Hillary, Progressive or....?

[CNYCarol]

What is the difference between a Democrat, a Progressive, a Socialist and a Communist?

Answer: PRONUNCIATION

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

She can't fire Huma, Anthony lost his job in the Weinergate scandal. You want another disaffected Muslim on the street?

Other than her being prominent and pretty, what is this obsession with Huma? If she's Muslim Brotherhood, she has a funny way of showing it, being married to a Jewish ex-Congressman from New York.

 

[JackLuis]

Hillary Clinton as president will not necessarily be a feminist coup

Or, a progressive coup for that matter.

Donald Trump’s colourful tilt at becoming the Republican candidate for US president has somewhat overshadowed the tensions emerging in the Democratic race. A female president is obviously long overdue, so there is pressure to select Hillary Clinton as the Democratic candidate.

Clinton is the only female candidate and has the experience and skills needed for the job. But many women – including some feminists – do not support her.

Some older feminists have criticised younger women for betraying the feminist cause. Former secretary of state Madeleine Albright demanded that all women vote for Clinton. She claimed:

There is a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other.

This provoked angry reactions from many of the young women supporting Clinton’s rival for the Democratic nomination, Bernie Sanders. They see this as an outdated view that fails to understand current political debates.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

A useful commentary from The Intercept:

https://theintercept.com/2016/04/06...cial-regulators-who-left-to-join-wall-street/

 

[BotanyBoy]

Guess you're really not going to be a happy camper here in a couple of weeks.

Most people won't be, the last thing we need is another Wall St. puppet in office and they know it.

But I'm sure folks like you and the rest of the Wall St. fan club who loathe the USA and it's non elite/rich people will be ecstatic.

 

[JackLuis]

Clinton vs. Trump: Even their supporters don’t like them

Picking the least evil in this election will be tough.

WASHINGTON — Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are unusually weak, widely disliked presidential candidates whom most people plan to vote against if the front-runners meet in the general election.

Most people who'd vote for Clinton would do so because they want to defeat Trump, not because they actually want to elect her, according to a new McClatchy-Marist poll.

And most of those who'd vote for Trump would do it because they want to defeat Clinton, not because they like Trump.

The winner? He or she is likely to begin the presidential term without the usual honeymoon period.

"The winner would wind up one of the least popular presidents" to take office in recent times, said Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist Institute for Public Opinion in New York, which conducted the nationwide poll.

Fifty-three percent of all Clinton voters, and three of four independents, said they'd pick the former secretary of state because they'd be voting against Trump.

Sixty-one percent of Trump voters, and nearly two of three independent supporters, said their vote for the New York real estate mogul would be largely a vote against Clinton. Only 35 percent said they'd be casting a pro-Trump vote.

This one time we really need "None Of the Above" on the ballot.

 

[JackLuis]

Hillary Clinton tells Pennsylvania workers she’ll stand up to cheating China

A day after losing Wisconsin, White House hopeful Hillary Clinton unleashed a blistering critique of China while campaigning Wednesday in blue-collar Pennsylvania, warning the Asian giant must “toe the line” if she becomes president.

The eastern US state, where organized labor is an influential force, hosts its presidential primaries on April 26.

“China illegally dumps cheap products in our markets, steals our trade secrets, plays games with their currency, gives unfair advantages to state-owned-enterprises and discriminates against American companies,” she said.

“We will throw the book at China for their illegal actions.”

Clinton’s remarks, delivered to a state AFL-CIO union convention in Philadelphia, were among her most forceful campaign trail comments about Beijing.

Her rival for the Democratic nomination, Senator Bernie Sanders, addresses the gathering Thursday.

Clinton, seeking to regain her footing in the nomination race after losing six of the last seven state contests, pointed to her experience as secretary of state as a measure of her ability to influence Beijing.

“I’ve gone toe to toe with China’s top leaders on some of the toughest issues we face, from cyber attacks to human rights to climate change to trade and more,” she said.

“I know how they operate, and they know if I’m president, they’re going to have to toe the line, because we’re going to once and for all get fair treatment, or they’re not going to get access to our markets.”

At one point she refered to China as “the biggest abuser of global trade.”

But the self-described democratic socialist from Vermont is popular with the rank and file.

“I don’t think she’s a bad person, and if she wins the nomination I’ll vote for her,” said Don Long, 39, a union telecommunications worker.

But considering “somebody who is as solidly behind organized labor as Bernie Sanders is,” Long added, “you got to go with Bernie Sanders.”

 

[patient1]

Hillary Clinton tells Pennsylvania workers she’ll stand up to cheating China

I'm missing the logic here. How can she claim to be personally responsible for negotiating with China, and that it will be better when she's president and somebody else is doing it? Is she slamming Obama here? That would be courageous, since her indictment still hangs in the balance. That could make things really awkward.

Speaking of awkward, imagine an election in which both major party candidates are indicted... Hillary for her e-mails, and Trump for his Trump University scam.

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For the record, as much as I hate Hillary for her insincerity and often behaving like a lawyer or politician joke, I don't want her prosecuted. I figure most of what she's done is a lot like me driving 9 m.p.h. over the speed limit. She's a lawyer, she knows where the lines are drawn as to what's legal and what's illegal but she can still get away with it because she's not the only one. Who knows where the prosecutions would end if they changed the standards?

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

Panama anybody?

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Hillary Clinton tells Pennsylvania workers she’ll stand up to cheating China

This is exactly why Hillary would be a terrible, terrible president. She is eager to jump on the neo-con bandwagon and blame China and the BRICS nations for the calamity caused by our own insane economic policies. Like Bush and Obama, she will cling to those insane policies and try to distract the US citizenry with extremely dangerous brinksmanship that could spin out of control into nuclear war.

Panama anybody?

The Panama revelations are mainly a load of crap, cherry-picked evidence that is being spin-doctored to try to discredit the BRICS nations (who are actually offering intelligent leadership to the world.) British and American press coverage is trying to make the Panama thing about Putin, whose name never even appears in the leaked data.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Picking the least evil in this election will be tough.

This one time we really need "None Of the Above" on the ballot.

The whole 21st Century has been a miserable chapter in US presidencies. The Bush/Gore race was like that -- everyone was torn, trying to decide which candidate was more repulsive. It was really too close to call.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Some useful commentary

Panama anybody?

https://consortiumnews.com/2016/04/04/corruption-as-a-propaganda-weapon/

 

[JackLuis]

'Fear of losing' another reason why Justice Dept. may not indict Clinton

Fear of losing their jobs, that is.

A former Justice Department official under two Republican presidents said the department is unlikely to indict Hillary Clinton, in part because the agency may be afraid to lose.

Ronald Sievert wrote in USA Today that as many suspect, politics is a big reason why the Obama administration's Justice Department is unlikely to pull the trigger on Clinton.

"[P]olitical appointees who make the final decisions will at least unconsciously be searching for ways to evaluate the case in a way that would evade an obvious debacle for the Democratic Party," he wrote.

But Sievert, who worked under the administrations of Reagan and George H.W. Bush, also said that institutionally, Justice has always taken its time with these sorts of cases.

 

[JackLuis]

An interesting point about Hillary's "progressive history" she was on the board of directors of WalMart for five years. Notice that WalMart has broken every attempt to unionise and expects their employees to collect food stamps to make ends meet.

Her actions speak louder than her lies.

 

[JackLuis]

Hillary Clinton Supporters Just Got Their Hashtag Hijacked and It Is Hilarious

Hillary Clinton supporters started the hashtag #HillarySoQualified in support of their candidate on Wednesday night. In a hilarious turn of events, Bernie Sanders supporters hijacked the hashtag and made it a top national trend.

The initial slew of tweets from Clinton voters were echoing support of the former Secretary of State’s attack on Sanders, questioning his qualifications to be president. Sanders hit back, saying Clinton was not qualified to be president based on her support for the Iraq War as Senator, for pushing free trade agreements like the Panama trade pact as Secretary of State, and for her reliance on campaign contributions from the wealthy elite.

Clinton supporters started the hashtag shortly after Sanders’ retort began spreading on social media, and boasted of Clinton’s endorsements from establishment political figures and media, and of her foreign policy experience:

Then people started listing her 'experience".

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfcSaihWQAE2Anj.jpg

 

[ishtat]

It appears that the GOP bosses may try to install Cruz ahead of Trump. Cruz is, in my opinion worse than Trump and his election would guarantee congressional deadlock as Democrats would (probably rightly) regard it as payback time for the way he has abused the Congressional majority.

Sanders nomination is the only good chance of a GOP win. Cruz and Kasich could beat him - not so sure about Trump. Neither Trump nor Cruz can beat Clinton.

Ironically Kasich would have the best chance of beating Clinton but unless the GOP turns itself inside out he has no chance of nomination.

Conclusion: Clinton strong odds to win against the field. Prating on about how terrible she is won't cut it. She's the strongest candidate despite and with her faults.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

Neither Trump nor Cruz can beat Clinton.

Clinton can beat Clinton. In her own way, she's more personally repulsive than Trump or Cruz. Once you have seen this, you can't un-see it.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Conclusion: Clinton strong odds to win against the field. Prating on about how terrible she is won't cut it. She's the strongest candidate despite and with her faults.

Really and truly because CNN just keeps pumping that Kool Aid and everyone keeps chugging it.

 

[JackLuis]

Poll: 1 in 4 Sanders voters won't back Clinton

A new poll finds Bernie Sanders leading Hillary Clinton by two percentage points, 49-47 percent.

The poll also suggests Democrats may have a difficult time uniting behind a candidate after their increasingly contentious primary fight.

One-quarter of voters supporting Sanders say they wouldn't back Clinton in a general election, the new McClatchy-Marist poll released Wednesday finds. About 69 percent of Sanders supporters say that they would support Clinton if she were to become the party's nominee.

Sanders supporters least likely to support Clinton if she wins the nomination include independents, moderates and men, according to the poll, while his backers who are most likely to support the former secretary of State include nonwhites, Democrats, women and people ages 18 to 44.

Only 14 percent of those supporting Clinton say they wouldn't back the Vermont Independent senator in a general election, with 79 percent saying they would support him.

There is still a long way to the convention and Hillary is losing supporters all along as Bernie gains recognition.

According to the RealClearPolitics average of polls, Clinton has a 5.9-point lead over Sanders nationally.

 

[JackLuis]

Former First Lady Laura Bush hints she would vote for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump

Former first lady Laura Bush hinted this week that she would rather see Hillary Clinton in the Oval Office than Donald Trump, saying she wants the next president to be someone who cares about women in Afghanistan.

"I want our next president - whoever he or she might be - to be somebody who is interested in women in Afghanistan and who will continue U.S. policies ... that we continue to do what we're committed to do as a country," Mrs. Bush said during the annual Women in the World summit in New York, according to the Telegraph.

"That's who I want - or the kind of people that will do that and will pay attention to our history, and know what's happened before and know specifically how we can continue to do the good things that we do around the world," Mrs. Bush added.

 

[JackLuis]

The trouble with Tweeters!

More than 2 MILLION of Hillary Clinton's Twitter followers are fake or never tweet – and she's already under fire for 'buying' fake Facebook fans


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3038621/More-2-MILLION-Hillary-Clinton-s-Twitter-followers-fake-never-tweet.html

Two different online audit tools say no more than 44 per cent of Hillary's 3.6 million Twitter fans are real people who participate in the platform

The newly minted presidential candidate is fending off accusations that her Facebook page is full of fake 'likes'

Her Facebook fan base includes more people from Baghdad, Iraq than any US city

When she was secretary of state, her agency paid $630,000 to bulk up its Facebook likes, but pledged to stop after she left

Who'd a thought you could get paid for "Shilling for Hillary"?

 

[SEVERUSMAX]

Relevant quote from Gladiator (mostly inaccurate film, but still interesting).

"Thank you, Falco, and for the loyal subjects. I trust they weren't too expensive."

 

[JackLuis]

President Obama says Hillary Clinton is not 'above the law' in email probe

Yeah, right!

In President Obama's first Fox News interview in two years, he assured Chris Wallace that Hillary Clinton is not getting special treatment in the ongoing investigation into her use of a private email server as secretary of state.

"I guarantee that there is no political influence in any investigation conducted by the Justice Department, or the FBI, not just in this case, but in any case," Obama said on Fox News Sunday. "Nobody is above the law. How many times do I have to say it?"

 

[BotanyBoy]

President Obama says Hillary Clinton is not 'above the law' in email probe

Yeah, right!

That must be why if I go steal 3,000 bucks from an ATM I'll get put in a slammer for at least the next 10 years and when his homies crash the economy stealing trillions they get a bonus so big most Americans can't even fathom how big they really are.

The government is so full of villainy and scum...Mos Eisly > Washington D.C.

 

[Hypoxia]

That must be why if I go steal 3,000 bucks from an ATM I'll get put in a slammer for at least the next 10 years and when his homies crash the economy stealing trillions they get a bonus so big most Americans can't even fathom how big they really are.

Do you go to jail for manipulating your own machine? Ms Clinton, like all Cabinet officers, had executive authority to classify documents from and in her department. Any emails she said were unclassified, were. Can you process that? Do you hyperventilate over past GOP cabinet members with their own private servers?

But I take your point on the economy-crashers. Yes, Obama and Clinton are the usual corporate whores. 'Socialist' Obama did all he could to shelter his 1% backers, the same Wall St thugs benefiting from WJ Clinton's and GW Bush's deregulation and incompetent oversight. The fucking thieves who wrecked the world economy not only went unpunished but were rewarded. Obama's name will live in shame for that.

ObTopic: Clinton is a DINO and no progressive. But she's nowhere near as noxious as any GOP contender.