Gun Control or what?

[Ubiquitious_too]

Ask the World Health Organisation. They produced the show about ending extreme poverty. They showed a Californian family living on foodbank parcels. They have to buy their water from a guy with a pickup truck who drives into town to fill up their barrels. It is apparently due to the drought that you have there. When they had water they could grow vegetables but now it's just a barren plot. I thought that they must be isolated but they had metalled roads and the girl could walk to the foodbank to collect her parcel and carry it back home

Of course, there were other kids who were eking out an existence on rubbish tips in Africa and working in sweatshops in India. They had a much harder life. However, it was the site of a young girl having to carry water around in buckets, in the richest country in the world, that grabbed my attention. Not only the richest country but, according to you, the richest state in the richest country.

Of course, I am not a politician so you will expect more evidence than that.
How about this?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/george-mcgraw/live-without-running-water-in-america_b_8011310.html

and here is another one

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/08/drought-no-running-water-east-porterville

You can find plenty more by Googling Californians without running water.

To me it seems like a sad indictment of the richest state in the richest country in the world. Almost as sad as hurling personal insults when you can't find an argument.

Sorry- I thought you were addressing me about Communities without running water. Everyone knows California has that problem, but not here where I live.

 

[Ubiquitious_too]

Where did you learn to spell, Ubiquitous?

I know how to spell ubiquitous- It was taken when I re-signed up here.
As if it's really your concern? Or are you just looking for another argument??

 

[BotanyBoy]

If you are so well off why are there whole communities in your state without a basic requirement, like Running water?

Because they are fuckin' morons who obviously didn't plan their community for shit. Running out of water is kinda what happens when you move into the desert and stick your head up your ass.

I promise this is not a unique issue to California.

Or you know, get the desal and let those fuckers pay for the majority of it. I suspect the citrus is probably worth it.

Because

1) they won't just charge rice/citrus farmers.....they will charge all farmers and they will RIP US OFF, like they always do.

2) It would just be easier and like several years faster to yank permits of those burning the most absurd amounts of water during extreme drought. Just some basic management of the water resources.

 

[Sean Renaud]

1. You're probably right. Though depending on how nuts the tax was it might STILL be a working plan but you're probably right. After all those guys have pretty massive lobbies.

2. Those guys have pretty massive lobbies. I don't even need to look up Big Beef and Big Citrus to know your chances of pulling their permits in one of the nations leading producers of Orange Juice and Big Macs isn't something that is particularly likely. The best you can realistically hope for is finding ways to bring them to the table. I'm uncertain about cows but Citrus need X amount of sunshine and tempratures so it's not like you could realistically move those crops to a lot of those worthless middle of the country places and expect them to still actually produce what we're used to.

If we're talking strictly from a "green" movement stance an increase in the price of beef is not entirely undesirable. There is sufficient evidence that speaking from a health standpoint it may not be a terrible choice either. But speaking from the most important stance, a cultural one you might want to try for some lower hanging fruit.

 

[BotanyBoy]

1. You're probably right. Though depending on how nuts the tax was it might STILL be a working plan but you're probably right. After all those guys have pretty massive lobbies.

Oh it could work for sure I just don't want to get stuck being fucked once again for the piss poor decision making of a bunch of idiots 600 fucking miles away because they were stupid enough to try and grow such water intense crops in the god damn desert.

Shit is god damn infuriating that not a single person in this state can look at these idiots and say "STOP BEING SO FUCKING DUMB!" nope....they have to come in and fuck everyone else to help morons continue to be fucking morons.

2. Those guys have pretty massive lobbies. I don't even need to look up Big Beef and Big Citrus to know your chances of pulling their permits in one of the nations leading producers of Orange Juice and Big Macs isn't something that is particularly likely. The best you can realistically hope for is finding ways to bring them to the table. I'm uncertain about cows but Citrus need X amount of sunshine and tempratures so it's not like you could realistically move those crops to a lot of those worthless middle of the country places and expect them to still actually produce what we're used to.

Yep...iss all big money.

The south could produce all the citrus and rice the country would need with plenty left over to export. But the south doesn't give their farmers a bunch of welfare nor do they go rob other folks water for the rich man in the desert. That's that corrupt as all fuck liburhul bullshit doing that.

If we're talking strictly from a "green" movement stance an increase in the price of beef is not entirely undesirable. There is sufficient evidence that speaking from a health standpoint it may not be a terrible choice either. But speaking from the most important stance, a cultural one you might want to try for some lower hanging fruit.

Oh yea.....well it is American culture to do shit the most difficult way possible instead of going for the easy rational solution. So fuck it...CA is going to be fucking retarded and I'll just keep sticking up my customers ass until they stop buying and I have to finally cash out of CA and leave.

 

[phrodeau]

I know how to spell ubiquitous- It was taken when I re-signed up here.
As if it's really your concern? Or are you just looking for another argument??

It plays against your judgment of others as fools.

 

[JackLuis]

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Oh yea.....well it is American culture to do shit the most difficult way possible instead of going for the easy rational solution. So fuck it...CA is going to be fucking retarded and I'll just keep sticking up my customers ass until they stop buying and I have to finally cash out of CA and leave.

I hear Mississippi and Alabama have water, land is cheaper too.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I hear Mississippi and Alabama have water, land is cheaper too.

Gross....you couldn't pay me to live there, I'll be going north when I'm done sucking all the money I can out of this state, or the state shows up to tax me into oblivion and take my water to support idiots farming the desert. Whichever happens first.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I don't know if he REALLY said it or not but Winston Churchill is credited with saying: Americans will always do the right thing, after they've exhausted all other possibilities.

Truer words were never spoken.

 

[Ubiquitious_too]

Because they are fuckin' morons who obviously didn't plan their community for shit. Running out of water is kinda what happens when you move into the desert and stick your head up your ass.

I promise this is not a unique issue to California.



Because

1) they won't just charge rice/citrus farmers.....they will charge all farmers and they will RIP US OFF, like they always do.

2) It would just be easier and like several years faster to yank permits of those burning the most absurd amounts of water during extreme drought. Just some basic management of the water resources.

More Liberal State Socialism- Fuck someone to give it to someone else. That's why you must buy POWER in Cal too- bc you're too damn liberal to generate your own.

 

[BotanyBoy]

More Liberal State Socialism- Fuck someone to give it to someone else. That's why you must buy POWER in Cal too- bc you're too damn liberal to generate your own.

That's not a liberal state thing, that's all state things.

Conservative state socialism is the same fucking shit, they just fuck different groups of people and cite their own reasons for doing it. Shit conservatives CREATE problems fucking people over so they can sell solutions at asshole prices to tax payers.

No one generates their own power, it's bestowed upon pols by the voters and purchased at auction by those with money. If you get priced out of your power market you gotta bail for a different state that better suits your needs.

That's how shit works in America, no exceptions.

 

[Ubiquitious_too]

That's not a liberal state thing, that's all state things.

Conservative state socialism is the same fucking shit, they just fuck different groups of people and cite their own reasons for doing it. Shit conservatives CREATE problems fucking people over so they can sell solutions at asshole prices to tax payers.

No one generates their own power, it's bestowed upon pols by the voters and purchased at auction by those with money. If you get priced out of your power market you gotta bail for a different state that better suits your needs.

That's how shit works in America, no exceptions.

You are a sick PUPPY, Son.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I don't know if he REALLY said it or not but Winston Churchill is credited with saying: Americans will always do the right thing, after they've exhausted all other possibilities.

Truer words were never spoken.

Yep....drives me FUCKIN NUTS.

 

[BotanyBoy]

You are a sick PUPPY, Son.

Understanding the reality of the situation instead of buying into a partisan ideology is not an illness....I'm sorry...you're just wrong.

 

[Sean Renaud]

More Liberal State Socialism- Fuck someone to give it to someone else. That's why you must buy POWER in Cal too- bc you're too damn liberal to generate your own.

Liberal state socialim that has created the strongest economies on either coast? Only Texas comes CLOSE to competing and the numbers show them as a distant third despite having all the advantages in the world. The reality is you cannot compete with socialism because it's simply superior.

California produces 100% of it's own power. Now we DID deregulate a ways back and trust the free market and got bit in the ass a bit for it but that seems to have ultimately fallen under alls well that ends well. But we not only generate our own but we get more than a fifth of it being liberals.

Care to pull your next lie?

Yep....drives me FUCKIN NUTS.

Amen brother. I still think Desal is a money move. But I would outlaw lawns in Cali overnight. You don't get green grass you fucks! You get colorful rocks and cacti!

 

[Ubiquitious_too]

Understanding the reality of the situation instead of buying into a partisan ideology is not an illness....I'm sorry...you're just wrong.

Hahahahahahahahahaha
and, you're just an ass.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Amen brother. I still think Desal is a money move. But I would outlaw lawns in Cali overnight. You don't get green grass you fucks! You get colorful rocks and cacti!

It would probably be a smooth move.

I still think some de-corrupting or un-clusterfucking how we manage our water as a state would be just as if not more of a money move. We have a lot of stupid fuck policies out there within the ag community as far as water management goes.

I can only assume that stupid/corrupt bullshit extends to other commercial enterprises where major water use and money making get together.

Lawns in SoCal should simply be banned because duh, along with water fountains and all teh other "hey let's waste as much water as we can for shits n' giggles!" stuff around. Accept that you live in a desert....embrace it....learn to love it.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Hahahahahahahahahaha
and, you're just an ass.

Maybe so but I'm right.....war on drugz is a prime example.

How many millions of Americans rely on that Republican 'conservative' lie for billions in funding (welfare) paid for with the ruined lives of millions of Americans and the cold hard cash out of the pockets of the rest??

Monsanto basically buys (R) and they write up legislation allowing Monsanto to go butt fuck the American family farm into oblivion with total impunity and god like authority in the matter....real life evil corp shit.

I can go on.....point is Republicans/conservatives do the same fucking shit....they just dress it up differently and sell it with a different catch phrase/1 liner that get's the derps riled up.

The only REAL difference in the two parties is what industries they are employed by to go get taxpayer money/legal favor. That is to say all that philosophical shit is bull fuckin' shit...it's about the money, politics is just bidnizz.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Hahahahahahahahahaha
and, you're just an ass.

No seriously, show me where Cali doesn't produce power.

 

[Ubiquitious_too]

No seriously, show me where Cali doesn't produce power.

I did;t say they don't produce power- Cal. is a net buyer of power.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I did;t say they don't produce power- Cal. is a net buyer of power.

Did not liar.....

More Liberal State Socialism- Fuck someone to give it to someone else. That's why you must buy POWER in Cal too- bc you're too damn liberal to generate your own.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I did;t say they don't produce power- Cal. is a net buyer of power.

Okay that's not what you said, but I'd love for you to back that up. It's possible mind you that we do. We do have a crap ton of people and businesses here. But it seems unlikely. after all we are the 16th largest electricity creator as of 2014 after we shut down one of our nuclear plants. We used to be 11th.

So do you have facts and figures you'd like to share or is this more stuff everybody knows. Like that California is the the 3rd largest oil producing state and 3rd largest refining state. If you want to blame it on our sheer size that's cool, it doesn't change the facts but it is true that it's hardly fair to ask whatever pissant state your from to compete with a genuine behemoth. It's a bit like asking why no poodle ever won a dog sledding competition.

 

[DeYaKen]

Because they are fuckin' morons who obviously didn't plan their community for shit. Running out of water is kinda what happens when you move into the desert and stick your head up your ass.

I promise this is not a unique issue to California.

Sounds a bit like "Fuck you jack, I'm okay" Is that the American way?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Sounds a bit like "Fuck you jack, I'm okay" Is that the American way?

No it's not......

It sounds like "you moved into the desert without a plan to get water? That's what you get..."


And that's the reality way, being American has nothing to do with it.....moving into the desert without a plan for water is a bad idea 100% of the time worldwide.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

obama is Hitler 2.0

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