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Cybmorg said:
That’s the point though, this is an amateur picture forum (other areas where porn posts are perfectly fine). Not a stolen picture thread, and not a forum for sharing AI generated images.
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Yeah, I get that, and I'm no fan of fakes either, but there's different approaches to the same problem.
Like I said, there are others that call out the fakes.
They basically post like 1 sentence and a link to the original porn or something.
They don't go on diatribes, following around the fakes to attack them, and mocking people like me who just saw a nice butt and say "Hey, nice butt."
If fakes are really that big of an issue, that's something to bring up to the people in charge of Lit.
Don't attack regular users who might have missed the post that called out a fake.
 
EctoJohn said:
I think the part that throws people off isn't the fact that you are calling out fakes, plenty of others do that too.
It's the angry, aggressive way you go about it.
Yesterday I got a reaction from you that was basically a mocking laugh at me liking a picture.
Authentic or not, why are you laughing at me?
Is that the kind of "engagement" you're looking for?
I'm not hurting you or myself by liking a picture, am I?
You could just report a fake and move on.
You're not a moderator, and as for engagement, this isn't your job.
You're just a user here to share naughty pics and make friends like all of us.
We don't need a mocking lecture if we didn't reverse image check every user posting porn.
Heck, the Fetish folder has threads that are like 90% people posting porn.
Sure, they aren't pretending to be that porn model, but it's not a big deal.
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It’s clearly thrown you off that I reacted to you that way. It wasn’t meant to be malicious, I was instead laughing at the irony of watching people enthusiastically validate people who I know not to be real.

I’m sorry, honestly, if that caused you offence.
I didn’t need to reverse image search it either… the inconsistencies (both in prose, wording, stories, images) were obvious to me immediately. That reaction wasn’t about humiliating anyone. It was about highlighting how easy it is for these accounts to gain traction.

I don’t need to be a moderator to care about this.

I’m a user here. I have a thread. I share. I’ve built friendships. That means I have a stake in the kind of space this is.

When new accounts come in presenting themselves as real while using stolen or fabricated images, that affects the environment I’m participating in.

It affects credibility.

It affects trust.

AND It affects how real contributors are perceived.

(Myself being one of them)

If people genuinely don’t care whether the content they’re engaging with is stolen or not, that’s their choice. But it does matter to me. Because I post as myself. I’m not interchangeable with AI or stolen images. And other women here also aren’t.

I’m not trying to police the forum. I just have a loud enough voice and an intelligent enough brain between my ears to be able to fight this fight.

I’m saying authenticity matters to me as someone who contributes here.

Again, If that felt like I was mocking you directly, that wasn’t the intention. It feels that your message was more in frustration to you being made to feel silly by my reaction. So I apologise genuinly.

Im also aware of my tone maybe coming across sharper than intended, that’s fair feedback. But caring about deception in a space I actively contribute to isn’t “playing mod.”

But I’m also not going to pretend I don’t find it frustrating when obvious fakes are treated as authentic.

I’m also autistic. Highly masking autistic yes. But I’m switched on and notice patterns and things that sometimes others don’t always see. This is also why my tone carries the wrong way. So again, John, my apologies.
 
SpicyBean99 said:
It’s clearly thrown you off that I reacted to you that way. It wasn’t meant to be malicious, I was instead laughing at the irony of watching people enthusiastically validate people who I know not to be real.

I’m sorry, honestly, if that caused you offence.
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Look, to be honest, I wasn't that offended, and I wasn't going to even say anything until I saw the conversation on this last page.
I actually like you and your thread, you're certainly an attractive woman.

But I can imagine a lot of people, particularly in this section, skip a lot of the actual text and just look for posts with pics.
I know I do, so I could be excused for not knowing a user is a fake.
Arousal is blinding sometimes. :p

Your method of calling out the fakes, though, is almost more disruptive than the fakes.
Usually they get called out once with obvious evidence and then nobody follows them anymore.
You can't claim your method isn't overly aggressive, though, when this discussion has taken up this entire page so far, and this isn't even the fake's thread.
It's a general thread for lady butt.

And I'm gonna stop here, because I do realize it's ironic to continue this chain when I was complaining about it.
Neither of us is really gonna change the other's mind anyway.
 
Sometimes the intellectual entertainment of the infighting is itself more entertaining than the visual sexcitement of the female glutes displayed herein
 
SpicyBean99 said:
The issue with hashing a situation like this out via pm or with moderators is such:

A) moderators cannot remove someone or ban them without substantial proof and that takes a long time to gather. (Almost a year of gathering from multiple sources to remove Lilkitkat). A public discussion, such as this, can surface corroborating experiences from others who noticed similar inconsistencies.

B) I did message them privately. Firstly, before even knowing who it was, I had received messages from other uses who raised their suspicions to me, personally, regarding callmemacaroni. I went and had a peruse and lo and behold… I saw the similarities immediately.
I’m DMd her and explained my concerns directly and told her that if I identified the source of the images, I would inform the person whose photos were being used and contact moderators as I had with Kitkat. My words:

Her response: “Being real, this does not concern me.”

Sorry, but that is not how someone who is real and wrongly accused typically responds. Please understand that If someone questioned me, and accused me of both being an alt and stealing pictures, I would immediately verify or at least fight my corner with a little more conviction. I wouldn’t detach from the issue as though it were irrelevant. If she is a real woman in her mid 30s you’d hope she would have more compassion. Maybe even be curious to what happened with Kitkat… it’s a serious allegation and subject…

So… Private messaging works when the other person engages in good faith.

Again I want to mention: A real person who has chosen to post their face and personal details and stories has the capacity to resolve doubt quickly. A fabricated/fake/alt account does not, and that’s where the deflection, outrage and discussion about “privacy” begin….

You can’t be partaking in a semi-public, high-visibility way by posting your face, your breasts, talking about work and family, discussing your life, asking where to start a thread to then claim total insulation from scrutiny….. you must be bonkers!

You can’t actively want credibility and visibility while simultaneously claiming total insulation from verification. That’s a contradiction…. I think people who want to share their own images should if questioned be asked to verify! Otherwise lit is simply allowing this to be a site for people to share stolen images.

The ladies (the REAL) ladies who post here in that way are known and believed to be real because they have in some way verified : should this be via voice notes, private phone calls with users who can support them in public regard. being real, actual verification via hand written notes in videos that couldn’t be ai generated etc etc… me and Eva shared a video call for example and it was incredibly easy to verify one and other as being very real women. 🥰

If someone wants to remain unverified and private, that’s simple: keep personal details minimal, don’t build an ongoing narrative about your life (very quickly may I add), across threads with other users, and certainly don’t position yourself as a fully fleshed-out, traceable person.

Many posters here do exactly that. They share limited, highly anonymous content and don’t intertwine it with detailed stories about their lives. That is how they shy clear from being called out as catfish or alts. They behave in an anonymous way that diffuses any need for prying or questions!

The issue arises when someone presents themselves as a fully real, integrated person…. face, life details, cross-thread interactions…. but then rejects even basic scrutiny when inconsistencies are raised! Providing an AI generated image where two of us in the thread could very quickly write a hand written note that did NOT flag as AI…

If anonymity is the goal, stay anonymous. If authenticity is the claim, be prepared for reasonable scrutiny.
So in response to your message…

Public deception affects the public here… and has done before.

So yes, sometimes it requires public awareness.
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I see. Ok I get it now. Thanks for clarifying your stance. And perhaps you’re right. 🙂

I also do think you’re one of the more genuine people on this forum, in what you share about your life. You’re an amazing person.
 
SpicyBean99 said:
The issue with hashing a situation like this out via pm or with moderators is such:

A) moderators cannot remove someone or ban them without substantial proof and that takes a long time to gather. (Almost a year of gathering from multiple sources to remove Lilkitkat). A public discussion, such as this, can surface corroborating experiences from others who noticed similar inconsistencies.

B) I did message them privately. Firstly, before even knowing who it was, I had received messages from other uses who raised their suspicions to me, personally, regarding callmemacaroni. I went and had a peruse and lo and behold… I saw the similarities immediately.
I’m DMd her and explained my concerns directly and told her that if I identified the source of the images, I would inform the person whose photos were being used and contact moderators as I had with Kitkat. My words:

Her response: “Being real, this does not concern me.”

Sorry, but that is not how someone who is real and wrongly accused typically responds. Please understand that If someone questioned me, and accused me of both being an alt and stealing pictures, I would immediately verify or at least fight my corner with a little more conviction. I wouldn’t detach from the issue as though it were irrelevant. If she is a real woman in her mid 30s you’d hope she would have more compassion. Maybe even be curious to what happened with Kitkat… it’s a serious allegation and subject…

So… Private messaging works when the other person engages in good faith.

Again I want to mention: A real person who has chosen to post their face and personal details and stories has the capacity to resolve doubt quickly. A fabricated/fake/alt account does not, and that’s where the deflection, outrage and discussion about “privacy” begin….

You can’t be partaking in a semi-public, high-visibility way by posting your face, your breasts, talking about work and family, discussing your life, asking where to start a thread to then claim total insulation from scrutiny….. you must be bonkers!

You can’t actively want credibility and visibility while simultaneously claiming total insulation from verification. That’s a contradiction…. I think people who want to share their own images should if questioned be asked to verify! Otherwise lit is simply allowing this to be a site for people to share stolen images.

The ladies (the REAL) ladies who post here in that way are known and believed to be real because they have in some way verified : should this be via voice notes, private phone calls with users who can support them in public regard. being real, actual verification via hand written notes in videos that couldn’t be ai generated etc etc… me and Eva shared a video call for example and it was incredibly easy to verify one and other as being very real women. 🥰

If someone wants to remain unverified and private, that’s simple: keep personal details minimal, don’t build an ongoing narrative about your life (very quickly may I add), across threads with other users, and certainly don’t position yourself as a fully fleshed-out, traceable person.

Many posters here do exactly that. They share limited, highly anonymous content and don’t intertwine it with detailed stories about their lives. That is how they shy clear from being called out as catfish or alts. They behave in an anonymous way that diffuses any need for prying or questions!

The issue arises when someone presents themselves as a fully real, integrated person…. face, life details, cross-thread interactions…. but then rejects even basic scrutiny when inconsistencies are raised! Providing an AI generated image where two of us in the thread could very quickly write a hand written note that did NOT flag as AI…

If anonymity is the goal, stay anonymous. If authenticity is the claim, be prepared for reasonable scrutiny.
So in response to your message…

Public deception affects the public here… and has done before.

So yes, sometimes it requires public awareness.
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Actually, you can cherry pick that part but I wrote a lot more than that.
Here is the entire interaction

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CallMeMacaroni said:
Actually, you can cherry pick that part but I wrote a lot more than that.
Here is the entire interaction

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Yeah I was thinking that other people here wouldn’t care less about our entire conversation. It’s also against rules here to post personal screenshots of DMs.

You don’t have to keep going around in circles you could just explain why you can’t properly verify… and why it is that each of your photos you’ve shared is extremely low quality and the one picture you shared to “verify” was clear as day.

I was also only referencing one part of our messages.

Though thankyou for sharing! 😍
 
SpicyBean99 said:
My message wasn’t aggressive 🥰 @CallMeMacaroni - feel free to listen and hopefully gauge where I’m coming from a lil more 🫶🏽 https://voca.ro/1j0oiIsy1X3u
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Not aggressive, no - but belittling and unpleasant
Wading in here because usually I respect what you say, from what I've seen on the threads, and I fully admit there seems to be a context here I'm not aware of (eg re' Kitkat) - but here you've gone from rightly raising awareness and having a joke about it, to attacking this person
It's clear some use AI, they shouldn't if it's not emphatically marked as such; and stealing others' pictures is absolutely abhorrent
But part of the authenticity you claim to prize so much is showing basic respect
If they don't deserve that respect, report them, and highlight it, as you did with your '94% likely AI' graphic
But if you're about basic respect, you have to eventually acknowledge there's apparently that 6% doubt that you might be wrong. So while it looks as if you're almost certainly correct in your original point, taking over a thread to attack someone to this extent because they don't act like you just looks churlish, and, as this exchange is showing, creates more toxicity than it resolves

Maybe the thread can go back to the fun it was created for
 
MiaBabe23 said:
Not aggressive, no - but belittling and unpleasant
Wading in here because usually I respect what you say, from what I've seen on the threads, and I fully admit there seems to be a context here I'm not aware of (eg re' Kitkat) - but here you've gone from rightly raising awareness and having a joke about it, to attacking this person
It's clear some use AI, they shouldn't if it's not emphatically marked as such; and stealing others' pictures is absolutely abhorrent
But part of the authenticity you claim to prize so much is showing basic respect
If they don't deserve that respect, report them, and highlight it, as you did with your '94% likely AI' graphic
But if you're about basic respect, you have to eventually acknowledge there's apparently that 6% doubt that you might be wrong. So while it looks as if you're almost certainly correct in your original point, taking over a thread to attack someone to this extent because they don't act like you just looks churlish, and, as this exchange is showing, creates more toxicity than it resolves

Maybe the thread can go back to the fun it was created for
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I appreciate you saying that, and I understand how it could look from the outside… and I’ve already noted that my tone may not always carry in its intended way. I have apologised for that and will note it going forwards.

I do take your point about respect. 🥰 but in regards to attacking, i feel like it’s kind of a that strong term… I personally dont see pointing out patterns or potential AI indicators as an attack… for me, it’s about protecting transparency in this space rather than targeting a person. I’ll refrain from doing so in the future regardless.

You are right that I was driving the discussion at points, and I am happy to take responsibility for that. Others were engaging and contributing, but I was responding and pushing the conversation forward. I do not have an issue owning that! 🫶🏽

Sorry for thread stealing! (backs away into corner)
 
@SpicyBean99

A lot of people, over many years, have come here to present themselves as something other than what they are. It's a place they can escape to. An alternate world, a place to safely explore who they are or who the wish to be. Often these are personas are not real, and could really never be. Nor should the be forced to prove they are who they are, or want to be. That persona may just be a way to explore, or live out fantasy.

For many it seems that escape is posting in the AM pics forum where they can revel in the attention of others. I would posit the attention they receive for the most part is good. How can it not be? If someone has issues of self confidence or self esteem getting likes and smiles from others would at minimum be a huge confidence boost. However, I think that discourse like the last two pages here would really be counter to that. Anyone teetering on the edge of posting their first pic might see this discourse and reconsider. And, I wouldn't blame them. It might feel too much like high school all over again.

I get it, you're here and want to be part of the community. You want this place to thrive, and you're taking ownership in the content. My guess is you're here for that same attention, community, feedback and friendships we all are. While it's all fine and dandy calling out blatant abuse of stolen images and/or reporting them, perhaps it would be wise to tread with a little caution. Inadvertently stomping on an individual could be very detrimental. Some of us here are in fragile states.

We need this community, feedback, and the friendships.
 
Ladies, gentlemen, and perverts of all (legal) ages, I have been in contact with Bean and have good reason to believe that she realizes she's been too harsh. If there is reason to continue this vein, then I shall stand corrected, but I believe that, in light of what I've just said, it's best to let this be for the time being, in the interest of returning to a positive track.
 
desperado1089 said:
Ladies, gentlemen, and perverts of all (legal) ages, I have been in contact with Bean and have good reason to believe that she realizes she's been too harsh. If there is reason to continue this vein, then I shall stand corrected, but I believe that, in light of what I've just said, it's best to let this be for the time being, in the interest of returning to a positive track.
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Agreed
 
desperado1089 said:
Ladies, gentlemen, and perverts of all (legal) ages, I have been in contact with Bean and have good reason to believe that she realizes she's been too harsh. If there is reason to continue this vein, then I shall stand corrected, but I believe that, in light of what I've just said, it's best to let this be for the time being, in the interest of returning to a positive track.
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That is true.
Though @SpicyBean99 started the conversation, the rest of us took part in it and inadvertently helped make it into a big deal.
I believe we have no part in this argument and should stop talking about it.
But having started this, she should resolve it in private or with the moderators.
 
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