thoughts.

This is really hot, actually. If we were in a crowded room together, I'd let you gently stroke my arm, moving every so slowly toward my breast. . .

And then I'd turn toward you and squeeze your balls. Really, really fuckin' hard, because all that time I've spent in the gym doing heavy deadlifts has given me an iron grip. And because ball-squeezing is as arousing to me (just ask my husband) as fondling is to you, it's all good, right? I appreciate small favors as well.

Do go on...

 

[silverwhisper]

eilan, it's so very, very good to see you here again. :>

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[mark_j]

How about this.

It is considered rude and boorish behavior to touch anyone anyplace (except maybe arms, face and hair) that is not invited in some manner. Crowded subways and other public areas (elevators and such) there is always the possibility of accidental touching. However the accepted manner to deal with that is to apologize or excuse ones self.

Unless you are invited Sir or Madam, keep you hands to yourself.

 

[rachel90211]

Over the years...I have known many women...who accept fondling.."When done in good taste" if that is at all gramatically correct. I agree a man does not have the right to "fondle" but he has the right to suggest that he wishes to ask..as in when talking to a woman say at a party where closeness seems fitting...not at work or in a store. If her body language allows, I start by touching the arm lightly slowly carefully...allowing her all the time to step back a bit...as I then accept her decision. If she seems to have accepted the closeness I then continue...I myself think of this as breast worship, and in that way associate it with BDSM..Yes it would be great if she knelt and proceeded to perform...right there at the party but of course thats not going to happen...so I appreciate small favors.
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No, unless you are lover, no touching.

 

[NippleMuncher]

I'm not sure how this is a How-To thread, but I have thoughts.

This is really hot, actually. If we were in a crowded room together, I'd let you gently stroke my arm, moving every so slowly toward my breast. . .

And then I'd turn toward you and squeeze your balls. Really, really fuckin' hard, because all that time I've spent in the gym doing heavy deadlifts has given me an iron grip. And because ball-squeezing is as arousing to me (just ask my husband) as fondling is to you, it's all good, right? I appreciate small favors as well.

Ooh! Do that thing you do where you ram your stilettos up his arse! He'll really like that!

 

[fuckmeat]

Hi Dearelliot,

I'm not sure what kind of debate you want to start here. You have said that the parties you frequent are very sexually liberated, so of course the women there are going to have different boundaries. You say yourself that most women would not find fondling acceptable and that you don't socialise with the kind of women who would punch you in the face for touching them intimately. So given that most women do not want to be fondled by anyone other than their significant other, it was inevitable really that the responses you got here would be negative ones.

I'm bisexual but I would never flirt with or hit on a woman I knew to be heterosexual. It would make her feel uncomfortable and it would be a pointless, arrogant thing to do. What gives me the right to think that her sexual boundaries and preferences will change if I approach her in the 'right way?' Most women think, quite rightly, that allowing some random guy to touch their breasts gives him a cheap thrill while cheapening a part of her body that she should feel proud of. You will not change their opinion.

I wouldn't presume to try flirting with or hitting on a woman I didn't know unless I was in a gay bar/club because most women are heterosexual. I therefore suggest you stick to your hot tub party set and accept that most women outside of that niche demographic will see you as a creepy asshole if you start touching their assets.

 

[wicked woman]

Wandering in, sitting down, offering to share my popcorn.

 

[newtoplease]

Wandering in, sitting down, offering to share my popcorn.

oh.... plops down on couch beside you. popcorn please! i brought candy

 

[kara24]

mmmmm candy and pop corn ! Coke anyone??

 

[Happy__Guy]

Totally agree, just because I dont ask you to remove your hand from my arm doesnt mean you can grab my breast! Wait for the invitation!

I do love that invitation. It's way better than invites to parties and baby showers and what not.

 

[temp256]

I once got groped by some creepy guy at a club, which I did not appreciate at all. The worst part was when he insisted I was in drag, despite having just grabbed my breasts. So no, don't fondle unsolicited.

 

[mntcmn]

odd?

The question led me to muse about six or eight women who were not emotionally close at all who have touched me on the rear, upper thigh or other places with their hand or brushed against my arms, back, shoulders, elbows, etc with their breast. All those were accepted as silent compliments and thanks. What a very different way of looking at such things.
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[satindesire]

The question led me to muse about six or eight women who were not emotionally close at all who have touched me on the rear, upper thigh or other places with their hand or brushed against my arms, back, shoulders, elbows, etc with their breast. All those were accepted as silent compliments and thanks. What a very different way of looking at such things.
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The difference between flirting and sexual harassment is if the attention is unwelcome or not.

Obviously you don't mind being groped or touched inappropriately by women who have absolutely NO manners or a sense of human decency. Doesn't mean your view is more valid than anyone else's just because you enjoy being sexually mistreated.

But most women...We don't like being treated like walking vaginas bereft of emotions, souls, goals, hopes and dreams. We're HUMANS, not brainless cattle to be manhandled at will.

 

[emap]

mntcmn keep in mind breasts are not terribly mobile they do get in the way so it is entirely possible what you consider a silent compliment is actually her brushing against you on accident. It is silent because she is sitting there going oh my god do not think I am coming on to you.

dearelliot touching an arm is an innocent gesture, it is seen as nothing more than lost balance and needed to grab something or to make a point. Going from the arm to breasts would be closer to pulling up a woman's dress and pulling down her panties because she let you pull it up then oh yes I want you to fondle my breasts like your my boyfriend.

There is innocent touching and there is sexual interest touching, learn the difference.

 

[kara24]

Actually, since this thread has come back to life, I wanna add some stuff.

My SO and I regularly go to a swinging club, which obviously is a situation where people could be open to being touched by those other than their partner. BUT! Even in this situation I would consider it incredibly rude if someone just stood by me and started feeling my tits! Going back to my original post - Wait for the invitation!!! He would also be quite annoyed and would not dream of laying a finger on another woman without firstly obtaining her express consent! (and mine!)

I thought this was worth pointing out since Dearelliot seemed to feel that only a certain kind of lady would be offended by his touching!

So unless you are talking about a relationship with several females, or are an invited participant in an orgy, I cannot imagine a scenario where this would be seen as OK.

 

[IrisAlthea]

Actually, since this thread has come back to life, I wanna add some stuff.

My SO and I regularly go to a swinging club, which obviously is a situation where people could be open to being touched by those other than their partner. BUT! Even in this situation I would consider it incredibly rude if someone just stood by me and started feeling my tits! Going back to my original post - Wait for the invitation!!! He would also be quite annoyed and would not dream of laying a finger on another woman without firstly obtaining her express consent! (and mine!)

I thought this was worth pointing out since Dearelliot seemed to feel that only a certain kind of lady would be offended by his touching!

So unless you are talking about a relationship with several females, or are an invited participant in an orgy, I cannot imagine a scenario where this would be seen as OK.

Very good point!