I am a hater but wish to be identified as a patriot.

[Nathan_Brazil]

Remember:

patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.

Samuel Johnson 1775

It is still true.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Remember:

patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel.

Samuel Johnson 1775

It is still true.

"PATRIOTISM, n. Combustible rubbish ready to the torch of any one ambitious to illuminate his name.

In Dr. Johnson's famous dictionary patriotism is defined as the last resort of a scoundrel. With all due respect to an enlightened but inferior lexicographer I beg to submit that it is the first."

-- Ambrose Bierce

 

[Hard_Rom]

Apparently you don't realize that Germany declared war on the US and had been attacking and sinking US shipping.
The US didn't enter the European Theater because of some noble cause about hatred and racism. In fact, it wasn't until 1944 that the US officially admitted there was anything really badly racist going on in Germany.
And if the US could have been more racist in the Pacific Theater, I sure don't know how.

I am fully aware of the history. The a-bomb would never have been dropped on white people.

The US government was giving every bit of help it could to the allies, short of joining the war before late '41. A good example of a benevolent government doing the right thing in the face of popular opinion. The mob does not rule. And it took being bitch slapped by the Japanese fascist regime to wake the American public up. Sleepy fucking bunch aren't they.

There was only a very very slight chance that America would not declare war on Germany. We will never know because Adolf stupidly declared war on an industrial resource rich country with a large population, he could not reach adequately. I believe this because it was decided to finish off Hitler first before the Japanese. America could have gone after the Japanese first but did not.

More likely the US went after Adolf first to save Europe from the Commie Russians. Ultimately it was the Russians that defeated Hitler. Without a second front, Stalin would not have stopped until he got to the Atlantic Ocean.

 

[about_average]

More likely the US went after Adolf first to save Europe from the Commie Russians. Ultimately it was the Russians that defeated Hitler. Without a second front, Stalin would not have stopped until he got to the Atlantic Ocean.

The Europe first strategy was needed because the US could perform a holding action with the navy in the Pacific while forces were being readied and deployed to Europe.

Yes, we could have gone after Japan first but there's a pretty good chance Germany could have defeated Russia because they'd have needed few resources on the Western Front to keep England off the continent and there wouldn't have been the annoying invasions in Sicily or Italy.

As for not nuking white people, we were fully prepared for a long time to nuke the Russians. Last time I checked they are white.

 

[Hard_Rom]

The Europe first strategy was needed because the US could perform a holding action with the navy in the Pacific while forces were being readied and deployed to Europe.

Yes, we could have gone after Japan first but there's a pretty good chance Germany could have defeated Russia because they'd have needed few resources on the Western Front to keep England off the continent and there wouldn't have been the annoying invasions in Sicily or Italy.

As for not nuking white people, we were fully prepared for a long time to nuke the Russians. Last time I checked they are white.

Hitler could not have defeated the Russians. Way too big of a country to garrison. Russians had already begun to move critical arms factories to the other side of the Ural Mountains. Won some battles, maybe lucky take Moscow but beat the Russians and take Russia. No way!

Remember the words of Vizzini "Never get involved in a land war in Asia."

 

[Aella_]

Fucking morons!

That is the evil that haters spread. You find yourself using their words and tactics to combat them. You become what you despise. Like fighting terrorists. Your laws and freedoms are curtailed in the fight. You find yourself ranting and feeding obvious trolls. You are in danger yourself.

But the fight must be fought. Many died on Normandy beaches to destroy hatred and racism. Apparently there are still those amongst us who would have taken up a gun and killed their own countrymen to defend hatred and racism. Fucking traitors the whole lot of them!

If you espouse hatred of folk for religious or racial reasons. You are a traitor to any western democratic nation.

Move to fucking Russia! They will like you there.

Awesome insight and hillarious post! Loved it!

Don't know much about politics, but come to think about it, I actually recognize this scenario; it was played a few times, to a smaller degree, in front of my eyes in real life.
But I also keep seeing it in the political forums here. When a few liberal posters try to do the online white knight thing against conservatives. So funny!