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SpicyBean99 said:
I’ve already verified a million times, I can do so again just ask me to make a video, post a picture, even call you via video (which I have done with people such as @EvaLane and others)

My thread has been here for almost a year, I have posted pictures along the year that are constantly changing, I can assure you I am very very real.

Not only that, but myself and others here that are most certainly verified, helped to remove another account (LILKITKAT) which I truly believe is the user behind both callmemacaroni and lionshai).

Up for debate of course but umm… the conversations have been plentiful surrounding the two so… we’ll see!
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If you feel the need for a third party verify again, I’m sooo happy to help. 😉

I think we know you’re legit by now.
 
SpicyBean99 said:
Every single one of this users posts has been either AI or stolen 🥸 they have also been of slightly different women! I can’t stop you from ogling tho just beware it isn’t actually a married lady who likes creampies, blowjobs, and a hand over her throat 😘
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SpicyBean99 said:
The irony is you’re kind of proving my point for me, right now, in real time. 😌

The conversational “posture” (??) is similar… for example asserting control of this current exchange and using sarcasm to undercut the other person rather than directly engaging the point….

The rest of the patterns can be seen if you knew the other users posting style and are able to look at yours and spot the similarities.
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No sarcasm intended toward you or anyone else. You said that I am AI or fake based upon a lower-quality image where my fingernails are not well defined, and because my writing style might be similar to another user who was proven to be fake.

Then you asked in the other catfish thread for a photo of my hand and my name. I was away for a meeting and upon coming back about an hour later, I immediately took that photo and posted.
 
CallMeMacaroni said:
No sarcasm intended toward you or anyone else. You said that I am AI or fake based upon a lower-quality image where my fingernails are not well defined, and because my writing style might be similar to another user who was proven to be fake.

Then you asked in the other catfish thread for a photo of my hand and my name. I was away for a meeting and upon coming back about an hour later, I immediately took that photo and posted.
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okay then!
 
SpicyBean99 said:
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okay then!
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I'm not taking any sides on this, but I will just add that these "AI Test Sites" are incredibly inaccurate. When they first became popular last year I tested them in many ways with photos I had my doubts about. They are wrong more often than they are right. Again, not taking any sides.

Two of Lits sexiest chicks in a catfight tho, kinda hot!! 😛⭐️😛⭐️😛⭐️
 
Bluesky8888 said:
I'm not taking any sides on this, but I will just add that these "AI Test Sites" are incredibly inaccurate. When they first became popular last year I tested them in many ways with photos I had my doubts about. They are wrong more often than they are right. Again, not taking any sides.

Two of Lits sexiest chicks in a catfight tho, kinda hot!! 😛⭐️😛⭐️😛⭐️
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Yawn.

There’s only one real cat in this “fight” 😌
 
"Yawn" 😂😂😂 so hot, so spicy, and so funny ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ well I am late to the party on this one, maybe Macaroni is real, and maybe not. I will follow along as this drama continues to unfold 🔥
 
And if you two goddess babes ever want to hash this all out in person and need a mediator to assist, I will be happy to help 😛
 
@SpicyBean99 i fully support the idea of weeding out fake profiles, and I’m glad you’re voicing out about this in some way, I really am.

but you’ll have to consider … what if Callmemacaroni is a real person and you’ve just hurt her by saying she’s not real and faking her pictures. You might be preventing a real person from posting here again, if you were accidentally wrong in your investigations.
You don’t have to prove it to us, and I really mean that, but provide real proof to whoever is moderating these forums and ask them to take action.

Hashing it out on a thread like this is not helpful to anyone and simply brings in more people than is necessary into a confrontation.
It should only be between you, her, and the forum moderators. And kudos to you (not being sarcastic here) for having the courage to do that. It’s not easy, and it is appreciated by many, me included.

You did however unintentionally bring up a good point. Just about anybody could be faking either their profile or their posts, and so everyone should be cautious about trusting any online profile. Not just any particular one.
 
Divindisguise said:
@SpicyBean99 i fully support the idea of weeding out fake profiles, and I’m glad you’re voicing out about this in some way, I really am.

but you’ll have to consider … what if Callmemacaroni is a real person and you’ve just hurt her by saying she’s not real and faking her pictures. You might be preventing a real person from posting here again, if you were accidentally wrong in your investigations.
You don’t have to prove it to us, and I really mean that, but provide real proof to whoever is moderating these forums and ask them to take action.

Hashing it out on a thread like this is not helpful to anyone and simply brings in more people than is necessary into a confrontation.
It should only be between you, her, and the forum moderators. And kudos to you (not being sarcastic here) for having the courage to do that. It’s not easy, and it is appreciated by many, me included.

You did however unintentionally bring up a good point. Just about anybody could be faking either their profile or their posts, and so everyone should be cautious about trusting any online profile. Not just any particular one.
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I disagree with the public forum part of this.

I think calling out people stealing/catfishing using AI in public deters others from attempting to do the same, no matter how convincing they may be.

Personally, I’m not comfortable looking at stolen images.

These accounts should be pointed out to the masses and a hard push back should be celebrated.

Keep up the great work @SpicyBean99
 
Divindisguise said:
@SpicyBean99 i fully support the idea of weeding out fake profiles, and I’m glad you’re voicing out about this in some way, I really am.

but you’ll have to consider … what if Callmemacaroni is a real person and you’ve just hurt her by saying she’s not real and faking her pictures. You might be preventing a real person from posting here again, if you were accidentally wrong in your investigations.
You don’t have to prove it to us, and I really mean that, but provide real proof to whoever is moderating these forums and ask them to take action.

Hashing it out on a thread like this is not helpful to anyone and simply brings in more people than is necessary into a confrontation.
It should only be between you, her, and the forum moderators. And kudos to you (not being sarcastic here) for having the courage to do that. It’s not easy, and it is appreciated by many, me included.

You did however unintentionally bring up a good point. Just about anybody could be faking either their profile or their posts, and so everyone should be cautious about trusting any online profile. Not just any particular one.
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The issue with hashing a situation like this out via pm or with moderators is such:

A) moderators cannot remove someone or ban them without substantial proof and that takes a long time to gather. (Almost a year of gathering from multiple sources to remove Lilkitkat). A public discussion, such as this, can surface corroborating experiences from others who noticed similar inconsistencies.

B) I did message them privately. Firstly, before even knowing who it was, I had received messages from other uses who raised their suspicions to me, personally, regarding callmemacaroni. I went and had a peruse and lo and behold… I saw the similarities immediately.
I’m DMd her and explained my concerns directly and told her that if I identified the source of the images, I would inform the person whose photos were being used and contact moderators as I had with Kitkat. My words:
SpicyBean99 said:
Not in a threatening way; more in the sense that I know I can find anyone on the internet, within reason, so whoever’s images you are using, I will find and report accordingly. As I did before.
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Her response: “Being real, this does not concern me.”

Sorry, but that is not how someone who is real and wrongly accused typically responds. Please understand that If someone questioned me, and accused me of both being an alt and stealing pictures, I would immediately verify or at least fight my corner with a little more conviction. I wouldn’t detach from the issue as though it were irrelevant. If she is a real woman in her mid 30s you’d hope she would have more compassion. Maybe even be curious to what happened with Kitkat… it’s a serious allegation and subject…

So… Private messaging works when the other person engages in good faith.

Again I want to mention: A real person who has chosen to post their face and personal details and stories has the capacity to resolve doubt quickly. A fabricated/fake/alt account does not, and that’s where the deflection, outrage and discussion about “privacy” begin….

You can’t be partaking in a semi-public, high-visibility way by posting your face, your breasts, talking about work and family, discussing your life, asking where to start a thread to then claim total insulation from scrutiny….. you must be bonkers!

You can’t actively want credibility and visibility while simultaneously claiming total insulation from verification. That’s a contradiction…. I think people who want to share their own images should if questioned be asked to verify! Otherwise lit is simply allowing this to be a site for people to share stolen images.

The ladies (the REAL) ladies who post here in that way are known and believed to be real because they have in some way verified : should this be via voice notes, private phone calls with users who can support them in public regard. being real, actual verification via hand written notes in videos that couldn’t be ai generated etc etc… me and Eva shared a video call for example and it was incredibly easy to verify one and other as being very real women. 🥰

If someone wants to remain unverified and private, that’s simple: keep personal details minimal, don’t build an ongoing narrative about your life (very quickly may I add), across threads with other users, and certainly don’t position yourself as a fully fleshed-out, traceable person.

Many posters here do exactly that. They share limited, highly anonymous content and don’t intertwine it with detailed stories about their lives. That is how they shy clear from being called out as catfish or alts. They behave in an anonymous way that diffuses any need for prying or questions!

The issue arises when someone presents themselves as a fully real, integrated person…. face, life details, cross-thread interactions…. but then rejects even basic scrutiny when inconsistencies are raised! Providing an AI generated image where two of us in the thread could very quickly write a hand written note that did NOT flag as AI…

If anonymity is the goal, stay anonymous. If authenticity is the claim, be prepared for reasonable scrutiny.
So in response to your message…

Public deception affects the public here… and has done before.

So yes, sometimes it requires public awareness.
 
Cybmorg said:
I disagree with the public forum part of this.

I think calling out people stealing/catfishing using AI in public deters others from attempting to do the same, no matter how convincing they may be.

Personally, I’m not comfortable looking at stolen images.

These accounts should be pointed out to the masses and a hard push back should be celebrated.

Keep up the great work @SpicyBean99
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Thankyou Cyb.

I have one more point actually…

What I’m struggling with is this: if it genuinely doesn’t matter (which is the vibe I’m getting from many) about whether images are real or stolen, then what exactly are we doing here?…

What am I doing here?

For those of us who are actually real and putting ourselves out there, authenticity carries so much fucking vulnerability!!!! Like, I’m not just an empty shell with tits…

I am NOT interchangeable with AI or scraped content. If the community treats them as equivalent, then mine and others authenticity stops being valued…. I don’t want that, but that’s the way it’s heading.

I’m not saying everyone needs to verify themselves. I’ve said it before I’ll say it again a million times again… Anonymity is fine. it’s the weirdos like Lilkitkat that lied and manipulated for over 2 years on the thread… that never really provided substantial verification (the one they did provide was AI…) that fabricate their whole lives, lie about family, friends, what their day to day looks like; then shares images of them with friends; (stolen images or edited and such) it’s just plain fucking weird. Those people should be a willing and happy participant in sharing some vague but real verification (the above message I wrote covers this in more detail).

The important part:

If stolen or generated content receives the same engagement and protection as real people, it does make you question the point of showing up as yourself.

I’m here because I value authenticity. If that doesn’t matter here, that’s something I need to think about.
 
I think the part that throws people off isn't the fact that you are calling out fakes, plenty of others do that too.
It's the angry, aggressive way you go about it.
Yesterday I got a reaction from you that was basically a mocking laugh at me liking a picture.
Authentic or not, why are you laughing at me?
Is that the kind of "engagement" you're looking for?
I'm not hurting you or myself by liking a picture, am I?
You could just report a fake and move on.
You're not a moderator, and as for engagement, this isn't your job.
You're just a user here to share naughty pics and make friends like all of us.
We don't need a mocking lecture if we didn't reverse image check every user posting porn.
Heck, the Fetish folder has threads that are like 90% people posting porn.
Sure, they aren't pretending to be that porn model, but it's not a big deal.
 
SpicyBean99 said:
In other news I’m having a coffee.

It’s 10.06am and in this picture you can see my nail and the time. I dare anyone to run it through an AI generator.

It took me 2 seconds to take this pic and post this. So maybe 3 mins total.


https://postimg.cc/zbX7WnwV
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That’s an awfully hot coffee pot

Sorry, that was a tick that had to come out.

That cafetière’s contents look a little tepid to not be AI.

I appreciate the realness of the real women on here, and whilst the fakes cheapen my experience somewhat, the real ones more than make up for it. I’m only still in here because of people like you, please stick around 😘
 
SpicyBean99 said:
Thankyou Cyb.

I have one more point actually…

What I’m struggling with is this: if it genuinely doesn’t matter (which is the vibe I’m getting from many) about whether images are real or stolen, then what exactly are we doing here?…

What am I doing here?

For those of us who are actually real and putting ourselves out there, authenticity carries so much fucking vulnerability!!!! Like, I’m not just an empty shell with tits…

I am NOT interchangeable with AI or scraped content. If the community treats them as equivalent, then mine and others authenticity stops being valued…. I don’t want that, but that’s the way it’s heading.

I’m not saying everyone needs to verify themselves. I’ve said it before I’ll say it again a million times again… Anonymity is fine. it’s the weirdos like Lilkitkat that lied and manipulated for over 2 years on the thread… that never really provided substantial verification (the one they did provide was AI…) that fabricate their whole lives, lie about family, friends, what their day to day looks like; then shares images of them with friends; (stolen images or edited and such) it’s just plain fucking weird. Those people should be a willing and happy participant in sharing some vague but real verification (the above message I wrote covers this in more detail).

The important part:

If stolen or generated content receives the same engagement and protection as real people, it does make you question the point of showing up as yourself.

I’m here because I value authenticity. If that doesn’t matter here, that’s something I need to think about.
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I totally agree that this whole debate is about authenticity.
There is a myriad of websites to view porn with no engagement; Lit is a community of people, yes we may have online personas to protect privacy, but surely most of us are here because we can interact with real flesh and blood people like ourselves. (Yes, when life gets on top of me I flee Lit, and much else, but behind the Lit name is a real man who laughs, smiles, cries and bleeds).
Swamping threads with imported images and content dilutes Lit forums and diverts anyone who might otherwise wish to share a little of themselves.
It really does matter, in a world increasingly polluted with disinformation, that Lit is able to provide a place where we can explore and share with other human beings.
 
EctoJohn said:
I think the part that throws people off isn't the fact that you are calling out fakes, plenty of others do that too.
It's the angry, aggressive way you go about it.
Yesterday I got a reaction from you that was basically a mocking laugh at me liking a picture.
Authentic or not, why are you laughing at me?
Is that the kind of "engagement" you're looking for?
I'm not hurting you or myself by liking a picture, am I?
You could just report a fake and move on.
You're not a moderator, and as for engagement, this isn't your job.
You're just a user here to share naughty pics and make friends like all of us.
We don't need a mocking lecture if we didn't reverse image check every user posting porn.
Heck, the Fetish folder has threads that are like 90% people posting porn.
Sure, they aren't pretending to be that porn model, but it's not a big deal.
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That’s the point though, this is an amateur picture forum (other areas where porn posts are perfectly fine). Not a stolen picture thread, and not a forum for sharing AI generated images.
 
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