God may have created aliens, but he did not make man GAY!

[WboroBaptM0134]

I haven't said that GOD HATES FAGS. So, no. You're the one who's assumed the handle of an insane hatemonger, you're the one who has to worry.

That's logic.

God hates fags, but he loves people. Your not a fag.

 

[Stella_Omega]

No thats actually not right, I just looked it up in my dictionary. So there oh picker of little details!

you looked up the wrong word, moron.

God hates fags, but he loves people. Your not a fag.

According to Phelps, I'm a fag.

 

[teknight]

No thats actually not right, I just looked it up in my dictionary. So there oh picker of little details!

Wow. You win. Not.
But thanks for pointing it out. I have now seen the light.

 

[teknight]

God hates fags, but he loves people. Your not a fag.

So, fags are not people?
That's what the syllogism would entail.

Well, OK, a fag used to be the name for a bundle of sticks, so, I guess god hates bundles of sticks.

 

[Stella_Omega]

So, fags are not people?
That's what the syllogism would entail.

Well, OK, a fag used to be the name for a bundle of sticks, so, I guess god hates bundles of sticks.

Bundles of sticks are the reason god hates America and solders are dying in afghanistan.

Bundles of sticks are the worst sin of all sins.

Dude, you should be trolling the woodcutter's forums, and leave us fags--homosexuals-- alone.

 

[teknight]

Bundles of sticks are the reason god hates America and solders are dying in afghanistan.

Bundles of sticks are the worst sin of all sins.

Dude, you should be trolling the woodcutter's forums, and leave us fags--homosexuals-- alone.

Actually, Wboro, explain the logic in this one:
How do fags in America lead to deaths in Afghanistan?

 

[teknight]

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or your intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

Would you kill, Wboro, if someone were trying to get you to worship something other than GOD?

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

I asked a question a few pages back around this whole "logic" argument, and you, WboroBaptM0134, seem to have not deemed it worth response, so here it is again (oh no, quoting myself!). You say you want a rational, logical debate, so just answer this question and I'll be satisfied.

Ok here goes...

OK, if we're thinking about logical arguments, then I have a question. If we accept that there is a creator god who made everything the way that he wanted and he wanted men to just have sex with women, and that there is a rival figure, Satan, who has enabled a situation where men can have sex with women or with men, then, I wonder, why should we feel that the desires of the creator are, somehow, the "right" ones?

In the order of sin, Satan was the one whos sin was greatest. It has been shown that sin leads to death. God is the creator not Satan. You can't get around that. So by following Satan's recommendation you can only agree if you have been deceived, as Eve was.

In what sense is homosexuality "wrong" just because, in your logic, it is promoted by Satan? It's like in a movie that is frustratingly badly written and just tells you that the villain is evil and expects you to go along with it and cheer when they're defeated, but never bothers to show or explain how and why they're evil. Let's face it, almost all of the massive scale pain and destruction in the judeo-christian sacred texts is dealt out by Jehovah/Yahweh/whatever you want to call him.

God deals out justice. Satan is obviously the villain because he attempts to steer mankind away from God always. He never does a beneficial thing for man not once. Gods justice can be cruel, and Satan's plan is to corrupt man so much that God will be forced to destroy mankind for wickedness. However, by sending his son, the punishment was taken by the son which gives us the choice to follow and forgive. In the end the son returns to judge and Satan loses. Homosexuality is wrong because it makes a mockery of physical design. And the consequences of it do not lead to love or family or procreation. It is a non-participation in Gods design and pleases Satan to make a perversion of Man, to see him defile himself in front of God.

So, if it comes down to the choice between the spiritual being who promotes the ability to fuck whoever you want, or the one who likes to reign down fiery destruction on everyone, I have to feel that, logically, you would have to pick the former unless presented with much stronger evidence than "it's wrong because it's wrong". I'm not saying that I believe any of this, it's just that the logical progression of argument presented above does seem to lead to this hypothetical choice.

No Satan is the trickster who leads us to destruction! God is the spiritual being!

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

you looked up the wrong word, moron.

According to Phelps, I'm a fag.

Ok I just pulled this out of a dictionary (moron)

"The spelling just desserts is commonly seen but is incorrect. The misspelling is occasionally used deliberately as a play on words in the names of restaurants etc."

 

[teknight]

God deals out justice. Satan is obviously the villain because he attempts to steer mankind away from God always. He never does a beneficial thing for man not once. Gods justice can be cruel, and Satan's plan is to corrupt man so much that God will be forced to destroy mankind for wickedness. However, by sending his son, the punishment was taken by the son which gives us the choice to follow and forgive. In the end the son returns to judge and Satan loses. Homosexuality is wrong because it makes a mockery of physical design. And the consequences of it do not lead to love or family or procreation. It is a non-participation in Gods design and pleases Satan to make a perversion of Man, to see him defile himself in front of God.

Where in the bible does it say it mocks physical design?
And why are there animals with homosexual behavior then?

Christ's sacrifice only took away the original sin, brah.

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

Wow. You win. Not.
But thanks for pointing it out. I have now seen the light.

No you are simply wrong! Look it up in a dictionary instead of blubbering!

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

Where in the bible does it say it mocks physical design?
And why are there animals with homosexual behavior then?

Christ's sacrifice only took away the original sin, brah.

No animal exhibits homosexual behavior

 

[Stella_Omega]

It has been shown that sin leads to death

It has not been shown at all. You lose.

God deals out justice

Prove it.

Satan is obviously the villain because he attempts to steer mankind away from God always...

You don't get to use "Obviously" in a logical argument. You can never assume something is "obvious."

You lose.

Homosexuality is wrong because it makes a mockery of physical design.

bullshit.

you lose.

And the consequences of it do not lead to love or family or procreation.

As I have said before, gay folk can easily procreate, so you lose that one as well.

this is too easy...

 

[teknight]

Ok I just pulled this out of a dictionary (moron)

"The spelling just desserts is commonly seen but is incorrect. The misspelling is occasionally used deliberately as a play on words in the names of restaurants etc."

Did you just insult Stella?
I thought you were pure and above such petty behavior.
Be still my broken heart.

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

Would you kill, Wboro, if someone were trying to get you to worship something other than GOD?

No I would not kill, no why? BECAUSE ITS WRONG!!!!!!!!!

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

Did you just insult Stella?
I thought you were pure and above such petty behavior.
Be still my broken heart.

No I used Stella's own word back at her. Her insult to me came back to her because she was not informed!

 

[teknight]

No animal exhibits homosexual behavior

Really?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals
That must all be lies then, huh?

One quote, from the article:

Mallards

Mallards form male-female pairs only until the female lays eggs, at which time the male leaves the female. Mallards have rates of male-male sexual activity that are unusually high for birds, in some cases, as high as 19% of all pairs in a population.

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

It has not been shown at all. You lose.

Prove it.
You don't get to use "Obviously" in a logical argument. You can never assume something is "obvious."

You lose.
bullshit.

you lose.


As I have said before, gay folk can easily procreate, so you lose that one as well.

this is too easy...

It has been shown go back to Noira's post. I agree with her analysis there except for the part that all sin is equal!

 

[teknight]

No I used Stella's own word back at her. Her insult to me came back to her because she was not informed!

Still, brah, you insulted her, by using her own word back at her, for she meant to insult you. Don't mince words, you called her a moron, which is an insult, because you felt slighted. Don't lie, God will know if you have.

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

Really?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals
That must all be lies then, huh?

One quote, from the article:

No you're misunderstanding or deliberately confusing the issue to find evidence to support your lifestyle. Animals are not intelligent in the way humans are and do not have responsibility for their choices. You do. You are not an animal.

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

Still, brah, you insulted her, by using her own word back at her, for she meant to insult you. Don't mince words, you called her a moron, which is an insult, because you felt slighted. Don't lie, God will know if you have.

Well I'm only human. I've endured a lot of abuse from you guys and rarely bit back so forgive me for that one. I was annoyed that you criticize a detail of language when you're uninformed.

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

Christ said "no man is without sin," do you contradict him by calling yourself pure?

Christ said "judge not lest ye be judged," and yet you do so continuosly here. Do you get on your knees at night and beg Jesus forgiveness for telling other people they are going to hell?

thats not your judgement call to make, after all. Our relationships with God are our own, and even the gravest of sinners can earn his redempiton with God through a change of heart, can they not? And yet you run around telling complete strangers, who's hearts you do not know, that they are going to hell.

Honestly that just sounds like religious flavored troll behavior.

Christ said that the only sin that will not be forgiven, is the one you repent before doing.

So, if you did ask forgiveness for judging others, and then continue to do so; where do you suppose you're going?

Don't bother replying, I spotted this thread on a whim because Stella's a friend, & I've no intention of checking back.

Tend your own heart as you will, your redemtion is none of my buisness.

Not once did I say I was pure. I don't judge I don't see. Just bringing the Word. Its for your own good, because I love you all!

 

[teknight]

No you're misunderstanding or deliberately confusing the issue to find evidence to support your lifestyle. Animals are not intelligent in the way humans are and do not have responsibility for their choices. You do. You are not an animal.

Right. And you're doing the same thing. And you're dismissing contradictory evidence, too. Yup. This is dialog. Not.
Why do those animals exhibit homosexual behavior, though? God made them gay?

You've not replied to any of my questions, Wboro.

 

[teknight]

Well I'm only human. I've endured a lot of abuse from you guys and rarely bit back so forgive me for that one. I was annoyed that you criticize a detail of language when you're uninformed.

No. I cannot forgive you. You hold yourself to a higher standard, so, it is you who needs to apologize to her. I'm a sinner by your definition and I choose to be defiant. You, however, choose to be God's light in this darkened place, so you don't get to pull the mere human argument. If you, in your lofty moral tower are but a mere human, then none of your words mean anything. Apologize now, or lose any hope of being taken seriously. Don't be two faced. God won't like it.

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

Right. And you're doing the same thing. And you're dismissing contradictory evidence, too. Yup. This is dialog. Not.
Why do those animals exhibit homosexual behavior, though? God made them gay?

You've not replied to any of my questions, Wboro.

They don't exhibit homosexual behavior and I can't comment on it offhand because I'm not a scientist. One thing I'm sure of is that the behavior the scientists study is not similar to human homosexual behavior. You're looking at a study and drawing your own uninformed conclusions which is unscientific.