For the record, you are an idiot if . . .

[Politruk]

Putin is not Russia.

Putin controls Russia. Absolutely. So long as that lasts, there is no point in separating the two.

He represents the prevailing opinion of the Russian elite and he is in fact quite a bit more moderate than many of them.

The elite never wanted this war either. They didn't push Putin into it. He could end the war at no political cost to himself, with no danger of emboldening a challenger for the leadership.

 

[Politruk]

How do you imagine an individual in a country the size and power of Russia could enter into a war against the will of its people and elite, maintain it for 3 years and still achieve an economic growth of 4% with no domestic pushback or resistance? Is your argument still this is just Putin?

Dictators have done exactly that many times before -- as any Russian could tell you, and any German.

 

[Politruk]

Yes. You don't address any of my points. That's incredibly boring.

I have left none of your points unaddressed.

 

[Politruk]

This war is never going to be settled by any peace talks in which Ukraine does not fully participate.

 

[Politruk]

Seriously? In what world do you inhabit my good friend? Is it the one where the US pays all Ukrainian government salaries? They have no room at any table. Business 101

The U.S. settled the Russo-Japanese War -- by inviting both sides to a peace conference.

 

[Politruk]

You do realize that without US patronage, the Ukrainian state ceases to exist?

It does not need anything from us but arms. It is a perfectly viable state apart from having a big strong aggressive enemy.

 

[UltraChad]

If you use a meaningless phrase like "race socialist," you are an idiot.

It's not meaningless, you just don't like it because it shits on woke democrats.

 

[UltraChad]

N.B.: Democrats, liberals and progressives are not in any way anti-white. They are anti-white privilege, that's all.

Liberals aren't, but they are all MAGA now.

Democrats/progressive are openly anti-white.

You just call it "white privilege' to hide how totally fucking racist you are.

 

[Politruk]

Liberals aren't, but they are all MAGA now.

No liberals are MAGA, you liar.

Democrats/progressive are openly anti-white.

Damned liar.

 

[UltraChad]

I appreciate your enthusiasm, but you've already proven your idiocy here beyond reasonable doubt -- you don't need to keep pounding it like that.

Projection.

 

[Beachguy23]

You are definitely an idiot if you truly believe Trump and his girlfriend Elon really give a shit about anything more than their own fortunes and how manipulating everything to make more money and gain more power. Donny Frump makes Putin look like a nice person

 

[UltraChad]

No liberals are MAGA, you liar.

Free speech, free commerce, freedom of association, freedom to arm and defend yourself and your private property....all things you, progressives and Democrats are all SUPER against.

And MAGA supports.

I'm not a liar because you are in denial, MAGA is by far the most liberal political group/movement in the USA.

Damned liar.

Nope. That's why they openly call for segregation and institutionalized discrimination against them.

That's why the SCOTUS bitch slaps them around with the CRA of 64' for it too.

 

[Politruk]

Liberals aren't, but they are all MAGA now.

If you apply the name "liberal" to what is really vulgar libertarianism, you are an idiot.

 

[UltraChad]

You are definitely an idiot if you truly believe Trump and his girlfriend Elon really give a shit about anything more than their own fortunes and how manipulating everything to make more money and gain more power. Donny Frump makes Putin look like a nice person

They are demonstrating that far more so than any democrat has done since the one they shot in Dallas.

 

[Politruk]

Why do you make the effort with these obvious troll posts, but those with substance you shy away from? Asking for a friend.

I don't shy away from yours.

 

[UltraChad]

If you apply the name "liberal" to what is really vulgar libertarianism, you are an idiot.

Your hatred of liberalism is immaterial to the fact that Democrats are wildly authoritarian and totalitarian control freaks next to MAGA who are demonstrably far more liberal.

Just on free speech alone, CORE liberal value, Democrats have a totally fucking irate hatred of it and every other individual civil liberty we value in the USA. That is why they are not liberals of any sort. But progressives.

 

[Politruk]

They are demonstrating that far more so than any democrat has done since the one they shot in Dallas.

Yes, they are demonstrating that they do not give a shit about anything more than their own fortunes manipulating everything to make more money and gain more power.

 

[UltraChad]

Yes, they are demonstrating that they do not give a shit about anything more than their own fortunes manipulating everything to make more money and gain more power.

No, they're doing the opposite.

By taking your hands out of our pockets and giving us our money back. And they are going to become wildly fucking popular for it. Cost them nothing to become absolute hero's to everyone not on that Democrat corruption train and make them realize just how little Democrats have actually done for them.

 

[Politruk]

Your hatred of liberalism is immaterial to the fact that Democrats are wildly authoritarian and totalitarian control freaks next to MAGA who are demonstrably far more liberal.

Just on free speech alone, CORE liberal value, Democrats have a totally fucking irate hatred of it and every other individual civil liberty we value in the USA. That is why they are not liberals of any sort. But progressives.

LBJ -- liberal.

Barry Goldwater -- not liberal.

Got it now?

 

[Politruk]

You didn't address all of my points. You selectively addressed them. If that's your idea of rebuttal, OK. To me that's an intellectual lightweight.

No, I haven't missed anything of importance.

 

[UltraChad]

LBJ -- liberal.

Barry Goldwater -- not liberal.

Got it now?

LBJ was not liberal either.

Liberty loathing control freaks who forcibly take as much as they can from you and give you nothing in return?? Are NOT liberals.

You're an absolute liar for claiming they are.

liberalism, political doctrine that takes protecting and enhancing the freedom of the individual to be the central problem of politics.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/liberalism

Got it now??

 

[UltraChad]

That's a classic sign of someone who doesn't want to debate on the merits.

He thinks Stalin was liberal...he's fucking retarded.

 

[Politruk]

LBJ was not liberal either.

Liberty loathing control freaks who forcibly take as much as they can from you and give you nothing in return?? Are NOT liberals.

You're an absolute liar for claiming they are.


https://www.britannica.com/topic/liberalism

Got it now??

This is America. Liberal does not mean Libertarian.

 

[UltraChad]

This is America. Liberal does not mean Libertarian.

Yes, that means classical ENGLISH liberalism, not French or German socialism calling itself and all it's centralized control and authority worship "liberal" LOL

And that was the core ideology from which modern libertarianism spawned making libertarians the modern AMERICAN liberals.....and MAGA is by far the more libertarian group standing next to the totalitarian Karencrat control freaks. It's not even close.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Another day, another UncleChan "But...but....dictionary says!" meltdown.
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