Hasan Piker

[Chernosoth]

The Jews have lived continuously in Israel for thousands of years. Why should they move?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel

• Jews and others: 19.1 births/1,000 population
• Muslims: 23.4 births/1,000 population

If you want them to stay in Israel when Jewish is a minority, then you are welcome to move there and join the minority. You could tell your husband to marry more wives and have more kids.

Jews were nomadic tribes, as more people will be again. Always moving on to better pasture is one of the enduring survival strategies of human existence.

 

[Bray123]

The Jews have lived continuously in Israel for thousands of years. Why should they move?

People have lived continuously on the land you call Israel for thousands of years. Why should they move?

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

People have lived continuously on the land you call Israel for thousands of years. Why should they move?

The Arabs and Egyptians who call themselves "Palestinians" today have relatively shallow roots in the land. 100 years ago "Palestinian" meant Jew. The Arabs of the Levant preferred the name "Syrian" back then.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Israel

If you want them to stay in Israel when Jewish is a minority, then you are welcome to move there and join the minority. You could tell your husband to marry more wives and have more kids.

Jews were nomadic tribes, as more people will be again. Always moving on to better pasture is one of the enduring survival strategies of human existence.

Those numbers include the Arab communities of the West Bank. Thank you for demonstrating that the genocide claim is false.

 

[Bray123]

The Arabs and Egyptians who call themselves "Palestinians" today have relatively shallow roots in the land. 100 years ago "Palestinian" meant Jew. The Arabs of the Levant preferred the name "Syrian" back then.

No.

 

[icanhelp1]

Geopolitical opinion above my pay grade

1) I take racism and vitriol seriously. Someone telling racial joke? I turn and walk away. No punch line for me. Just how I prefer. Not all are pernicious, but not my thang

2) Saudi A (a family business entrusted with the holy sites) has more light crude than than CPAC has daddies in the closet. Right up on the surface. Easier than stealing. (See, not much low level stealing in Saudi A) Light crude. On the surface. They seemingly have little use for nuclear reactor (managed by Pakistanis?). An accident fouling the holy sites? Leadership dead.

3) Trump fucks over his "friends" and wives worse than enemies. Not knowing this, Gulf states paid proper fortunes to Trump & family.some racial jokes are hilarious. People have become overseas

4): Trump's excursion above Iran fucked the gulf states and hard. Maybe for decades. So, what's a grifter to do? Trump gave "go" to a Saudi A breeder nuclear reactor. I guess Republicans like globalists now. America ain't first.

5) And, obviously, some of this reactor fuel has Israeli intentions all over it. Residents of Israel and those holding it dear are learning, and will learn, a simple truth: cultivating Trump as a friend is nothing less than a historic disaster.

6) Back to anti-Semitic speech. It's a problem. Not remotely, no how, THE problem

Some racial jokes are hilarious. People are over sensitized to race. People need to laugh at oneself. Don Rickles was extremely funny, he disarmed his African American audiences and made them laugh.

 

[Chernosoth]

Those numbers include the Arab communities of the West Bank. Thank you for demonstrating that the genocide claim is false.

Enough people have been hurt or killed to make a lasting grudge. When Israeli Jews are surrounded by enemies and outnumbered in their own nation, deciding to leave then may be too late.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Enough people have been hurt or killed to make a lasting grudge. When Israeli Jews are surrounded by enemies and outnumbered in their own nation, deciding to leave then may be too late.

There is no place for the Israeli Jews to flee to. It’s not like the French in Algeria, where they could run back to France when things went south.

Israel is the Jewish homeland. The idea that Jews could survive in permanent diaspora died with the 6 million in the Holocaust.

Most of the Jews in Israel are descended from refugees who fled ethnic cleansing in other parts of the Middle East. It’s the final redoubt.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Zionism hasn’t changed its definition. It just became cool on the left to hate Jews and support radical Islam.

Zionism is the political terrorist movement that hides behind the Jewish religion.

I see it as a continuation / expansion of the Russian propaganda campaign from 2015 - 2016.

It is ALL connected.

Utter nonsense.

 

[butters]

I find it mind-boggling how the pro-Israeli-violence faction continue to paint Israel as the victim... when it is abundantly clear to anyone not blinkered by religious affiliations that it is the Israeli gov't as aggressor, pushing out Palestinians in any area they want to through violent means, unwilling to share a land were two countries could coexist in relative peace. The Israeli gov't is hell-bent on claiming the total landscape as "Israel" while clutching their blood-stained pearls in manufactured fear, unwilling to cede that Palestinian lives are just as important as theirs and that they are deliberately inflaming thousands of years of conflicts to keep Palestinians the bogeyman.

Before anyone conflates my sentiments about the Israeli gov't with how I feel about Jewish people in order to call me an anti-semite, I treat all creeds, religions, genders, ages et al the same: as individual people who I treat with respect and friendliness right up to that point when they show me they do not deserve that. SO I don't give a monkey's arse if someone's a jew or a christian, a buddhist or an atheist. I judge others on who they are, not what they are.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

I find it mind-boggling how the pro-Israeli-violence faction continue to paint Israel as the victim... when it is abundantly clear to anyone not blinkered by religious affiliations that it is the Israeli gov't as aggressor, pushing out Palestinians in any area they want to through violent means, unwilling to share a land were two countries could coexist in relative peace. The Israeli gov't is hell-bent on claiming the total landscape as "Israel" while clutching their blood-stained pearls in manufactured fear, unwilling to cede that Palestinian lives are just as important as theirs and that they are deliberately inflaming thousands of years of conflicts to keep Palestinians the bogeyman.

Before anyone conflates my sentiments about the Israeli gov't with how I feel about Jewish people in order to call me an anti-semite, I treat all creeds, religions, genders, ages et al the same: as individual people who I treat with respect and friendliness right up to that point when they show me they do not deserve that. SO I don't give a monkey's arse if someone's a jew or a christian, a buddhist or an atheist. I judge others on who they are, not what they are.

I’ll let Einat Wilf answer for me.

This is her defending Israel at the Oxford Union from the proposition that “Israel never truly wanted peace”.

I’ll ask you what she asks the audience at the end: “When did the Palestinians ever truly want peace with the one Jewish state?”

 

[OralAllOver]

The Jews have lived continuously in Israel for thousands of years. Why should they move?

To be clear, non-Jews have lived in what is now Israel (and the Levant) for thousands of years. A lot more of them than Jews.

To me, the Ottoman Emp controlled that territory. Purely voluntarily and greedily it entered the horrible WW1. If it didn't want to lose that area it shouldn't have lost the war. Or joined in the slaughter. Britain got it as a principal winner and gave it to the new Israeli state (after horrific, ungrateful terrorism).

I truly don't understand the dispute. Wars matter, huge wars matter a lot. Pretending otherwise is delusional

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

To be clear, non-Jews have lived in what is now Israel (and the Levant) for thousands of years. A lot more of them than Jews.

To me, the Ottoman Emp controlled that territory. Purely voluntarily and greedily it entered the horrible WW1. If it didn't want to lose that area it shouldn't have lost the war. Or joined in the slaughter. Britain got it as a principal winner and gave it to the new Israeli state (after horrific, ungrateful terrorism).

I truly don't understand the dispute. Wars matter, huge wars matter a lot. Pretending otherwise is delusional

There were two states formed out of British Palestine in 1948. Israel for the Jews and Jordan for the Arabs. The Arabs got most of Palestine and immediately attacked Israel because the Jews got any land at all.

Wars do matter. Israel won in 1948. It also won in 1967 when it took Judea and Samaria back from Jordan.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Lots of calls for Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan to distance himself from antizionist streamer Hasan Piker.

It seems like a small thing to do and would dispel a lot of the apprehension Jews have about backing AES in his Senate Run.

You're becoming more of a MAGAt everyday, lying racist cunt.



You're both obsessed with him .

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

You're becoming more of a MAGAt everyday, lying racist cunt.

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You're both obsessed with him .

Leave your opinion of me out of it.

What is your opinion of Hasan Piker?

I'll tell it in a thread started my someone who isn't a hypocritical racist piece of shit like this one is.

You're welcome to share your opinion of Hasan Piker any time.

 

[DeluxAuto]

You're welcome to share your opinion of Hasan Piker any time.

If you haven't noticed, I do whatever the fuck i want.

 

[OralAllOver]

There were two states formed out of British Palestine in 1948. Israel for the Jews and Jordan for the Arabs. The Arabs got most of Palestine and immediately attacked Israel because the Jews got any land at all.

Wars do matter. Israel won in 1948. It also won in 1967 when it took Judea and Samaria back from Jordan.

Not true. Not a single action nor a single word by Britain towards evicting non-jews to the land given & now known as Israel.
Read Balfour Dec.

You're such a sharp gal but have a blind spot towards Israeli governments. Love is recognizing flaws and loving anyway. Delusion hurts you and, perhaps some day, Israel. An incredible culture. But there are plenty of crazy motherfuckers. Increasingly in government.

Familiar with book Thinking Fast and Slow? In it are some delightful anecdotes you'd enjoy

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Not true. Not a single action nor a single word by Britain towards evicting non-jews to the land given & now known as Israel.
Read Balfour Dec.

You're such a sharp gal but have a blind spot towards Israeli governments. Love is recognizing flaws and loving anyway. Delusion hurts you and, perhaps some day, Israel. An incredible culture. But there are plenty of crazy motherfuckers. Increasingly in government.

Familiar with book Thinking Fast and Slow? In it are some delightful anecdotes you'd enjoy

The Balfour Declaration was a statement of intent to create a homeland for the Jews in British Palestine issued in London decades before Israel won its independence in 1948.

Britain “gave” Israel to the Jews the same way it “gave” Jordan to the Arabs and India to the Hindus—it was a failing colonial empire and couldn’t hang on to its far-flung possessions.

 

[Lazaran]

The Balfour Declaration was a statement of intent to create a homeland for the Jews in British Palestine issued in London decades before Israel won its independence in 1948.

Britain “gave” Israel to the Jews the same way it “gave” Jordan to the Arabs and India to the Hindus—it was a failing colonial empire and couldn’t hang on to its far-flung possessions.

I just want to say: I have been accused of “simping” / “white-knighting” for you on the issue of Israel / "Palestine". But just KNOW that I HAVE done the due diligence of fact checking your claims versus the claims of your… adversaries.

The ONLY reason I have supported your position(s) is because your claims have been supported by the facts / historical record(s) - like in the case of the post you just responded to… that I am responding to.

IF that ^ had NOT been the case, I would have been merciless in my “refuttal” of your claims (See: The treatment I give fact-free posters on this board).

Meanwhile, a surprising result of my due diligence / fact checking, is that I converted from a mere seeker of truth since this… "debate" heated up, to a MORE sympathetic ally of Jews / Israel. The more I research the history of the issue, the more I am persuaded by / to the Israeli / Jewish “side”. The treatment Jews / Israelis experienced at the hands of Christofascists & Islamofascists, etc is / was shameful & atrocious. On par with the treatment of enslaved Americans & Native Americans at the hands of Christofascist Europeans.

“The more you know”…

Keep up the good work.





We. Told. Them. So.

 

[73Seahawks]

The Arabs and Egyptians who call themselves "Palestinians" today have relatively shallow roots in the land. 100 years ago "Palestinian" meant Jew. The Arabs of the Levant preferred the name "Syrian" back then.

This Piker Asshole will be the reason why Republicans will dominate the 2026 Midterms.

 

[OralAllOver]

Those numbers include the Arab communities of the West Bank. Thank you for demonstrating that the genocide claim is false.

Length of residence?
If you, say, move to Cleveland. You ok with long-time Cleves forcibly dispossessing you with exile?

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Length of residence?
If you, say, move to Cleveland. You ok with long-time Cleves forcibly dispossessing you with exile?

Israel has controlled Judea and Samaria for 3x longer than Jordan. Jordan seized the territory west of the Jordan River in 1947, but only held it for 20 years.

 

[Sign54]

To be clear, non-Jews have lived in what is now Israel (and the Levant) for thousands of years. A lot more of them than Jews.

To me, the Ottoman Emp controlled that territory. Purely voluntarily and greedily it entered the horrible WW1. If it didn't want to lose that area it shouldn't have lost the war. Or joined in the slaughter. Britain got it as a principal winner and gave it to the new Israeli state (after horrific, ungrateful terrorism).

I truly don't understand the dispute. Wars matter, huge wars matter a lot. Pretending otherwise is delusional

The ottoman empire of course, on an unrelated note, engaged in a genocide of its own against the Armenians. Ironically, much of the Muslim world recognizes the Armenian Genocide just fine.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

The ottoman empire of course, on an unrelated note, engaged in a genocide of its own against the Armenians. Ironically, much of the Muslim world recognizes the Armenian Genocide just fine.

Israel just recognized the Armenian genocide this year. They had held off so long because they didn’t want to antagonize Turkey, but now that Turkey is openly hostile to Israel, they figured there’s no point in trying to placate them.

 

[Bray123]