Here's How Donald Trump Could Become President

[pensivepoet]

To play devil's advocate, there is a rebublican governor across the river in Jersey.

The one they want to impeach?
Is he finally back?

 

[pensivepoet]

It's pretty close to inevitable at present. No minority votes Republican and Latino voters are rapidly expanding in population. Assuming nothing changes it's not a matter of if it's a matter of when.

Don't get me wrong, I don't expect it in the next 10 years but eventually.

Like I said, the TexMex ain't talking.
But if they ever do.....

 

[Sean Renaud]

Fair enough. And things can change. I think even by your assessment you are making one rather grave miscalcuation however. Californian's are Republican once you leave the major cities too. If Austin and a few other cities ever go blue that's it.

 

[pensivepoet]

Fair enough. And things can change. I think even by your assessment you are making one rather grave miscalcuation however. Californian's are Republican once you leave the major cities too. If Austin and a few other cities ever go blue that's it.

That's how it is in KY, also, and most states.
Cities blue, outlying areas red.
A definite pattern.

 

[pensivepoet]

Oh, and Austin is already very blue, which is why much of Texas denies it exists.
In the the last two elections, over 60% voted Obama.

 

[Sean Renaud]

And cities spread out given time.

 

[toubab]

AGain, that's hardly the point being made. The point being made is that the biggest bitch has nothing to complain about. If the system weren't rigged he wouldn't be where he is.

The fact Trump has far more votes than Cruz, Kasich, or anyone else on the GOP side, and the fact he has far more pledged delegates also, at this point, has nothing to do with the fact the process is rigged. He would have even more votes and even more delegates if the process weren't rigged against outsiders, as it was in Colorado, for example.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

The fact Trump has far more votes than Cruz, Kasich, or anyone else on the GOP side, and the fact he has far more pledged delegates also, at this point, has nothing to do with the fact the process is rigged. He would have even more votes and even more delegates if the process weren't rigged against outsiders, as it was in Colorado, for example.

Colorado has a caucus system, it wasn't "rigged" against anyone despite sore loser Trump's claims otherwise. He has repeatedly fucked up securing delegates through his own and his team's inability to plan and prepare. His inexperience and habit of assembling teams of yes men has bitten him on his ass.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The fact Trump has far more votes than Cruz, Kasich, or anyone else on the GOP side, and the fact he has far more pledged delegates also, at this point, has nothing to do with the fact the process is rigged. He would have even more votes and even more delegates if the process weren't rigged against outsiders, as it was in Colorado, for example.

I would like to correct that last sentence.

He would have even more votes and delegates if he had paid half the attention to the details of the process as he does when he goes to a new location to build something or if he had done that which he keeps proclaiming that he will do: hire the best people available. Clearly he did not, he thought that all he had to do was show up, hold Nuremberg rallies and dominate the press and their news cycles.

He seems to think that politics is beanbag.

Is he not paying attention to what the Democrats are doing to Bernie?

 

[toubab]

Colorado has a caucus system, it wasn't "rigged" against anyone despite sore loser Trump's claims otherwise. He has repeatedly fucked up securing delegates through his own and his team's inability to plan and prepare. His inexperience and habit of assembling teams of yes men has bitten him on his ass.

The caucus system itself is rigged against outsiders. What was done this year in Colorado was so roundly criticized the GOP will reportedly go to a primary system with actual voters next time around as a result.

 

[toubab]

I would like to correct that last sentence.

He would have even more votes and delegates if he had paid half the attention to the details of the process as he does when he goes to a new location to build something or if he had done that which he keeps proclaiming that he will do: hire the best people available. Clearly he did not, he thought that all he had to do was show up, hold Nuremberg rallies and dominate the press and their news cycles.

He seems to think that politics is beanbag.

Is he not paying attention to what the Democrats are doing to Bernie?

The details of the process are the problem. The solution is holding elections where ordinary people go in and vote and leave the premises to go on with their lives.

 

[Wrong Element]

A for instance:
The last time New York went red was for Dewey. (NY Governor)
Obama beat Romney by 28%.
Hillary was a Senator there for 8 yrs.
Sanders is from Brooklyn.
If you're a republican in NY, why in the hell would you even bother to vote?
It's already decided, and your vote won't matter.
Just the way it is.

New York did vote twice for Reagan, and at least once for Nixon. But it also used to elect moderate Republicans now and again. It's become more blue as the GOP has become uniformly conservative.


It's certainly true that if you're a member of what is in your state a deep minority party, the incentive for you to vote is limited.

Colorado has a caucus system, it wasn't "rigged" against anyone despite sore loser Trump's claims otherwise. He has repeatedly fucked up securing delegates through his own and his team's inability to plan and prepare. His inexperience and habit of assembling teams of yes men has bitten him on his ass.

You have to give credit to the Cruz people; they understand the rules in all 50 states, and are trying to work them for their benefit. They put a lot of time and effort into the grass roots in places like Iowa, and it's paid off. Trump seems to think that any process by which people don't simply bend to his awesomeness is illegitimate.

Any complaining from Trump as to how he could win Missouri by less than half a percentage point, and still get more than twice as many delegates as Cruz? Haven't heard it.

 

[Sean Renaud]

The fact Trump has far more votes than Cruz, Kasich, or anyone else on the GOP side, and the fact he has far more pledged delegates also, at this point, has nothing to do with the fact the process is rigged. He would have even more votes and even more delegates if the process weren't rigged against outsiders, as it was in Colorado, for example.

That is simply incorrect. The math hath been done and both Trump and Cruz (Trump moreso than Cruz) have more votes than they've "earned" by any stretch of the imagination. So yeah it's rigged, but it's helping Trump not hurting him. He's bitching because he doesn't like losing or even being challenged not because he's got a solid leg to stand on.

 

[VaticanAssassin]

Yep..... This is the year of the lesser of two evils.


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[toubab]

That is simply incorrect. The math hath been done and both Trump and Cruz (Trump moreso than Cruz) have more votes than they've "earned" by any stretch of the imagination. So yeah it's rigged, but it's helping Trump not hurting him. He's bitching because he doesn't like losing or even being challenged not because he's got a solid leg to stand on.

Wrong. It's impossible to have more votes than you've "earned" if there are actual votes from actual voters involved, as long as they are counted correctly. It's obviously possible to have more delegates than you've earned. That's what's being complained about. And not just by Trump or his supporters. It's an obvious problem in both major parties. Sanders and his supporters are also complaining. Justifiably.

 

[Adre]

Political parties set themselves up the way they do for reasons. It does not really matter what you, Trump, or Sanders thinks, even moreso in that those two aren't even real party members.

 

[toubab]

Political parties set themselves up the way they do for reasons. It does not really matter what you, Trump, or Sanders thinks, even moreso in that those two aren't even real party members.

Of course. That's why party insiders set things up the way they do. To keep outsiders out of positions of power.

 

[Hypoxia]

You have to give credit to the Cruz people; they understand the rules in all 50 states, and are trying to work them for their benefit. They put a lot of time and effort into the grass roots in places like Iowa, and it's paid off.

Some paleos rant for state's rights, state sovereignty. The season of caucuses and primaries is a perfect example of state sovereignty in action -- each state and party with its own rules, very much like the European (dis)Union. Europe is such a good model for sovereign governance, hey? But I digress.

I've mentioned before that presidential candidates (big-state governors too) are only fronts for teams that will form the core of their administration if they win. Those organizations take time, effort, and expertise to build, maintain, and use. They need strategic and tactical thinking, executive-level thinking.

Tromp should have "hired the best" a few years ago, not waited till the last moment. His business failures and bailouts show he doesn't know how to operate commercially (he underperforms the market); his political ineptness shows he doesn't know how to run a national presidential campaign -- which is an audition for national leadership. Dictating commands is not sufficient.

Yep..... This is the year of the lesser of two evils.

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**** CTHULHU IN 2016 ****
Why vote for the lesser evil?​

 

[Disgustipated]

67 percent of Americans have an unfavorable opinion of Donald Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...trump-and-ted-cruz-the-general-public-doesnt/

 

[pensivepoet]

67 percent of Americans have an unfavorable opinion of Donald Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...trump-and-ted-cruz-the-general-public-doesnt/

So 3 out of 10 americans are insane?
Maybe there's hope for eeyore's rantings after all.

 

[toubab]

I think Trump is going to do so well in New York and several other states in the next week or two that GOP insiders are going to admit defeat and change their tune about him. They will have little choice, the way I see it. Trump's negatives will start to go down, inevitably. Whether they will go down below Hillary's by November is the real question, of course.

 

[toubab]

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[Sean Renaud]

It's hard to see Cruz doing particularly well in NY, can't deny that.

 

[toubab]

It's hard to see Cruz doing particularly well in NY, can't deny that.

All Trump has to do is keep his foot out of his mouth for 24 hours and he will crush Cruz and Kasich tomorrow in New York. He will also beat them easily in Connecticut, Maryland, and Pennsylvania next week, if he doesn't do something stupid before those elections take place. That should set him up to do well later on in California and New Jersey. He has the nomination pretty much in his grasp if he just plays it cool for a few weeks. That doesn't seem to be in his nature, but we shall see if he's capable of it.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I don't know about the rest of those north east states, you basing this off polls or feels?

I have faith in California to essentially say "Fuck Trump. We'll vote Vader just to see what happens." But my state often lets me down.