GLBT Personals

[deezire1900]

forgot to mention...i like to be able to cruise the personals with ease...i am to busy to search through straight boys.

 

[Etoile]

Am I missing something.....?

Lancecastor seemed to be expressing a needed point, of if we seperate ourselves, we add to the seperation factor. And he was jumped on like a pack instinct.
I am confused, has he pissed people off before?

I hate being group together like cattle "GLBT". Just because I am a lesbian, doesn't mean I understand why Gay men have sex changes to call themselves straight women.
To me it would be like forming the "JCBM" group...for Jewish, Catholic, Budist, Muslims, they wouldn't appreciate it.

I'll let other people address your question about Lance having pissed people off before.

But I really take exception to your comment about "just because I am a lesbian doesn't mean I understand why gay men have sex changes to call themselves straight women." Are you totally unaware of trans issues? Gay men don't have sex changes, TRANSGENDER people have sex changes. Are you totally disconnected from the fact that gays and lesbians have SIMILAR ISSUES to contend with, like not being able to get married or join the military etc?

 

[deezire1900]

I am completly aware of the issues, you have no idea who i am, of what i think...or what I stand for. I knew I shouldn't say anything, It is disapointing to have a thread that doesn't allow free expression of thoughts, and feelings.

and yes gay men have sex changes to become straight woman. Gender and sexuality are two from different and one of the same.

 

[Etoile]

I am completly aware of the issues, you have no idea who i am, of what i think...or what I stand for. I knew I shouldn't say anything, It is disapointing to have a thread that doesn't allow free expression of thoughts, and feelings.

and yes gay men have sex changes to become straight woman. Gender and sexuality are two from different and one of the same.

Oh come on, nobody is telling you not to express your opinion! I'm just disagreeing with it. I'm just surprised that you feel gay men, lesbians, bisexuals, and transpeople have so little in common that they can't share a forum.

And while there are some gay men out there who are also transgender, your initial post about it made it seem like a large number of them do. That's what I had a problem with.

 

[Pookie]

Am I missing something.....?

Lancecastor seemed to be expressing a needed point, of if we seperate ourselves, we add to the seperation factor. And he was jumped on like a pack instinct.
I am confused, has he pissed people off before?

I hate being group together like cattle "GLBT". Just because I am a lesbian, doesn't mean I understand why Gay men have sex changes to call themselves straight women.
To me it would be like forming the "JCBM" group...for Jewish, Catholic, Budist, Muslims, they wouldn't appreciate it.

How are we being separated from anyone or anything because we have a moderated board to discuss GLBT issues? I can post about the same issues on the GB, if I so desire. There is nothing that says that all GLBT issues can only be discussed in this forum either. Also, ANYONE is free to discuss GLBT issues here as well, as long as they're not trolling or bashing other posters.

The GLBT forum was created because enough of us asked for a "moderated" forum where trolling and homophobia could be controlled, so that GLBT issues COULD be discussed and debated without trolls, like Lance, disrupting threads with their shit stirring and homophobia.

Lance's trolling and shit stirring is well known on the GB. You might want to do a search on his past threads there to see the type of person he is. He goes out of his way to hurt people, and doesn't mind twisting peoples words into lies for his advantage. His "discussions" are rarely, if ever, without an ulterior or less than genuine motive.


Edited for spelling.

 

[Queersetti]

It's funny how Lance pops his head in and people start bickering. It's quite a talent he's got there.

 

[Cigan]

Sorry, but you can't say that here.

Whatever you do, don't describe any of it.

Wow I really wish I had read this thread before responding to Lance's other thread. Everything you have said is very carefully structured to piss people off. I compliment you on your eloquence. I would like to say a few things before I go wandering off into the forest of GLBT beauty.

One people have posted about their bi experiences that included men. Part of GLBT issues is talking about the dynamic of balancing both sides of being bi-sexual. The post about what it was like the first time you sucked a cock had at least a couple responses form girls. I didn't read the thread about the first time you ate pussy. Didn't really interst me, but I would bet even money there were some responses from bi guys. As far as the personals walls are concerned. There are no walls. We have a GLBT personals section beause it is much easier to search. Yes the search feature is useful, but a lot of people didn't bother using it because as soon as you entered the personals section it was so overwhelming, and a lot of people didn't post for the same reason. And if a bi girl was currently looking for a guy, she wouldn't post to the GLBT section, and if she was just looking for anybody and only posted in the GLBT section then there is nothing stopping you from looking in that section for bi girls looking on both sides of the fence. The fact that you are not willing to do exactly that highlights the exact psychological process we went through that made the GLBT personals section necessery in the first place.

Also as far as segregation goes I have one thing to say. Perfect mixture of people is neither possible nor desireable. Segregation by people in power causes social problems. However, part of GLBT culture is the culture. We gather together to share and celebrate what makes us different and special, just like any culture does. That doesn't mean we don't also spend time with our straight friends celebrating what we have in common with all of humanity. To deny us unique culture smacks of "Brave New World". Try giving it a read then coming back and responding again.

 

[glamorilla]

https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=225253

 

[Cigan]

Glam you are beautiful. I just love seeing Lance's other face. I have to admit he is becoming kinda funny. I do so hope he keeps posting and people start ignoring him. It's quite funny when that happens. And I am so amused by people bitching about double standards while maintaing both the conversation in this thread and the one you listed. It provides almost enough amusement that I could give up web comics.

 

[Lancecastor]

Deezire gets the point...and yes, Cigan, it's the same discussion as I've started on the GB, just framed with different language to encourage discussion by the target audience.

Segregating yourself as a special interest group while simultaneously seeking full access to all other groups is totally hypocritical, elitest and bound only to ostricize your group as such.

Simply put: you can't have your cake and eat it too.

Easy Example for you: Urban gay communities across North America seek mainstream acceptance on Municipal Councils, School Boards, etc....while simultaneously insisting on holding Annual Parades where they run around commiting acts of gross public indecency....then wonder why their access to broader acceptance and legal rights are quietly and stubbornly blocked by society.

So, if the GLBT Chat Forum is to be sexually exclusive...why shouldn't you expect Straights to ask you to stick amongst your own kind?

If I posted pics here of straight people fucking...Queer will pull them down as he did Friday nite.

Shouldn't you therefore be expected to refrain from posting gay sex pics on the GB or Authors Forum?

That is...if it's separation you want...it goes both ways.

 

[glamorilla]

The one thing Lance will never show around here is his face.

You should pick up the Enigma trade paperback.

It's indescribable.

 

[Cigan]

Wow you just get funnier and funnier you know that? Let's address this post bit by bit shall we?

First thing. We aren't segregating ourselves. There are enough topics of specific GLBT note to want to discuss, and as with all specific subjects they get lost on the GB. The existence of a GLBT board is an organizational thing. It's so people can easily access the conversations and information they are interested in. (Yeah I know search engines are so great. They are also rechid from an organizational standpoint)

Second the bit about pride parades. This isn't something to be thrown at the gay community at large. If you have ever seen a conversation or a poll in a GLBT forum that discusses these elements of pride parades you will see that most gays are of the opinion that subtelty is the best approach. The acts of "gross indecency" as you put them (Not the term I would use, but then again my mother is the one who explained what a blow job was to me, so maybe I'm just comfortable with sexuality) is an instance of the squeaky wheel getting the attention.

Third, you bit about pics of straight people fucking. Let's see. . . oh right organizational. We come here to discuss and view certain things. By the nature of a focus board organizational the people who come into this board aren't interested in those things. The people who go into the General Board are inherently going into a free for all. That's sort of what the term general implies. Also the Author's forum specifically deals with writing stories. If the topic deals with a story you are writting it fits the description of the board. You are an Author. It doesn't say straight author's forum.

Finally your comment about if it's separation we want. We don't want separation. We want organization. People come here to see specific things. Any minority subject is going to need a special area specifically because they are a minority and get lost in a general area. It's like getting a huge bag of jelly beans and picking out all the licorice one's ahead of time because you don't like them and you little brother does. Then you don't have to worry about avoiding them when you go for the bowl and your brother doesn't have to spend time looking for that last lonely hidden licorice jelly bean. It's all about making it easy to find what you want.

 

[Lancecastor]

It's like getting a huge bag of jelly beans and picking out all the licorice one's ahead of time because you don't like them and you little brother does. Then you don't have to worry about avoiding them when you go for the bowl and your brother doesn't have to spend time looking for that last lonely hidden licorice jelly bean.

I don't see you and my brother playing hide the jelly beans.

More to the point, Hitler was also big on organization, putting all the Jews in neat little rows.

You really think that non-Hets need an exclusive space to be "heard"?

If so...how long before you'll be part of mainstream society?

 

[Pookie]

I don't see you and my brother playing hide the jelly beans.

More to the point, Hitler was also big on organization, putting all the Jews in neat little rows.

You really think that non-Hets need an exclusive space to be "heard"?

If so...how long before you'll be part of mainstream society?

I guess you're still struggling with all this, huh? I was assuming it was not from a lack of intelligence, but was just trolling and shit stirring on your part. I stand corrected about my assumption that you're intellgent, since you obviously can't grasp the idea of forums on a discussion board. But I still believe you're also just trying to stir shit for attention. Not many people aspire to be a troll, but good for you, Lance.

 

[deezire1900]

I know I will pay for this (like I am not with all the harrasing PM's)
but I want to say two things...

First, Lance, please don't use my name in your responses, I don't want to be seperated from the group...I am too weak and timid to stand up on my own.

Second, I do believe the way to equalization is not to stand as an seperate group, but to act as one nation, one tribe. I have a hard time joining an all women's group, until Tiger Woods no longer play's for clubs that are "men" only. I think my thinking has less to do with this board, and this thread, but more to do with my world and my struggles.

Deezire1900

 

[Cigan]

I know I will pay for this (like I am not with all the harrasing PM's)
but I want to say two things...


Second, I do believe the way to equalization is not to stand as an seperate group, but to act as one nation, one tribe. I have a hard time joining an all women's group, until Tiger Woods no longer play's for clubs that are "men" only. I think my thinking has less to do with this board, and this thread, but more to do with my world and my struggles.

Deezire1900

Thank you for posting your opinion in such an even way Deezire. When you first responded to the way we were reacting to Lance you were obviously upset, and this post makes your feelings much more clear. I have to admit I agree with you to some extent. I would like to say though that there is a difference between an all men's golf league where women are not allowed and a GLBT discussion where we create a space to discuss a culture, and we do have a distinct culture. We want straight people to come in and learn about us, but it doesn't make sense to make a space for something and then fill it with something else. I have taken part in several distinct cultural studies from Deaf culture in my ASL class, to japanese culture, to gay culture, to southern, and Mexican culture when I lived in Texas. I think that saying we should all just stand together homogenized diminishes the distinctness which makes us interesting. We should not exclude anyone from experiencing each distinctive culture, but we should also not dillute those distinct cultures by saying that they must stand with the majority all the time. With such a divided and inclusive infrastructure each person can find their own place, be it with the majority, the minority, or optimally both.

 

[OzSteamer]

Hi to Etoile..and to Deziree...My name is OzSteamer & I'm posting here with CONSIDERABLE trepedation, not wanting to poke my, erm, private bits in where they are not wanted.

I've asked Those Deemed To Be Authorities (I mean that respectfully) about this & they said "go ahead, but be careful".

OK, care is needed I can see.

First, the pre-requisites: I'm heterosexual (boo hiss jeer) and I'm looking for a bisexual girl who's into wetsuited sex.

Now, that stated - HOW the heck does one go about FINDING such? I'm completely flummoxed by this...I would not know WHERE TO START. (Ok, Ok, that's an obvious invite for insults, I know...ho hum)

Note Well - if anyone has a "problem" with me posting here (I have posted a personal ad elsewhere - have a look in my sig for the link) , I shall, of course, remove this posting.

I think such is only courteous.

Deziree, I note that you like to write stories...have a look at some of mine. I think you may like 'em!




*sigh* It would help if I could ONLY remember to close the crummy vB tags!

 

[OzSteamer]

AND THAT stopped the thread, right in it's tracks!

Crunch!

Oh, well.

 

[Cigan]

Oz this thread had sort of come to a screeching halt before you posted here. I would say post in the GLBT personals on Lit. Go to the Literotica Personals board, there will be three links at the top and one of them is GLBT. Good luck.

 

[OzSteamer]

Thanks, Cigan

Oz this thread had sort of come to a screeching halt before you posted here. I would say post in the GLBT personals on Lit. Go to the Literotica Personals board, there will be three links at the top and one of them is GLBT. Good luck.

OK, I'll have a squiz. Thanks, again.

 

[Pookie]

Hi to Etoile..and to Deziree...My name is OzSteamer & I'm posting here with CONSIDERABLE trepedation, not wanting to poke my, erm, private bits in where they are not wanted.

I've asked Those Deemed To Be Authorities (I mean that respectfully) about this & they said "go ahead, but be careful".

OK, care is needed I can see.

First, the pre-requisites: I'm heterosexual (boo hiss jeer) and I'm looking for a bisexual girl who's into wetsuited sex.

Now, that stated - HOW the heck does one go about FINDING such? I'm completely flummoxed by this...I would not know WHERE TO START. (Ok, Ok, that's an obvious invite for insults, I know...ho hum)

Note Well - if anyone has a "problem" with me posting here (I have posted a personal ad elsewhere - have a look in my sig for the link) , I shall, of course, remove this posting.

I think such is only courteous.

Deziree, I note that you like to write stories...have a look at some of mine. I think you may like 'em!




*sigh* It would help if I could ONLY remember to close the crummy vB tags!

I would recommend starting a thread discussing your interests. I wouldn't just come right out and say you're looking for someone though. But get to know people that reply who might share your interest, and see what develops. There's room for everyones interest somewhere at Lit.

 

[OzSteamer]

Er, Pookie, I think I might have needed yer advice AAAAGES ago!

I would recommend starting a thread discussing your interests.

Ahum, have a look at the links in my "sig" file...

I wouldn't just come right out and say you're looking for someone though.

OOOPS...er, I guess I stuffed up...y';see I already have....any chance of salvaging the situation, d'you think?

But get to know people that reply who might share your interest, and see what develops.

OH, dun that! LOL, didn't work!

There's room for everyones interest somewhere at Lit.

NOPE: I disagree - no spammers, please!

 

[Pookie]

Er, Pookie, I think I might have needed yer advice AAAAGES ago!

I would recommend starting a thread discussing your interests.

Ahum, have a look at the links in my "sig" file...

I wouldn't just come right out and say you're looking for someone though.

OOOPS...er, I guess I stuffed up...y';see I already have....any chance of salvaging the situation, d'you think?

But get to know people that reply who might share your interest, and see what develops.

OH, dun that! LOL, didn't work!

There's room for everyones interest somewhere at Lit.

NOPE: I disagree - no spammers, please!

I agree about the spammers. Good luck with your search.

 

[ExistentialLuv]

First, the pre-requisites: I'm heterosexual (boo hiss jeer) and I'm looking for a bisexual girl who's into wetsuited sex.

Have you tried the beach. Do not see many wetsuited babes in land locked states.



I thought this was a personals thread. Was going to find PJ and I a couple of lesbian twins to join our harem and what do I find instead. All of you feeding that nasty troll Lance. Shame on you.

Now bring on the twins

 

[Pookie]

Am I missing something.....?

Lancecastor seemed to be expressing a needed point, of if we seperate ourselves, we add to the seperation factor. And he was jumped on like a pack instinct.
I am confused, has he pissed people off before?...

Here is a very recent example of how Lance views homosexuals ...

God might want them dead...I just want them to quarantine their disease-prone dicks in the GLBT chatter forum.