I feel pretty!

[Keroin]

Which ones did you get sweetie?! Did you get a set that was...you know, more natural-looking?!

I wear these

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/219420/2/istockphoto_219420_false_eyelashes.jpg

And they don't bug me at all.

No, I didn't buy them, it was for a gag I was doing on a movie where I was dressed as a Vegas Showgirl. They were massive! and I think they had sparkly bits on them. Also there were long, long fake fingernails, fishnet stockings, sky scraper heels and beads and...starting to sweat, just remembering.

I got stuck in the bathroom for almost ten minutes because I couldn't pull my stockings and costume back up after I finished peeing, because of the ridiculous fingernails, and I was too proud to call for help. There was almost tears.

 

[intothewoods]

My bath with Vasoline intensive care moisturizing bath beads enriched with aloe made me feel a little gay. But I smell pretty!

You didn't read the label? I am sorry to tell you this, WD, but...you're now gay. Yeah, that's how it works. Sorry, don't shoot the messenger!

I didn't feel so pretty today. It was a long one. I did wear some sexy boots yesterday. That's all I got.

 

[JMohegan]

On another note, related to this thread, I read today where the French version of Elle magazine did a big spread of well known, beautiful women, without make-up (or airbrushing/photoshopping) this month. Although all of those women are genetically just gorgeous, and the lighting and all else was just perfect...it was still a tiny bit refreshing to see this as a cover. Too bad Elle doesn't do this on this side of the Atlantic.

~LB

I almost always think women look better natural than intensely made up or altered in a significant way.

The appeal of the multi-billion dollar cosmetics/fashion/body modification industry is a mystery to me.

 

[rosco rathbone]

That's cute.

Your mom should have gotten you some barbies when you were young, cause now that you have one, you gotta get ALLLL her accessories, huh?!

....Sold separately.



I'm not allowed to go shopping unless Mister is with me. He loves picking out my clothes.

Yeah, I like picking out clothes, hairstyles and all that stuff. I guess I should have had Barbies, but I'd have tried to fuck them.

I almost always think women look better natural than intensely made up or altered in a significant way.

The appeal of the multi-billion dollar cosmetics/fashion/body modification industry is a mystery to me.

I used to feel that way too, but now I'm all about artifice and girls who look like strippers and drag queens.

 

[intothewoods]

If you're not ethnic Chinese, your use of the word "chinky" will be viewed by many people as offensive and derogatory.

However, you should obviously feel free to ignore the heads up. Free speech, and whatnot. You can say whatever you want.

I have to agree. Unless you're Chinese. It's like I can say "Jewey" but I would kick any of your non-jewey asses if you said it. It's just one of those rules. My relatives were oppressed. I get the additional vocabulary. *sips some wine*

 

[JMohegan]

I used to feel that way too, but now I'm all about artifice and girls who look like strippers and drag queens.

Was there a discernable event that caused the shift?

 

[rosco rathbone]

Was there a discernable event that caused the shift?

Perversity.

 

[intothewoods]

I used to feel that way too, but now I'm all about artifice and girls who look like strippers and drag queens.

ooh, ooh, me too. Well, no, actually not that. What I kind of get into are women who have to put on their face. And they have really long artificial nails too. And their hair is DONE. I am endlessly fascinated by that look. I could not do it if I tried. It's like we are not the same species.

 

[rosco rathbone]

ooh, ooh, me too. Well, no, actually not that. What I kind of get into are women who have to put on their face. And they have really long artificial nails too. And their hair is DONE. I am endlessly fascinated by that look. I could not do it if I tried. It's like we are not the same species.

Sarah Palin gives me a savage bone.

 

[Keroin]

I think you need to head over to the Nightcap thread. Will do LB

On another note, related to this thread, I read today where the French version of Elle magazine did a big spread of well known, beautiful women, without make-up (or airbrushing/photoshopping) this month. Although all of those women are genetically just gorgeous, and the lighting and all else was just perfect...it was still a tiny bit refreshing to see this as a cover. Too bad Elle doesn't do this on this side of the Atlantic.

~LB

Lemme tell ya, it's all about make up and lighting. There are some big name actresses, known for their beauty, some who've even had contracts with cosmetic companies, who you would not recognize without make up, hair add-ins, etc. Some are truly frightening thanks to bad/excessive plastic surgery. I still have nightmares about one actress's lips...*shivers*

I'm just fine without the paint, thank you very much.

 

[LilyBart]

I almost always think women look better natural than intensely made up or altered in a significant way.

The appeal of the multi-billion dollar cosmetics/fashion/body modification industry is a mystery to me.

I've heard this from many men.

I just wish you would all say it a little louder. For a lot of reasons.

I think the people who are defining the (perceived) standards of beauty are not at all qualified to do so. And the reason that 18 or 20 year olds are wanting plastic surgery... for some ridiculous reasons.

The day that I read about labia reconstruction was the day I stopped reading Vogue. (Not that I could afford anything in Vogue, or even lived a life remotely like that...but at least it was fun. Until then...)

~LB

 

[gypsy*seer]

Which ones did you get sweetie?! Did you get a set that was...you know, more natural-looking?!

I wear these

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/219420/2/istockphoto_219420_false_eyelashes.jpg

And they don't bug me at all.

Oooo...LOVE these ones myself! If I have a tan, all I need is some lashes to make me feel all girly! Not to mention that I HATE playing with mascara, but I have like 6 eyelashes, so I am a slave to the wand! lol

 

[rosco rathbone]

I think the people who are defining the (perceived) standards of beauty are not at all qualified to do so.

I've said the same thing myself in the past, having witnessed firsthand the destructive, malicious misogyny of gay men in the NYC fashion industry. Still, this is kind of problematic.

 

[00Syd]

I used to feel that way too, but now I'm all about artifice and girls who look like strippers and drag queens.

I'm also all about artifice. I love the idea of looking "perfect." Not perfect like how Cosmo says perfect looks, or how Hollywood says perfect looks, but just perfectly together. If that makes sense. In my mind, I look the closest to perfect (and feel the best) when my hair is done, my makeup is flawless (and fabulous), my pantyhose don't have any runs in them, my dress fits just right, my shoes match my purse match my jewelry, etc.

I think of it sort of like being a barbie doll minus all the bleach blond and ridiculous proportions. Simply as perfectly me (as perfectly me as I want to be) as possible.

I've been slowly, sloooooowly working out some working theory about my thoughts on the matter but I'm not quite there yet.

P.S. I love drag queens, wish I was able to look the fabulous and perfect every day, and think I was a drag queen in a past life.

ETA: I guess a good way to think about it is as a sort of Performance of the Self sort of a thing.

 

[00Syd]

I've said the same thing myself in the past, having witnessed firsthand the destructive, malicious misogyny of gay men in the NYC fashion industry. Still, this is kind of problematic.

I've been accused of being closer to a misogynistic gay man than a feminist straight woman in the past.

 

[rosco rathbone]

I've been accused of being closer to a misogynistic gay man than a feminist straight woman in the past.

Trannies are endlessly fascinating to me too.

 

[intothewoods]

Trannies are endlessly fascinating to me too.

Word.

I'm also all about artifice. I love the idea of looking "perfect." Not perfect like how Cosmo says perfect looks, or how Hollywood says perfect looks, but just perfectly together. If that makes sense. In my mind, I look the closest to perfect (and feel the best) when my hair is done, my makeup is flawless (and fabulous), my pantyhose don't have any runs in them, my dress fits just right, my shoes match my purse match my jewelry, etc.

Do you mean in kind of a Grace Kelly way? That 1950s, early 1960s formality, being "dressed" for dinner, etc? I can dig that. The clothes were beautiful.

I've heard this from many men.

I just wish you would all say it a little louder. For a lot of reasons.

I think the people who are defining the (perceived) standards of beauty are not at all qualified to do so. And the reason that 18 or 20 year olds are wanting plastic surgery... for some ridiculous reasons.

The day that I read about labia reconstruction was the day I stopped reading Vogue. (Not that I could afford anything in Vogue, or even lived a life remotely like that...but at least it was fun. Until then...)

~LB

Every guy I have ever dated (okay there aren't that many, but still) has said the same thing as well.

Sarah Palin gives me a savage bone.

Yeah, although she's a little too wilderness-ey for the done look. But the teased hair for sure. Like rich Jersey girls. Carmella Soprano.

 

[00Syd]

Do you mean in kind of a Grace Kelly way? That 1950s, early 1960s formality, being "dressed" for dinner, etc? I can dig that. The clothes were beautiful.

Yeah, exactly. Being "dressed" to fly, to go to dinner, to see a play, etc.

Although I like to extend that ethos to apply to fashions that were totally removed from it at the time.

 

[rosco rathbone]

Yeah, although she's a little too wilderness-ey for the done look. But the teased hair for sure. Like rich Jersey girls. Carmella Soprano.

I just got into The Sopranos, ten years late. So many hotties. Meadow, Gloria Trillo, Artie's wife (can't remember her name)...Tony's various floozies....I love that whole aesthetic. Carmella is really perversely attractive too, in her way. She's like a female Tony.

 

[LilyBart]

Yeah, exactly. Being "dressed" to fly, to go to dinner, to see a play, etc.

Although I like to extend that ethos to apply to fashions that were totally removed from it at the time.

This is part of "you being you." A whole lot different than you (or me or any of us) trying to live up to a standard of female beauty that really doesn't exist in the real world.

And, digressing... I am in no way anti-beauty ritual treatment. I spend my fair share of time on this. I just consider this part of taking care of myself, like eating properly. Or not drinking to excess, or whatever.

I even wear make-up. Almost everyday.

I haven't tried false eyelashes though. Maybe one day...

(Although living where I do...I gave up stockings long ago...)

~LB

 

[satindesire]

I'm the kind of girl that is ALLL about the done nails, pedicures, waxed legs and spray tanned look...the highlights, the false lashes, the Gucci bags.

I think I was born to be a trophy wife.

I want diamond earrings and really expensive shoes, I want to live in a big three story house. Well, I got that part already, but I bought that myself. -_-

It's so much fun to me to be 'dressed', to get ready. I love fixing my hair and putting on makeup. It feels soooo good to look in the mirror and see that mask of makeup and nail polish and have that polish. Something kind of comforting about it, like I'm home.

Even when I'm just hanging out not doing anything in the house I still have on a cute velor track suit on, earrings and a headband, etc.

I've noticed that the kind of men I attract are more into the polished girl look as opposed to the more natural girls who attract men who like the natural look. I think it's really awesome when a girl can still look fucking beautiful without makeup on. I often wish I was one of them, I'm just sallow and pale without my lipgloss and rouge.

 

[PurpleTiara]

Sarah Palin gives me a savage bone.

This is one of those places where I just do not know what to say... Um, congratulations? Or Condolences? Or just have fun!

 

[PurpleTiara]

The day that I read about labia reconstruction was the day I stopped reading Vogue. (Not that I could afford anything in Vogue, or even lived a life remotely like that...but at least it was fun. Until then...)

~LB

I stopped reading Vogue when the baby talk started five or six years ago. Seriously, grown women were talking about "going on vacay". Vacay? Hello? I have not talked like that since I was about 3. Maybe it is just me, but while cute can be sexy, cutesy is not sexy.

 

[satindesire]

Oh and for the record:

The term Mongoloid refers to people of Chinese, Japanese, Native American, etc, decent. As in people who are Native, or Asain.

I am half Native American. I have chinky eyes.

If anyone takes offense to that, tough. I think I have chinky eyes, I'm allowed to say it because I am of that decent and I am NOT bowing to PCness. If I want to "insult" myself like that, that's my business. And it wasn't said as an insult.

I refuse to say anything else about the subject. Complaints can be filed to my PM box from now on.

 

[LilyBart]

I stopped reading Vogue when the baby talk started five or six years ago. Seriously, grown women were talking about "going on vacay". Vacay? Hello? I have not talked like that since I was about 3. Maybe it is just me, but while cute can be sexy, cutesy is not sexy.

I am totally with you on this one, sister.

Maybe we should start a thread about these silly words. I feel the same way every time I read the word vajayjay....

~LB
(OK, yeah, I have used the word. But I was handcuffed to the bed at the time. It was against my will, I tell you!)