Has V8RWB plagiarised another story?

[soulhouse]

I hope this deserves a new thread, because my previous one regarding the plagiarising of my story series, Fucked Stupid, had exhausted itself, and this deserves attention beyond languishing at the bottom of that thread. Please forgive me if that is bad form.

Having decided last night to read all 3 parts of "Simple Takeover", I now wonder whether the author plagiarised another work on Literotica for the only other story he has published, in December, here: https://www.literotica.com/s/conchita-the-seductress. Since I have very limited knowledge of writers and their stories on Literotica, I have no idea beyond one or two red flags. Maybe someone with greater knowledge of other authors' writing styles might wish to take a look.

It was a peculiar experience reading "his"/my story, because so much was very familiar. As mentioned, he'd sometimes changed names (Valeria to Valentina, Haverstone to Smithstone, for instance), but frequently kept exactly the same phrases to describe physical appearance. For instance, the ditzy blonde seductress with big breasts who turns out to be a calculating predator still wears a sparkling gold mini-dress. While the writing style felt familiarly mine in places, if I hadn't known the characters already I'd have formed little sense of who they were. Overall, he had kept most of the same plot points, but moved them around a little or extended them with almost non-stop sex. I looked at his list of favourites (which doesn't include Fucked Stupid, funnily) and authors he follows and noticed that mixed wrestling / sex fighting figures fairly prominently. There was a distinct sex fighting hue to his extended sex scenes, even if they did seem to rely largely on the principles I had established for their sexiness. In fact, to my mind, his version might be best described as porn rather than erotica, being so heavy on sex and short on character.

What confuses me about it all is why he went to all the trouble of writing what he clearly thought an improved version of my own story series, moving action points, extending and partially rewriting sex scenes, but couldn't be bothered to change names, descriptions or substantial sections of text, to the point I would have recognised the influence of my story but have had no grounds for complaint (as I have noticed previously).

That brings me back around to my initial statement that I now doubt the only other story he has published (4 days earlier) is really his own. I can't be bothered to read it, as it's pretty awful from the little I skimmed and has a weird habit of changing first person POV every couple of paragraphs, but it is so entirely different from mine, except in theme, that it leads me to conclude that either he has a style which he established in that first story and then entirely abandoned in deciding to plagiarise mine, or that he plagiarised both. Not only is the writing style entirely different, but it is also 20.5K words long, whereas his version of my story series consists of 3 parts, 7.7K, 3K and 3.2K words in length.

PS I assume Laurel is a very busy lady, but, if she decides it deserves removing, when is that likely to happen?

 

[Writer61]

I hope this deserves a new thread, because my previous one regarding the plagiarising of my story series, Fucked Stupid, had exhausted itself, and this deserves attention beyond languishing at the bottom of that thread.

Probably because nobody has anything to add.

I can't be bothered to read it, as it's pretty awful from the little I skimmed and has a weird habit of changing first person POV every couple of paragraphs,

So, you want somebody else to do what you're not bothered to do?

I'm out.

PS I assume Laurel is a very busy lady, but, if she decides it deserves removing, when is that likely to happen?

All evidence suggests that she has a lot on her plate. How long will it take her to get to your complaint? I have no idea.

 

[ElectricBlue]

PS I assume Laurel is a very busy lady, but, if she decides it deserves removing, when is that likely to happen?

The issue with a suspicion of plagiarism, is that you have to identify the source of the possibly stolen content.

From what you describe, the disembodied text, and the similar construction to your own work, it might be that this person has plagiarised another writer's content, but how do you ever prove it? You'd either have to search and find the source material, or have the other author say, "Gee, that might be mine, I'll go take a look." Which assumes the author frequents the AH and spots this thread, which is highly unlikely. I'm not aware of anyone here who writes sex fighting stories.

 

[soulhouse]

Probably because nobody has anything to add.

I know. I'm fine with that, thanks.

 

[soulhouse]

So, you want somebody else to do what you're not bothered to do?

I'm out.

Not at all, but judging by my last thread about the clear plagiarism of my story, when a few authors wanted it reported immediately, I thought someone with greater knowledge than I might want to take a look. Obviously, it's no skin off my nose.

 

[soulhouse]

All evidence suggests that she has a lot on her plate. How long will it take her to get to your complaint? I have no idea.

Thanks. Maybe it would be a good idea for you to read my previous thread to understand why it was not I who considered the matter very important.

 

[soulhouse]

The issue with a suspicion of plagiarism, is that you have to identify the source of the possibly stolen content.

From what you describe, the disembodied text, and the similar construction to your own work, it might be that this person has plagiarised another writer's content, but how do you ever prove it? You'd either have to search and find the source material, or have the other author say, "Gee, that might be mine, I'll go take a look." Which assumes the author frequents the AH and spots this thread, which is highly unlikely. I'm not aware of anyone here who writes sex fighting stories.

I agree it would be very tricky. It's a non-con story, as far as I can tell, and probably has nothing to do with sex fighting. I thought that maybe other authors might want to know of its existence, but, as I replied to Writer61, I thought maybe I was doing a public service by informing others of my suspicions. I guess not, if all I have done is unintentionally irritated someone, but that's easily done these days, apparently.

 

[Writer61]

Thanks. Maybe it would be a good idea for you to read my previous thread to understand why it was not I who considered the matter very important.

1) I don't comment on posts I haven't read thoroughly.

2) You have now written two long posts on something that you claim is not important. Pull the other one.

Not at all, but judging by my last thread about the clear plagiarism of my story, when a few authors wanted it reported immediately, I thought someone with greater knowledge than I might want to take a look. Obviously, it's no skin off my nose.

They were absolutely right to encourage you to report plagiarism of your story immediately.

But, with the other story, asking others to do the legwork that you cannot be arsed to do is unreasonable.

 

[soulhouse]

1) I don't comment on posts I haven't read thoroughly.

2) You have now written two long posts on something that you claim is not important. Pull the other one.

Oh dear. I'm sorry for wasting your time. I didn't claim to consider the matter unimportant for others.

I thought maybe if you read the other thread you might learn that I am and have been very seriously ill for a number of years and have the decency not to try to pick an argument where there is none. Unfortunately, stress causes me extreme pain at present, which is why I generally try to avoid posting online, unless there is good reason. There are some lovely, supportive folk here, such as @ElectricBlue, @TarnishedPenny, @MillieDynamite and @lovecraft68, and then there's you. I gave up on this forum a few years back because of the few bitter folk that frequent it and have even more reason to do so now. Have fun making arguments out of nothing with someone who is willing to waste their time on you, mate.

 

[Writer61]

Oh dear. I'm sorry for wasting your time. I didn't claim to consider the matter unimportant for others.

I thought maybe if you read the other thread you might learn that I am and have been very seriously ill for a number of years and have the decency not to try to pick an argument where there is none. Unfortunately, stress causes me extreme pain at present, which is why I generally try to avoid posting online, unless there is good reason. There are some lovely, supportive folk here, such as @ElectricBlue, @TarnishedPenny, @MillieDynamite and @lovecraft68, and then there's you. I gave up on this forum a few years back because of the few bitter folk that frequent it and have even more reason to do so now. Have fun making arguments out of nothing with someone who is willing to waste their time on you, mate.

Yes, I read that, and I'm sorry for what you have been going through.

The only person starting an argument is you.

The only person asking others to waste their time is you.

You imply that I am bitter; you are wrong.

You imply that I am a reason for you avoid this forum again; you are wrong.

I hope your recovery continues.

 

[MrHereWriting]

You imply that I am bitter; you are wrong.

That, you can be right about, because they don't know your mental/emotional state.

You imply that I am a reason for you avoid this forum again; you are wrong.

But this, you aren't right about. If you are one of the reasons they choose to avoid this forum, then you are one of those reasons, that's the way it is.

But the only person starting an argument is you, and the only person asking others to waste their time is you.

Who are you to decide who's wasting their time on what?

So, you want somebody else to do what you're not bothered to do?

I'm out.

Let's be honest here, that's passive-aggressive behavior in your first response. You're either looking to make someone feel stupid or you're being a bully and that's the kind of behavior committed by someone looking to start an argument.

 

[Writer61]

That, you can be right about, because they don't know your mental/emotional state.

I am right. That you implied doubt is insulting.

But this, you aren't right about. If you are one of the reasons they choose to avoid this forum, then you are one of those reasons, that's the way it is.

No, that isn't the way it is. As far as I can tell, I only joined Lit after the OP stopped posting. You are wrong.

Who are you to decide who's wasting their time on what?

Really? The OP is asking others to do work he will not do. Seems like a textbook definition of time-wasting.

Let's be honest here, that's passive-aggressive behavior in your first response. You're either looking to make someone feel stupid or you're being a bully and that's the kind of behavior committed by someone looking to start an argument.

You think I am being passive-aggressive? Look in the mirror.

 

[AwkwardMD]

Unrelated to this thread, I already went looking.

I did not find an equivalent story on Lit that Conchita might have come from. My methods were probably pretty crude, but I don't think there's a source it was copied from on Literotica

 

[MrHereWriting]

I am right. That you implied doubt is insulting.

I said you were right. You may have not liked the wording, but that's not my problem.

No, that isn't the way it is. As far as I can tell, I only joined Lit after the OP stopped posting. You are wrong.

They're posting now and judging by what they said, "even more reason to do so now," you are included in that "now" group. Deal with it.

Really? The OP is asking others to do work he will not do. Seems like a textbook definition of time-wasting.

You don't get to decide what other people consider a "waste of their time." That's a fact.

You think I am being passive-aggressive? Look in the mirror.

I made straight forward observations. If you can't see that, then maybe you need to work on not being so defensive.

Edit: Thanks for voting multiple times on my stories!

 

[Writer61]

I said you were right. You may have not liked the wording, but that's not my problem.

Way to hide. Your words are your responsibility.

They're posting now and judging by what they said, "even more reason to do so now," you are included in that "now" group. Deal with it.

If he cannot cope with reasonable comment, which is what I offered, it is his problem.

You don't get to decide what other people consider a "waste of their time." That's a fact.

No, of course not, what I said was that he was asking people to waste their time. Whether they did, or not, was their decision.

I made straight forward observations. If you can't see that, then maybe you need to work on not being so defensive.

Attack me and I will defend myself. Deal with it.

Edit: Thanks for voting multiple times on my stories!

You are welcome.

 

[MrHereWriting]

You are welcome.

Now we know soulhouse's comments on your bitterness are true.

And now we know you downvote stories multiple times when you're upset at people.

It's good to see you for who you really are.

 

[Writer61]

Now we know soulhouse's comments on your bitterness are true.

WTAF?

That is such an unjustified conclusion.

And now we know you downvote stories multiple times when you're upset at people.

Um, no. I have never done that. But from here on, I might make an exception for you.

It's good to see you for who you really are.

You need to get your eyesight checked.

 

[MrHereWriting]

WTAF?

That is such an unjustified conclusion.


Um, no. I have never done that. But from here on, I might make an exception for you.


You need to get your eyesight checked.

Let's see, between the time you gave me your little angry face on my post, responded to my post and I responded to yours, my stories were downvoted to the point it was obvious, including one that has been at it's same rating for months if not over a year.

Not a coincidence.

Now, I'm going to have some lunch and enjoy the sun for a while.

 

[Writer61]

Let's see, between the time you gave me your little angry face on my post, responded to my post and I responded to yours, my stories were downvoted to the point it was obvious, including one that has been at it's same rating for months if not over a year.

Not a coincidence.

Now, I'm going to have some lunch and enjoy the sun for a while.

Let's see, I have not looked at any stories for weeks. So, don't blame me.

Perhaps somebody with fewer scruples than I has reacted to you being a dick, or just thinks you write rubbish.

 

[Dodola]

Let's see, I have not looked at any stories for weeks. So, don't blame me.

Perhaps somebody with fewer scruples than I has reacted to you being a dick, or just thinks you write rubbish.

You called someone a  dick?

How offensive! You should have been reported!

I can't believe other Authors defend you in these threads.

Oh wait, yes I can.

 

[Writer61]

You called someone a  dick?

How offensive! You should have been reported!

I can't believe other Authors defend you in these threads.

Oh wait, yes I can.

I did not call him a dick; I was speculating about people's reasons for downvoting him.

 

[Dodola]

"Way to hide"

 

[Writer61]

"Way to hide"

Oh dear, you might not like my explanation, but I meant what I said.

There are probably other possible explanations. But, as I have not downvoted him, I cannot be sure. You will have to ask them.

 

[Dodola]

Oh dear, you might not like my explanation, but I meant what I said.

There are probably other possible explanations. But, as I have not downvoted him, I cannot be sure.

Gotcha.
You were just trying to be helpful pointing that out for him.
It's obvious to me now, that you're just a polite person, hanging around minding your own business, making helpful comments that get "misunderstood", and people just keep unfairly attacking you.

My apologies.

 

[Writer61]

Gotcha.

No, you clearly don't.

You were just trying to be helpful pointing that out for him.

No, I was responding to his baseless accusation that I downvoted him.

It's obvious to me now, that you're just a polite person,

Yes, I try to be polite, but sometimes I slip up when faced with unjustified comments.

hanging around minding your own business,

Like you inserting yourself into a disagreement between others?

making helpful comments that get "misunderstood", and people just keep unfairly attacking you.

I do my best to be helpful. Sadly, I find that some people on these forums struggle to understand reasonable points and make unfair attacks.

My apologies.

Thanks, but I don't think you are being sincere. If you are, then I apologise in return.