Here's How Donald Trump Could Become President

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Did David Petraeus cause any harm to national security?



That is not the legal standard.


DizzyBooby insisted that there was harm to national security (there has been exactly zero proof of this).

The difference between the two cases is this:

Petraeus' knowingly leaked classified material to his mistress and biographer. His so-called "black books" held reams of classified information, including conversations with the president, top-secret code words, as well as "the identities of covert officers, war strategy, intelligence capabilities and mechanisms, diplomatic discussions, quotes and deliberative discussions from high-level National Security Council meetings. Anyone who knows ANYTHING about handling classified information knows that the sort of note books that Petraeus was keeping should never have left a secure environment and should have been marked classified at the very least. He KNEW that the information that he was treating so carelessly and sharing with his mistress was classified since the information came from classified briefings. He had ZERO defense. Yet he was let off with the proverbial slap on the wrist.

The "classified material" found in Clinton's emails were not marked as such and there is no indication that the information was leaked to anyone either accidentally or intentionally. The contents of some of the emails were only determined to be "Classified" after the fact.

The difference, is that Petraeus is a GOP Golden Boy and so was allowed to plea down and received for immunity from future prosecution, (Petraeus was allowed to plead guilty to one count of unauthorized removal of classified material and retention of classified material despite the reams of classified material contained in his black books), pay a $40K fine and serve two years of probation AND be immune from future prosecution. Sweet deal for him. Curious considering that he outright lied to investigators, as court documents show: Petraeus lied to investigators when he said "(a) he had never provided any classified information to his biographer, and (b) he had never facilitated the provision of classified information to his biographer," the court documents state. "These statements were false."

Meanwhile the GOP has spent the better part of four years trying to find something, anything that they can use to try to destroy Clinton politically. BENGHAZI! failed, so they pivoted to e-mails, so far they've found no leak, just the same misdemeanor they allowed Petraeus to plea down to KNOWING that he intentionally leaked classified information.
 
Donald sure seems to be racking up the racist governor endorsements the last couple of days.
 
Nope, no fascism here...

Trump wants to weaken libel laws in order to make it easier for him to go after reporters he doesn't like.

Let's leave aside that the First Amendment can't be changed on a president's whim. Let's also leave aside that the media have been of incalculable benefit to Trump these last eight months, giving him more free coverage than every other candidate combined, with reporters clearly afraid to challenge him for fear of losing access to the freak show. What does this say about what kind of President he would be?

Even Nixon was smart enough to try to keep his "enemies list" secret.
 
DizzyBooby insisted that there was harm to national security (there has been exactly zero proof of this).

The difference between the two cases is this:

Petraeus' knowingly leaked classified material to his mistress and biographer. His so-called "black books" held reams of classified information, including conversations with the president, top-secret code words, as well as "the identities of covert officers, war strategy, intelligence capabilities and mechanisms, diplomatic discussions, quotes and deliberative discussions from high-level National Security Council meetings. Anyone who knows ANYTHING about handling classified information knows that the sort of note books that Petraeus was keeping should never have left a secure environment and should have been marked classified at the very least. He KNEW that the information that he was treating so carelessly and sharing with his mistress was classified since the information came from classified briefings. He had ZERO defense. Yet he was let off with the proverbial slap on the wrist.

The "classified material" found in Clinton's emails were not marked as such and there is no indication that the information was leaked to anyone either accidentally or intentionally. The contents of some of the emails were only determined to be "Classified" after the fact.

The difference, is that Petraeus is a GOP Golden Boy and so was allowed to plea down and received for immunity from future prosecution, (Petraeus was allowed to plead guilty to one count of unauthorized removal of classified material and retention of classified material despite the reams of classified material contained in his black books), pay a $40K fine and serve two years of probation AND be immune from future prosecution. Sweet deal for him. Curious considering that he outright lied to investigators, as court documents show: Petraeus lied to investigators when he said "(a) he had never provided any classified information to his biographer, and (b) he had never facilitated the provision of classified information to his biographer," the court documents state. "These statements were false."

Meanwhile the GOP has spent the better part of four years trying to find something, anything that they can use to try to destroy Clinton politically. BENGHAZI! failed, so they pivoted to e-mails, so far they've found no leak, just the same misdemeanor they allowed Petraeus to plea down to KNOWING that he intentionally leaked classified information.
Idiot!
 
Yeah, corrupt political retribution because someone refused to endorse you that has cost taxpayers over $10 million in legal fees is nothing. :rolleyes:

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Possible risk (of which there is no evidence that anything leaked to anywhere) to national security. Benghazi was a fishing expedition designed to politically assassinate Hillary Clinton in the same way Whitewater was toward the Clintons while Bill was President.

If Gowdy and his band of witch hunters were seriously concerned about Hillary's use of private email being a national security risk then they would also be looking into the fact that Powell and Rice also used private email accounts while Secretary of State.

It's abundantly clear that Republicans have no problem with the abuse of political power to "get back" at their enemies through intimidation and smear tactics.
10 million

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6 billion missing at State under CuntClinton:rolleyes:
 
Dig this!

Is this the future of politics?


There's a lot of truth in that video. But I think one thing Trump has realized is the public is now used to the idea of Teflon candidates. That's why he said he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue, or whatever, and people would still vote for him. They will. It's true. And why not? It's been demonstrated in the past that people will vote for a known liar, cheat, etc., as long as they think he's on their side. Might as well play by the new rules, or lack of rules. It's all about winning.
 
There's a lot of truth in that video. But I think one thing Trump has realized is the public is now used to the idea of Teflon candidates. That's why he said he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue, or whatever, and people would still vote for him. They will. It's true. And why not? It's been demonstrated in the past that people will vote for a known liar, cheat, etc., as long as they think he's on their side. Might as well play by the new rules, or lack of rules. It's all about winning.

American politics is like American teevee wrestling.
 
American politics is like American teevee wrestling.

True, and amazingly many voters buy into the whole good guy/bad guy shtick 100%. I suppose a lot don't buy it 100%, but most seem to buy it to some extent.
 
I think the next big endorsement for Trump will be Mike Huckabee, coming in the next day or two. Should help him a good deal in Arkansas, and somewhat throughout the South, and with evangelicals in general. Trump is putting the nails in the GOP establishment's coffin, one at a time, and soon in bunches.
 
I think the next big endorsement for Trump will be Mike Huckabee, coming in the next day or two. Should help him a good deal in Arkansas, and somewhat throughout the South, and with evangelicals in general. Trump is putting the nails in the GOP establishment's coffin, one at a time, and soon in bunches.

I say RICK SCOTT, Florida's governor. Scott suffered the same GOP opposition, and won both his elections with zero help from the GOP. He's another bazillionaire who paid his own way.
 
I say RICK SCOTT, Florida's governor. Scott suffered the same GOP opposition, and won both his elections with zero help from the GOP. He's another bazillionaire who paid his own way.

Huckabee will endorse before Scott, but Scott will follow. Here are some more predictions I'm pretty sure about:

Super Tuesday Trump will win primaries in Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Massachusetts, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Vermont and Virginia. Cruz will win Texas.

Alaska and Minnesota will hold caucuses, which are harder to predict, but I think Trump will win those as well.
 
Huckabee will endorse before Scott, but Scott will follow. Here are some more predictions I'm pretty sure about:

Super Tuesday Trump will win primaries in Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Massachusetts, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Vermont and Virginia. Cruz will win Texas.

Alaska and Minnesota will hold caucuses, which are harder to predict, but I think Trump will win those as well.

I agree but wont bet on Cruz winning. But we'll see on Wednesday morning. Romney says he wants in. heeheeheehee
 
The only way Trump could ever become president is if there were lots of racist, poorly educated people on the voting rolls.
 
The only way CuntClinton could ever become president is if there were lots of racist, poorly educated people on the voting rolls like teh COLOREDS and the DEAD and ILLEGALS and BABY KILLERS COP KILLERS TERRORISTS

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That's why I want the Trump train wreck. The entire political system might derail and they'll finally have to fix it.
Order out of chaos.

Well. First we have to be able to speak the truth. Not this last 40 years of touchy, feely Phil Donahue bullshit that's been happening. Yes people have problems and they need help. Everyone doesn't get to play victim.though. Stop the mind.numbing victim bullshit. The Democrats cater to this mentality. It must end!
 
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