General Motor's Problems

[Ramone45]

Does the bailout still seem like a prudent investment of taxpayer dollars? My feeling was to let them fail. They're failing anyway. I think it would have emerged
stronger eventually. The bailaout interfered with survival of the fittest-competition.

 

[October46]

Failing, not, that 35 million fine is what they spend on lunches for the executives!

 

[bronzeage]

Does the bailout still seem like a prudent investment of taxpayer dollars? My feeling was to let them fail. They're failing anyway. I think it would have emerged
stronger eventually. The bailaout interfered with survival of the fittest-competition.

A little late to be worried about that now.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Does the bailout still seem like a prudent investment of taxpayer dollars? My feeling was to let them fail. They're failing anyway. I think it would have emerged
stronger eventually. The bailaout interfered with survival of the fittest-competition.

Profits Uber Alles, right?

People like you should be shot.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Does the bailout still seem like a prudent investment of taxpayer dollars? My feeling was to let them fail. They're failing anyway. I think it would have emerged
stronger eventually. The bailaout interfered with survival of the fittest-competition.

You have it backwards. The bailout was an example of a politically well-connected multinational corporation doing whatever it had to do to survive. The world of lobbyists and government subsidies is the real world in which companies actually operate, fantasies of laissez-faire competition notwithstanding.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Does the bailout still seem like a prudent investment of taxpayer dollars? My feeling was to let them fail. They're failing anyway. I think it would have emerged
stronger eventually. The bailaout interfered with survival of the fittest-competition.

Yes. We'll see if they fail, I don't think they will but we still didn't have a realistic choice about bailing them out. Letting them fail would have been catastrophic. Survival of the fittest-competition would have simply seen the end of the American car companies as our fitter competitors took over.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Yes. We'll see if they fail, I don't think they will but we still didn't have a realistic choice about bailing them out. Letting them fail would have been catastrophic. Survival of the fittest-competition would have simply seen the end of the American car companies as our fitter competitors took over.

I'm amazed at how the 20/20 hindsight of dipsticks such as Ramone fail to realize how fragile the economy was during the Bush stock market crash. Allowing GM to go bankrupt, as folks like Romney suggested, would have almost certainly had a ripple effect that would have cascaded a severe recession into a depression.

Fuck Romney, fuck Ramone and fuck all these Ivory Tower jackwagons.

 

[eyer]

GM's entire Research & Development arm is on the move to Communist China as I post...

...I wouldn't doubt a bit that within the next few years Communist China will become the majority shareholder of the once mighty carmaker, if not it's outright owner.

 

[BotanyBoy]

GM's entire Research & Development arm is on the move to Communist China as I post...

...I wouldn't doubt a bit that within the next few years Communist China will become the majority shareholder of the once mighty carmaker, if not it's outright owner.

boo fuckin' hoo.....GM licks balls...always has always will.

 

[Amberchgo]

Does the bailout still seem like a prudent investment of taxpayer dollars? My feeling was to let them fail. They're failing anyway. I think it would have emerged
stronger eventually. The bailaout interfered with survival of the fittest-competition.

It was a move to support unions. Period.

 

[Sean Renaud]

GM's entire Research & Development arm is on the move to Communist China as I post...

...I wouldn't doubt a bit that within the next few years Communist China will become the majority shareholder of the once mighty carmaker, if not it's outright owner.

Citation is needed. It wouldn't shock me too much though, China in a lot of ways had a more "business friendly" environment than the US. Not sure how well GM would fare but I'm not certain what laws would and wouldn't apply to them.

It was a move to support unions. Period.

As is the truth of nearly everything you think Obama does, wish a motherfucker would. Unions are nearly extinct in this country and we are suffering collectively because of it.

 

[eyer]

Brain is needed.

Sucks to be you, Renard...

 

[BotanyBoy]

It was a move to support unions. Period.

As is the truth of nearly everything you think Obama does, wish a motherfucker would. Unions are nearly extinct in this country and we are suffering collectively because of it.

Only commies support unions....GO RED!!! GO RIGHT WING!! WHEW REPUBLICAN!!

http://www.newscorpse.com/Pix/Misc/reagan-hitler.jpg

Couldn't better illustrate how far down BatShit Ln. the RW in Muricuh has gone in general.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Sucks to be you, Renard...

It's Renaud. Renard is one of yours.

 

[Amberchgo]

Unions are nearly extinct in this country and we are suffering collectively because of it.

True. But those that remain vote Dem and send them LOTS of money.

 

[Sean Renaud]

True. But those that remain vote Dem and send them LOTS of money.

Let's assume that's true. So fucking what? They are supposed to act in their self interest and they currently don't have the choice between two different groups who both have the same goal (for them) and provide different paths to get there. One group wants to anhilate them and the other. . .largely ignores them.

 

[Que]

It's Renaud. Renard is one of yours.

Holy See-and-say Batman!

I've been mispronouncing it in my head for, forever.

Odd I was mulling over in my head a meaningless chain of unrelated names.

Sean, Sean Rena(r)d, Renard Ruse, Ruse de Guerre.... as if one had something to do with the other.

I often see patterns where there are in fact coincidences. Aspey-ish

GM's entire Research & Development arm is on the move to Communist China as I post...

...I wouldn't doubt a bit that within the next few years Communist China will become the majority shareholder of the once mighty carmaker, if not it's outright owner.

You are thinking of Chrysler maybe?

 

[Amberchgo]

Let's assume that's true. So fucking what? They are supposed to act in their self interest and they currently don't have the choice between two different groups who both have the same goal (for them) and provide different paths to get there. One group wants to anhilate them and the other. . .largely ignores them.

Just pointing out that the bailout was a return for political contributions.

 

[Amberchgo]

Holy See-and-say Batman!

I've been mispronouncing it in my head for, forever.

Odd I was mulling over in my head a meaningless chain of unrelated names.

Sean, Sean Rena(r)d, Renard Ruse, Ruse de Guerre.... as if one had something to do with the other.

Hmmmm. That would be multiple personality disorder.

 

[eyer]

It's Renaud. Renard is one of yours.

Awww...

...little, putrid, ignorant, Renard lemming just inherently loves to play Red Rover, Red Rover.

 

[eyer]

You are thinking of Chrysler maybe?

What's it feel like to be as ignorant as Renard?

 

[Sean Renaud]

Just pointing out that the bailout was a return for political contributions.

If it was then Obama needs to give better returns to his contributers. As it stands he gives them polished turds.

Awww...

...little, putrid, ignorant, Renard lemming just inherently loves to play Red Rover, Red Rover.

Die in a fire.

 

[Que]

What's it feel like to be as ignorant as Renard?

Hmm. I hadn't considered it...warm and fuzzy, maybe?

I am always a little amused by the use of "ignorant" as some kind of superlative for "stupid."

It is quite possible that either the good Mr. Rena(u)d, myself or likely both of us are ill-informed on a host of issues, We might well draw poorly formed conclusions from the knowledge that we have... but I wouldn't go so far as to call the brotha "ig'nient."

I would say we are some of the most "informed" persons you might run across. We might have sought out the wrong venues to garner knowledge and ditch our native uninformed states, bit uninformed we are not.

Neither one of us is likely to answer 'undecided' if polled.

 

[Amberchgo]

If it was then Obama needs to give better returns to his contributers. As it stands he gives them polished turds.
.

He was reelected. He got what he wanted.

 

[Sean Renaud]

He was reelected. He got what he wanted.

He got reelected for doing a good job over all and having a shitty opponent. Honestly Romney would have won if he'd ignored the base.