How to.. lose virginity?

[cdstefi]

All men pay for it. The difference is an escorts price will be posted upfront.

I don't really buy this cynicism. If it's a relationship of course you pay, it's called putting in the effort and pulling your weight. And it's not like women are guardians of this precious treasure, a fuck. They like it too and it costs them too.

If it's just a hookup then you're still trying to get laid and probably trying to impress, it's going to cost money. Clothes, haircuts, drinks, dinner etc.

It's better to invert it and say that with an escort, you're paying cash in order not to have to make an effort. Hand over your wad and blow your wad, no commitment.

 

[Starlust]

As someone who finally went down the escort route, I would recommend it. Just make sure you do your due diligence and make sure she's safe and legit (and independent).

 

[Apollo96]

As someone who finally went down the escort route, I would recommend it. Just make sure you do your due diligence and make sure she's safe and legit (and independent).

noted, i've looked through a few pages and found a couple. even whatsapped a few and they seemed genuinly nice.. just a waiting game now and decide what i'm gonna do

 

[jehoram]

Once you lose it, you can't get it back!

I remember a woman saying, "I never lost my virginity. I know exactly where I left it."

My thought is that when people up front about their virginities, their potential partners might find that attractive. It's not often when you're asked to initiate someone into the mysteries of sex.

 

[Britva415]

I'd strongly recommend resisting the urge to predate though, it'll land you in more trouble in the end.

To say nothing of the harm done to the abused person.

 

[magic_rat]

All men pay for it. The difference is an escorts price will be posted upfront.

Hey, 1950 just paid a visit.

What a ridiculously outdated concept.

 

[Mike302]

Improve yourself, befriend women. They will network you and this is a way to build status as a friendly, reliable, trustworthy person. At worst you make just friends, but there is a good chance one of these women will want to get to know you better and pursue you. Don't pursue them. Be a friend and available.

The "friendzone" is a great place to be! It's where you learn about women and they learn about you. Guys who fear the friendzone are missing out.

 

[Britva415]

Guys who fear the friendzone are missing out

You’re just talking about being friends with women, though.

That’s not what “the friendzone” is.

Good advice, though! Be friends with women.

 

[Pornocles]

Don’t know if anyone has mentioned this cause I haven’t read all the replies, but:

Get yourself a copy of the 30 Day Style Challenge by Neill Straus. He was the Rolling Stone reporter who did an expose on the “pick up artists” of 90’s LA (written about in The Game).

He boiled down what he learned and presented it in an easy to follow process that helps men to be more confident and get dates.

There is also, apparently, The Rules of the Game, which tells you what the pick up artists did, specifically. I haven’t found or read that but you can learn a lot just by reading The Game.

I found torrents of both books.

 

[Bimwm79]

Step 1. Get off the internet, go into the world. That is where women are.

Step 2. Be yourself, and be confident in who you are.

Step 3. By definition on a scale of 1-10 the average man or woman is a 5. Don't try to snag a 10 if you're only a 5.

Step 4. Talk to women, have a conversation. They're people too.

If you only want a 1 night stand then act accordingly. If you want a relationship then your conversation should be just as much you interviewing them as they are you.

Step 5 . Rejection happens, get over it. You're not the best match for every woman you find attractive, and not every woman that finds you attractive is the best match for you.

Step 6. Take the vagina off of the pedestal. Don't build a relationship or even a single sexual encounter up in your mind so much that you can't live up to it, and get scared of even trying.

Last piece of advice, don't look for a relationship at the bar or the club. Not saying none of those women are relationship material, but that is a meat market or hunting ground.

You'll find the best matches at the grocery store, church. Coffee shop, book store, comic con etc....

 

[cdstefi]

Step 3. By definition on a scale of 1-10 the average man or woman is a 5. Don't try to snag a 10 if you're only a 5.

Sorry, most of your other points are good but I call BS on this particular one.

The whole idea of rating people on a 1-10 scale just on appearance is so ridiculously flawed it's not even funny. Sure, some are outwardly close to 10 in popular culture meme terms (slim women with symmetrical features and good curves, ripped guys with strong jawlines and all that) but physical attributes are no indicator of anybody's suitability for a good relationship. I'd suggest the closer to a 10 they are, the more narcissistic and poisonous to actual relationship worth they're likely to be.

I'd put myself around 5 on physical attractiveness, I'm not repellant but I'm also not somebody that anyone else would go for based solely on looks. But I've pulled way out of my league on the looks scale before because I'm funny, cool in my own way, self-reliant and confident to the point of cocky without it being just braggadocio, and know my own worth, and I'm actually interested in what makes women tick.

I find the idea of settling for somebody roughly equivalent on society's artificial desirability scales just dumb and actually insulting. Would anybody actually use "hey you're nothing special to look at but that makes us a good match" as a chatup line? It'd get your face slapped most times. Everybody wants to think they have something hot about them and for that to be recognised.

 

[Shellz32]

Thank you all for your comments and suggestion, I appreciate it greatly!

Time will tell what will happen... I've given myself just over a year (till my 30th in 2026) then if nothing has changed.. I'll start looking at paying for measures.... either that or go live a soloist life with the Monks on the mountains haha

Just pay for it. I've hired male and female escorts, it's awesome. And you'll probably be better for it when you meet women more naturally

 

[Shellz32]

Step 1. Get off the internet, go into the world. That is where women are.

Step 2. Be yourself, and be confident in who you are.

Step 3. By definition on a scale of 1-10 the average man or woman is a 5. Don't try to snag a 10 if you're only a 5.

Step 4. Talk to women, have a conversation. They're people too.

If you only want a 1 night stand then act accordingly. If you want a relationship then your conversation should be just as much you interviewing them as they are you.

Step 5 . Rejection happens, get over it. You're not the best match for every woman you find attractive, and not every woman that finds you attractive is the best match for you.

Step 6. Take the vagina off of the pedestal. Don't build a relationship or even a single sexual encounter up in your mind so much that you can't live up to it, and get scared of even trying.

Last piece of advice, don't look for a relationship at the bar or the club. Not saying none of those women are relationship material, but that is a meat market or hunting ground.

You'll find the best matches at the grocery store, church. Coffee shop, book store, comic con etc....

Couldn't agree more with step 3

All of it actually. Well said mate