For Those About To Vote,

We're Americans.

We're going to bitch, win, lose or draw. It's what we do and then, we "git 'r DUN!"
 
Vote anyhow. If you're right, we're fucked. If you're not, Trump may well win. If you don't vote, don't bitch. LOL



Ah ah ah, Young Lady. I do not forfeit my 1A rights by declining to participate in the Government Charades. But I get your point.


I see the fucking as either Prison Rape or Rough Anal - not much difference to the recipient.
 
Ah ah ah, Young Lady. I do not forfeit my 1A rights by declining to participate in the Government Charades. But I get your point.

I see the fucking as either Prison Rape or Rough Anal - not much difference to the recipient.

'Tis better by far to give rather than to receive.....
 
JoePepsiCo/Wat really went to town on having a discussion with himself in this thread.

Stable genius. 😄
 
When the rapist calls for you to join in with his next insurrection to overturn the Constitution and install him as dictator, be sure to obey. Take all your guns and lay your life down for him. Because he is the one calling to take your guns away from you, not Kamala Harris.
 
Look, I get being cynical. I can be that way myself. For myself, I think that we're probably about five or six years away from the end of this civilization. I hope that I'm wrong, for my granddaughters' sake. Hell, I really hope that I'm wrong. In any case, not voting isn't sticking it to the man. Voting is your only way to stick it to the man. And don't be deluded, as I briefly was, into thinking that Trump is his own man. He has handlers, and they're too cocky to hide it anymore. They're the far religious right and tech moguls. Just saying. Oh, and I've still got reservations about Harris. I even considered backing either Cornel West (who didn't turn out to be on the ballot), Jill Stein (though there are some real questions about her), or Chase Oliver, the Libertarian. I chose Harris in the end because she was the best prospect for keeping a raving lunatic out of the White House.
 
Look, I get being cynical. I can be that way myself. For myself, I think that we're probably about five or six years away from the end of this civilization. I hope that I'm wrong, for my granddaughters' sake. Hell, I really hope that I'm wrong. In any case, not voting isn't sticking it to the man. Voting is your only way to stick it to the man. And don't be deluded, as I briefly was, into thinking that Trump is his own man. He has handlers, and they're too cocky to hide it anymore. They're the far religious right and tech moguls. Just saying. Oh, and I've still got reservations about Harris. I even considered backing either Cornel West (who didn't turn out to be on the ballot), Jill Stein (though there are some real questions about her), or Chase Oliver, the Libertarian. I chose Harris in the end because she was the best prospect for keeping a raving lunatic out of the White House.


I agree with you, kind of. I just think that The Titanic Struggle isn't waged in the voting booth but behind some curtain where our owners congregate and make decisions for us because we're too st000pid to do it ourselves. I worry for the kids, too, but I cannot see getting emotionally involved in something over which I believe I have no control. I'll put my efforts into dealing with the outcome.


I don't believe that either of them will do much, and likely Harris would do less.
 
Look, I get being cynical. I can be that way myself. For myself, I think that we're probably about five or six years away from the end of this civilization. I hope that I'm wrong, for my granddaughters' sake. Hell, I really hope that I'm wrong. In any case, not voting isn't sticking it to the man. Voting is your only way to stick it to the man. And don't be deluded, as I briefly was, into thinking that Trump is his own man. He has handlers, and they're too cocky to hide it anymore. They're the far religious right and tech moguls. Just saying. Oh, and I've still got reservations about Harris. I even considered backing either Cornel West (who didn't turn out to be on the ballot), Jill Stein (though there are some real questions about her), or Chase Oliver, the Libertarian. I chose Harris in the end because she was the best prospect for keeping a raving lunatic out of the White House.
I think you sell us short.

I run across this a lot when we get to discussions of population growth where the tendency is to assume technology a constant.

I also know that projecting the end-of-the-world has been selling books since the very early 70s, there have been no shortage of them in my library over the years; there are no reprints and if they were correct, there would have been no need...

So that might be a rather short "revelations" time frame.
 
Look, I get being cynical. I can be that way myself. For myself, I think that we're probably about five or six years away from the end of this civilization. I hope that I'm wrong, for my granddaughters' sake. Hell, I really hope that I'm wrong. In any case, not voting isn't sticking it to the man. Voting is your only way to stick it to the man. And don't be deluded, as I briefly was, into thinking that Trump is his own man. He has handlers, and they're too cocky to hide it anymore. They're the far religious right and tech moguls. Just saying. Oh, and I've still got reservations about Harris. I even considered backing either Cornel West (who didn't turn out to be on the ballot), Jill Stein (though there are some real questions about her), or Chase Oliver, the Libertarian. I chose Harris in the end because she was the best prospect for keeping a raving lunatic out of the White House.
If your assertion is that "we're close to the end of the world" and your conclusion is "we need to vote more"

I think 1. Your priorities are fucked and 2. You probably like hyperbole more than most
 
We're Americans.

We're going to bitch, win, lose or draw. It's what we do and then, we "git 'r DUN!"

It's right there in the US Constitution - 1st Amendment; we reserve the right to bitch, moan, and complain over just about everything.

Up to and including the fact that "whole wheat" bread these days ain't much more'n unbleached white bread. 'Cuz they is both made o' wheat flour.

See, y'all ain't foolin' nobody wit dat nonsense.
 
If your assertion is that "we're close to the end of the world" and your conclusion is "we need to vote more"

I think 1. Your priorities are fucked and 2. You probably like hyperbole more than most
1. I'm hoping that I'm wrong about the end of the world and I'm not going to make nihilistic decisions based upon such a fear. If anything, I would want to vote for someone likely to at least buy us some time. 2. Again, I really hope that I'm wrong. It's not something that I eagerly anticipate. For one thing, again, it would be very bad for my family. For another, it would be very bad for me (I wouldn't survive without modern medicine being mass-produced). I'm just hoping that I'm wrong. In the meantime, I'm not going to vote to hasten the demise. I also don't want to refuse to vote and risk letting it happen sooner. Electing a nutjob seems like a good way to expedite the collapse.
 
Look, I get being cynical. I can be that way myself. For myself, I think that we're probably about five or six years away from the end of this civilization. <snip>
You've said this quite a few times now, at first I thought you were just engaging in election-year hyperbole.

Wat, in your opinion, will be the harbinger of the American demise? War? Famine? Financial Crisis? Homosexuals? Cat boxes in elementary school restrooms?

America has weathered all of the above before and still remains strong.
 
1. I'm hoping that I'm wrong about the end of the world and I'm not going to make nihilistic decisions based upon such a fear. If anything, I would want to vote for someone likely to at least buy us some time. 2. Again, I really hope that I'm wrong. It's not something that I eagerly anticipate. For one thing, again, it would be very bad for my family. For another, it would be very bad for me (I wouldn't survive without modern medicine being mass-produced). I'm just hoping that I'm wrong. In the meantime, I'm not going to vote to hasten the demise. I also don't want to refuse to vote and risk letting it happen sooner. Electing a nutjob seems like a good way to expedite the collapse.
So you kinda sorta maybe think things are ending for humanity and your answer is "vote"

Campaigns fear monger much better than you.
 
It's right there in the US Constitution - 1st Amendment; we reserve the right to bitch, moan, and complain over just about everything.

Up to and including the fact that "whole wheat" bread these days ain't much more'n unbleached white bread. 'Cuz they is both made o' wheat flour.

See, y'all ain't foolin' nobody wit dat nonsense.
And then they gave us the second to make sure that we're heard.


Yes.


And yes.


And since we don't have troops to fear quartering. perhaps we can look into other kinds of quartering.


May even fiddy centin' . . . .
 
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