Fred Trump's Cognitive Decline

[dmallord]

Is anyone up for ending the third-grade banter and speaking on something substantial?

 

[adrina]

Is anyone up for ending the third-grade banter and speaking on something substantial?

Exactly.

The reality is the media and the right wing media talk about Joe Biden's mental health but the reality is Trump's condition on top of his genetics make his cognitive state a serious issue.

Trump is mixing up names, confusing places, having even more emotional outbursts than "normal", mis-remembering recent events and is even slurring his words.

His father slipped substantially within a couple short years.

 

[dmallord]

Mental health conditions are reasonable topics for discussion regarding politicians in power. They should be accompanied by some caveats as well. Hereditary traits can but do not always play out as factors.

One medical resources says, "Having a family member with dementia can increase your risk of developing dementia. The risk goes up if your family member developed dementia before they turned 60 years old or if the family member is a parent or sibling.

"There are also genes that make it more likely that someone will get dementia that can be passed along in families. However, having these genes does not mean you will develop dementia. Many people with these genes never get dementia, while many without them do develop the condition.

"A rare type of dementia called familial Alzheimer’s disease is caused by a gene that is passed down in families. This gene directly causes dementia and is inherited in family lines."

Based on this, if the thread statements concerning Fred Trump apply, Don Trump Sr., would be more susceptible to mental issues more significant than dementia.

Are the signs we see in Trump ones that are on the forefront of the more serious ones? That would take more than a cognitive test, right? Perhaps a full battery of appropriate diagnostics would be in order.

 

[HisArpy]

Apparently someone likes to speak ill of the dead.

Probably because the dead can't defend themselves from the abhorrent slanders of a coward.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Most Americans believe both candidates are too old. The difference between how the public feels about Biden’s fitness for office in comparison to how they feel about Trump’s fitness for office is most likely based on their observations of the two men rather than family medical history.

 

[ll74]

Apparently someone likes to speak ill of the dead.

Probably because the dead can't defend themselves from the abhorrent slanders of a coward.

There is no slander of Fred Trump in this thread nor has anyone spoken ill of him.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Most Americans believe both candidates are too old. The difference between how the public feels about Biden’s fitness for office in comparison to how they feel about Trump’s fitness for office is most likely based on their observations of the two men rather than family medical history.

It's crazy that trump has never won the popular vote
Almost like the polls are wrong

 

[Fuzzy1975]

The difference between how the public feels about Biden’s fitness for office in comparison to how they feel about Trump’s fitness for office is most likely based on their observations of the two men rather than family medical history.

I disagree.

There is a section of public that follows the observable between the two, that your correct. But then there is another demographic that see's only Biden as mentally unfit regardless of if Trump may exhibit potential cognitive decline.

I don't think there are many who bring family medical history into there decision making.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Apparently someone likes to speak ill of the dead.

Probably because the dead can't defend themselves from the abhorrent slanders of a coward.

What slander? Put up or shut up.

 

[HisArpy]

Most Americans believe both candidates are too old. The difference between how the public feels about Biden’s fitness for office in comparison to how they feel about Trump’s fitness for office is most likely based on their observations of the two men rather than family medical history.

The reality is that no man is an island. All Presidents (and kings/queens) rely on a council of advisors. If those advisors do not render good advice, then the man in the hot seat cannot enact good policy. So, when you see the top dog failing consistently on all issues, it's because those he relies upon have failed him.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

It's crazy that trump has never won the popular vote
Almost like the polls are wrong

The crazy thing is that you think the popular vote determines winners and losers in presidential elections. Even more crazy is that you don’t understand how and why candidates for office use polling data.

 

[HisArpy]

The crazy thing is that you think the popular vote determines winners and losers in presidential elections. Even more crazy is that you don’t understand how and why candidates for office use polling data.

He has TDS so of course he doesn't understand anything.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

I disagree.

There is a section of public that follows the observable between the two, that your correct. But then there is another demographic that see's only Biden as mentally unfit regardless of if Trump may exhibit potential cognitive decline.

I don't think there are many who bring family medical history into there decision making.

We can theorize all day long about why many more voters are concerned with Biden’s fitness for office than Trumps, but it doesn’t change the fact that the president is much more widely perceived by the public as being unfit for office. I don’t think family medical history plays into it for either candidate.

 

[DeluxAuto]

The crazy thing is that you think the popular vote determines winners and losers in presidential elections. Even more crazy is that you don’t understand how and why candidates for office use polling data.

Would you say your comprehension skills are poor or piss poor?

He has TDS so of course he doesn't understand anything.

Carbon Boi has opinions!

 

[adrina]

I disagree.

There is a section of public that follows the observable between the two, that your correct. But then there is another demographic that see's only Biden as mentally unfit regardless of if Trump may exhibit potential cognitive decline.

I don't think there are many who bring family medical history into there decision making.

I don't think there are either. However given Trump's behaviors and speech it is a fair question.

His father was showing signs of cognitive decline about this time in his life. It progressed rapidly. If he's on the same or similar path, by this time next year he could be full blown dementia with a serious risk of Alzheimer's.

 

[dmallord]

The reality is that no man is an island. All Presidents (and kings/queens) rely on a council of advisors. If those advisors do not render good advice, then the man in the hot seat cannot enact good policy. So, when you see the top dog failing consistently on all issues, it's because those he relies upon have failed him.

Does this apply to Ex-Presidents as well? Seems it zeros in on Mr. Trump's proclivities to selectively take his advisors' advice - bad ones related to slander and fighting a lost election.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

He has TDS so of course he doesn't understand anything.

He gets triggered very easily. He reacts to nearly every post I make.

 

[Comshaw]

Fred Trump, Donald's father, lived to 93 years old dying in 1999 from pneumonia. However, long before he died his mental faculties had been slipping. As early as 1991, he was diagnosed with senile dementia. By 1993 he had been diagnosed with Alzheimer's. He insisted on continuing to work so his family built him a fake office and made him think he was in charge. His memory was deteriorating. He was not able to retain information after asked about it as soon as 30 minutes later. He was also not able to recall his own birthday. He would mix up or completely forget details, names and events. This was noted by his early mid 80s and even documented in court. Family members say his memory and mental health had been going into decline before the documented records. Diagnosis is never immediate. (There's also claims of Donald exploiting his father's weakened mental state when he wrested control of the estate from the rest of the family.)

In what seems to be an ironic twist, Donald mocked his own father for cognitive decline.

Is Alzheimer's Genetic?

Family history is not necessary for an individual to develop Alzheimer’s. However, research shows that those who have a parent or sibling with Alzheimer's are more likely to develop the disease than those who do not have a first-degree relative with Alzheimer’s. Those who have more than one first-degree relative with Alzheimer’s are at an even higher risk. When diseases like Alzheimer's and other dementias tend to run in families, either genetics (hereditary factors), environmental factors — or both — may play a role.

Hmmmmmm...


Comshaw

 

[KeithD]

I really don't give a fuck. God, they're both terrible. I mean, I suppose that one is worse than the other, but... seriously, we should NOT have this debate.

Sure you give a fuck. You post your bile on politics on a porn story site. Of course you give a fuck that your hero is being fully exposed and flushed down the drain.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

We can theorize all day long about why many more voters are concerned with Biden’s fitness for office than Trumps, but it doesn’t change the fact that the president is much more widely perceived by the public as being unfit for office.

Given Biden's older than Trump is the reason people are concerned. You don't need a lot of grey matter to understand that. If Trump was older, the poll numbers would be reversed. Neither of these two old goats should be the front runners, or even running, but there you are.

I don’t think family medical history plays into it for either candidate.

Me either.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I don't think there are either. However given Trump's behaviors and speech it is a fair question.

It is, and it's fair on Biden too.

he could be full blown dementia with a serious risk of Alzheimer's.

Assuming it came to be, my fear would be his administration wouldn't be there to stop him, in his last term it was. Or at least to hold back some of his crazier plans. This time around he will only bring in yes people, and I suspect they would go along with whatever Trump wanted.

I am hoping that Americans will vote for a person who has their best interest at heart, even if many disagree with what Biden "thinks" is the best for "them", over a person who has came right out and stated a President should be a dictator, and will do everything to secure virtually unlimited power for himself.

 

[adrina]

It is, and it's fair on Biden too.

Assuming it came to be, my fear would be his administration wouldn't be there to stop him, in his last term it was. Or at least to hold back some of his crazier plans. This time around he will only bring in yes people, and I suspect they would go along with whatever Trump wanted.

I am hoping that Americans will vote for a person who has their best interest at heart, even if many disagree with what Biden "thinks" is the best for "them", over a person who has came right out and stated a President should be a dictator, and will do everything to secure virtually unlimited power for himself.

Debatable as to the level of fairness given that Biden has been harped on incessantly but most are giving Trump a pass. This is especially concerning because if one is to watch the two men side by side, Trump is legitimately worse off.

Your concern regarding the stability of those around the president to be is very real. Joe Biden will choose seasoned professionals who know how governance works. Trump will select yes-men loyalists who will do his bidding regardless of the law.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Debatable as to the level of fairness given that Biden has been harped on incessantly but most are giving Trump a pass. This is especially concerning because if one is to watch the two men side by side, Trump is legitimately worse off.

Trump's cult always give him a pass. They have partaken of the kool-aid

 

[Lazaran]

“He insisted on continuing to work so his family built him a fake office and made him think he was in charge. His memory was deteriorating.”

So after the corrupt orange traitor is convicted, the authorities can tell that demented orange POS that the prison cell is the Oval Office and that the prison is the White House???

Cool!!!



On a slightly more serious note:

Your highlighting of heredity factors involved in the likelihood of one developing dementia is perfectly reasonable and relevant when talking about the demented corrupt orange traitor’s state of mind.

Side note:

I can tell that the RWCJ "members" are worried the information you highlighted about dementia being hereditary and Fred Trump having been diagnosed with dementia IS a reasonable and relevant point. because BabyBoobs, Derpy, etc joined the thread to deflect and distract from that point

Great post.

 

[Lazaran]

I don’t think family medical history plays into it for either candidate.

Translation of BabyBoobs’ lying and gaslighting:

BabyBoobs is scared shitless of this news about Fred Trump having been diagnosed with dementia, and it (dementia) being hereditary.

This news could really break through to independent and undecided voters - just like other Democratic messages, and the truth about the corrupt orange traitor’s criminality are really starting to break through.



BabyBoobs