Gun Control or what?

[DeYaKen]

No it's not......

It sounds like "you moved into the desert without a plan to get water? That's what you get..."


And that's the reality way, being American has nothing to do with it.....moving into the desert without a plan for water is a bad idea 100% of the time worldwide.

As I understand it, a lot of these places were not deserts seven years ago. They were agricultural communities producing food that the rest of the country were happy to consume. After seven years without rain, they are no longer able to grow anything. I can only assume that they used to depend on ground water. What I find heartless is that you appear to be condemning these people for not predicting the drought.

Of course, I live in a tiny country so perhaps I can't comprehend the size of the problem but it seems to me that if you can carry the water in by pickup truck, you must be able to lay a pipe to supply them.

 

[Sean Renaud]

As I understand it, a lot of these places were not deserts seven years ago. They were agricultural communities producing food that the rest of the country were happy to consume. After seven years without rain, they are no longer able to grow anything. I can only assume that they used to depend on ground water. What I find heartless is that you appear to be condemning these people for not predicting the drought.

Of course, I live in a tiny country so perhaps I can't comprehend the size of the problem but it seems to me that if you can carry the water in by pickup truck, you must be able to lay a pipe to supply them.

You understand dead wrong. California (Southern anyway Northern isn't quite so bad) is a desert. Period. The fact that human ingenuity combined with sheer amounts of fuck you nature I do what I want have allowed to us to farm in a desert doesn't change that fact.

He may be heartless and maybe even for not predicting a drought. But it's like not predicting a hurricane in Florida. You knew the damn thing was coming you just didn't know WHEN it was going to happen but they are regular.

To your final point I think the size of your country is a stumbling point. From a geographical point of view it's much easier to think of the United States as an alliance of several countries, I'm fairly certain my state is larger than your country by most measures. (Geographic, I'm not talking population or economy at the moment.) We do have pipes and all over the place, hell I steel Bots water so I Can have lawns. . that I shouldn't have so he can keep more of his water. And if we DID cut back on that and did take other measures to conserve water we'd have a lot more left when this shit inevitably happens.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

obaNa .

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[BotanyBoy]

As I understand it, a lot of these places were not deserts seven years ago. They were agricultural communities producing food that the rest of the country were happy to consume. After seven years without rain, they are no longer able to grow anything.

Nope...they have been deserts for a LONG time...and if farmer didn't know before buying farm? We are simply back to farmer being so fucking stupid and ill-prepared he shouldn't be allowed to own anything anyhow much less a farm.

Reality is most of these communities that have no water are displaced indigents pushed into the valley by the gentrification of the LosDiego/SanFranJose metro areas. Too poor to afford municipal services and too stupid to leave the desert valley for greener lands and better opportunity because they would rather just sit about the desert with their hands out instead of going somewhere with water where they can farm. So fuck em...

I can only assume that they used to depend on ground water. What I find heartless is that you appear to be condemning these people for not predicting the drought.

I condemn them for piss poor planning, preparation and over trusting of the government both CA and federal to take care of this issue in any sort of timely manner.

They are god damn adults and if you're moving into a super expensive desert state you had better have your fuckin' game face on and at the very least an escape plan.

Of course, I live in a tiny country so perhaps I can't comprehend the size of the problem but it seems to me that if you can carry the water in by pickup truck, you must be able to lay a pipe to supply them.

It's not a matter of laying pipe...it's a matter of x amount of water and if you can't afford the bill/permits then tough shit.....move to fuckin' Ohio.

 

[DeYaKen]

It's not a matter of laying pipe...it's a matter of x amount of water and if you can't afford the bill/permits then tough shit.....move to fuckin' Ohio.

So in the end, it is a matter of "Fuck you Jack. I'm OK"

 

[BotanyBoy]

So in the end, it is a matter of "Fuck you Jack. I'm OK"

No it's a matter of move to the city and pay the price or get your own water in the desert.

There is no fuck your or I'm ok from where I'm sitting.

You either live in a developed part of the Desert (a city with water infrastructure) or you take responsibility for your own needs. There is no malicious 'fuck you!' about it or a neglecting "I'm ok so I don't care". issue going on. When you leave the infrastructure of a city you have to take care of your own utilities, that's a 100% inescapable law of being a human on this planet. From the jungles of the Amazon, to the mountains of Asia to the most sophisticated up it's own ass Eurotrash shit hole....you move away from infrastructure? You better get your shit together quick.


CA pretty much won't deny a residential well permit and anyone is free to buy a truck/tank and haul it in.


THEN at that point yea if they are too fucking dumb to file paperwork or pick up the phone then fuck em, they are too stupid to live and I hope they die before they are allowed to pollute the human gene pool.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

can't forgot to be honest like hillary and bill ... and obaNa

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[Sean Renaud]

So in the end, it is a matter of "Fuck you Jack. I'm OK"

Nope. Like Bot said these people mostly did it to themselves, I'm sure we can find some exceptions but choosing farm a desert is stupid to begin with but we forced that shit to work. Moving to where we haven't developed enough to help you is your own doing. Go be minimum wage in the city, collect your welfare and cry about it.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

truth ....

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[JackLuis]

So in the end, it is a matter of "Fuck you Jack. I'm OK"

Not really in the Kern River valley, which is the area BB and SR are talking about maybe, the water system is either snow runoff or ground water, in the last 100 years that area has drained one large lake and pumped ground water soooo bad, that the ground has sunk several feet, collapsing the aquafier and reducing the amount that the ground water can recharge.

Add the drought that California has suffered for the last few years and there is just no more water! So the big farmers want to drain the upper Sacramento valley, killing off the fish and wild life so they can get more water for their cotton. Of course that doesn't help the poor family farmers who depend on their shallow wells to be able to drink and bathe.

So it's more like, "Fuck you poor farmers who aren't corporate, Corporations are People who Matter!"

 

[NeverEndingMe]

yes gun control

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[BotanyBoy]

So it's more like, "Fuck you poor farmers who aren't corporate, Corporations are People who Matter!"

How? Those people fucked their shit up and now they want to fuck the north state up to keep doing their same bullshit and there just isn't any water for that.

You don't go destroy another part of the state to cater to a bunch of folks who shit in their own lucky charms.

Corporations have fuck all to do with it other than the fact that every farm out there is one.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

as soon as the obama gives up his guns....and all those "protecting" it

 

[JackLuis]

How? Those people fucked their shit up and now they want to fuck the north state up to keep doing their same bullshit and there just isn't any water for that.

You don't go destroy another part of the state to cater to a bunch of folks who shit in their own lucky charms.

Corporations have fuck all to do with it other than the fact that every farm out there is one.

I know BB, you could just say I was right, but it wouldn't fit your cumugendry would it?

 

[BotanyBoy]

I know BB, you could just say I was right, but it wouldn't fit your cumugendry would it?

Except you're not....all farmers poor and rich are corporate.

So....

So it's more like, "Fuck you poor farmers who aren't corporate, Corporations are People who Matter!"

Doesn't make any sense.

 

[JackLuis]

Except you're not....all farmers poor and rich are corporate.

So....


Doesn't make any sense.

Are you sure you're not a lawyer?

 

[BotanyBoy]

LOL just a small time farmer.....

 

[Ubiquitious_too]

LOL just a small time farmer.....

Well, that explains a lot...

 

[BotanyBoy]

Well, that explains a lot...

Oh this ought to be good...


Please, do tell what is is you think....you know based upon that tidbit of info.

What exactly does my being a farmer explain to you?

 

[JackLuis]

Flori-duh!​

‘I’ll kill you right now’: Florida man opens fire at McDonald’s restaurant after dispute over order escalates

An argument over food at a Miami-Dade fast food restaurant escalated into gunfire on Saturday, NBC6 reports.

The incident happened at a McDonald’s restaurant at about 12:30 p.m. local time in Miami-Dade. Witnesses told the station it started when an older man yelled at another customer, telling him that his order was ready.

This led to an argument that escalated, witnesses said.

“[They were] talking stupid to each other, then [the suspect] took out the gun and said, ‘I’ll kill you right now,'” witness Wilder Smith told WSVN.

Avoid Flori-duh, crazy fuckers are there!

 

[JackLuis]

Hope you had a Merry Christmas my fellow perverts.

‘Twas the week before Christmas and all through the store
the gun sales were soaring like never before.
The shotguns were stored in glass cases with care,
in fear that NoBama would some day be there.

While children were juiced on some energy drink,
mom bought them rifles, some black and some pink.
Where the exercise equipment once used to be,
they purchased their ammo, not one box, but three.

When by the old greeter there arose such a clatter,
maybe Bundy Ranch psychos causing people to scatter.
Or maybe some dick with a bomb in a bag,
unable to buy a Confederate flag.

Let’s skip ahead a couple of stanzas,
and something something Tony Danza.
The Ghost of Sam Walton, decrepit but swell,
digs the decor of red shotgun shells.

Then into the break room he’ll noisily crash,
and fire some fella for returning some cash.
We hear him exclaim like a big fucking jerk,
“Merry Christmas to all, Now get back to work.”