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[Sean Renaud]

So let's have some quotas for the sake of race, right?

As a last resort but I don't think we're really in a situation where that's remotely necessary. Definitely encourage more minorities to get into these fields however.

 

[toubab]

No, the hue and cry was that they shouldn't be BANNED from pro sports. You can't actually be as dumb as you're coming across here.

That's true, but there are no bans that blacks can't run for political office, obviously. I see no problem in that arena. If blacks don't run, that's their prerogative.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Well it's more complicated than that but ultimately it's our problem as a nation.

 

[toubab]

Well it's more complicated than that but ultimately it's our problem as a nation.

Why is it a problem if blacks choose not to be politicians?

 

[Wrong Element]

That's true, but there are no bans that blacks can't run for political office, obviously. I see no problem in that arena. If blacks don't run, that's their prerogative.

It's so obvious I didn't say it, so I'm not sure why you felt the need to respond.

 

[toubab]

It's so obvious I didn't say it, so I'm not sure why you felt the need to respond.

Just pointing out the fact one has nothing to do with the other.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Why is it a problem if blacks choose not to be politicians?

Because then we don't have a say in our government. Are you really having a hard time understanding this?

 

[toubab]

Because then we don't have a say in our government. Are you really having a hard time understanding this?

Yes, I'm having a hard time understanding this. Nothing is stopping black people from being politicians, at any level. If they choose not to run, that's their business. What do you want to do, force more to run? Or maybe ban white people from running?

 

[Sean Renaud]

There are lots of things stopping blacks from running but lets for the same of argument say you were right. If you were right then yes forcing them to run may ultimately be necessary but I don't think things are that desperate.

 

[toubab]

There are lots of things stopping blacks from running but lets for the same of argument say you were right. If you were right then yes forcing them to run may ultimately be necessary but I don't think things are that desperate.

That's crazy. Nobody should be forced to run for political office. Period.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Not period. If it becomes a sufficiently big problem then yes, and it's not that big a problem right now but it could easily become one and probably is some areas.

 

[toubab]

Not period. If it becomes a sufficiently big problem then yes, and it's not that big a problem right now but it could easily become one and probably is some areas.

We definitely disagree. Period.

 

[nowisthetime]

Some of these scared chicken caca conservatives act like all black folk want to chop off their heads. Believe me, if that were so, they would have done it centuries ago!

A black man is more likely to be a victim of any type of crime than some old white conservative wingnut like the ones that fill this crummy board.


Read the bloody STATS. You're really starting to troll.

 

[Sean Renaud]

That's fine. Your wrong. And for record not only run, if things get sufficiently bad people must be forced to hold office not just to run. Don't like it? Welcome to the storm gents.

 

[toubab]

That's fine. Your wrong. And for record not only run, if things get sufficiently bad people must be forced to hold office not just to run. Don't like it? Welcome to the storm gents.

No, I'm right. Obviously. No black people should be forced to run, and no white people should be prevented from running. Race has nothing to do with it, and shouldn't. So same rules for all, white, black, Asian, etc.

 

[Sean Renaud]

One day Comrade, I hope to join you in Utopia. Until then keep your blinders on, I'll fix the real world for you. It would be quicker if you helped of course but I accept that I'm the one who has to dirty his hands so you can live a blessed life.

You are welcome.

 

[toubab]

One day Comrade, I hope to join you in Utopia. Until then keep your blinders on, I'll fix the real world for you. It would be quicker if you helped of course but I accept that I'm the one who has to dirty his hands so you can live a blessed life.

You are welcome.

Man, you are writing some crazy shit.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Not a quarter as strong as whatever goes through your head to think we don't need to work on this in society.

 

[toubab]

Not a quarter as strong as whatever goes through your head to think we don't need to work on this in society.

Work on it how? And why? There is equal opportunity in politics, from a racial standpoint. That's why we have a black president, and tons of black politicians all over the country. At every level.

 

[Sean Renaud]

there is not equal opportunity in politics or anything else really in this country. We're far, far better than we were before. But even if there was a society that is not governed by people that resemble the governed is inherently broken and if you have to force people in then that's what you ultimately have to to do. No ifs ands or buts about it.

People who don't feel represented by their government don't feel invested in it. They rebel and don't respect it. These are very simple things that you should have learned by now.

 

[toubab]

there is not equal opportunity in politics or anything else really in this country. We're far, far better than we were before. But even if there was a society that is not governed by people that resemble the governed is inherently broken and if you have to force people in then that's what you ultimately have to to do. No ifs ands or buts about it.

People who don't feel represented by their government don't feel invested in it. They rebel and don't respect it. These are very simple things that you should have learned by now.

Those of you who want to force equal results instead of equal opportunity are wrong. As wrong as you can get.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Those of you who want to force equal results instead of equal opportunity are wrong. As wrong as you can get.

When you have equal opportunity you get (roughly) equal results. If you aren't seeing equal results then you don't have equal opportunity. However when it comes to leadership it doesn't make much difference. You NEED roughly equal results. Without them you cannot get good results.

 

[toubab]

When you have equal opportunity you get (roughly) equal results. If you aren't seeing equal results then you don't have equal opportunity. However when it comes to leadership it doesn't make much difference. You NEED roughly equal results. Without them you cannot get good results.

That's crazy. There's equal opportunity in the NFL, and the results are not equal. And there's no reason they should be. Nor should there be equal results in politics, based on race.

 

[Sean Renaud]

That's crazy. There's equal opportunity in the NFL, and the results are not equal. And there's no reason they should be. Nor should there be equal results in politics, based on race.

First, there really isn't "equal" opportunity in the NFL but that's entirely irrelevant. if you don't understand why politics must have roughly equal results however that's on you, just don't cry about riots or crime or police not being welcome in neighborhoods or any or the other problems that you're causing.

 

[toubab]

First, there really isn't "equal" opportunity in the NFL but that's entirely irrelevant. if you don't understand why politics must have roughly equal results however that's on you, just don't cry about riots or crime or police not being welcome in neighborhoods or any or the other problems that you're causing.

Why do you say there isn't equal opportunity in the NFL? Do you think whites, Asians, and others are underrepresented because they are being discriminated against?

Are you saying there should be racial quotas in politics?