When I go out in public I get high on emotion, I thrive being the center of attention, I suck energy from other peoples emotions. Then I get home and I come down off of that emotional high. Then slump into major depressionville, where I don't even care if my body continues to go on.
I figured out why i get depresion. I think
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Sorry Todd that is not it.. But Being the Center of attention is a part of Depression.. and is a clue to what the thing is that did cause it..
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Todd my man
I respect your position on not having sex at this time of your life. However a good close/or hot sexual relationship will do wonders for the mind, body and soul.!
To put it bluntly a well fucked man has a hell of a time being depressed very much. Unless their is some medical reason for it; or your life is in such a stressfull mess you can't think of any thing else but your troubles.
In which case some professional help along with getting some might be in order.
If their are other concerns you have which i think maybe the case you might want to look into them a little closer
sometimes things ar not as clear cut as they seem or repersented.
I respect your position on not having sex at this time of your life. However a good close/or hot sexual relationship will do wonders for the mind, body and soul.!
To put it bluntly a well fucked man has a hell of a time being depressed very much. Unless their is some medical reason for it; or your life is in such a stressfull mess you can't think of any thing else but your troubles.
In which case some professional help along with getting some might be in order.
If their are other concerns you have which i think maybe the case you might want to look into them a little closer
sometimes things ar not as clear cut as they seem or repersented.
Re: Todd my man
Medical? would Hypo thyroidism which causes depression be condsidered. or the fact that no doctor is willing to diagnose it so that I can get well from it?
Streesful mess? No family, no friends, no money, no food, no work would that be considered?
Went to professionals they all say I am fine and completely normal.
fgarvb1 said:
Medical? would Hypo thyroidism which causes depression be condsidered. or the fact that no doctor is willing to diagnose it so that I can get well from it?
Streesful mess? No family, no friends, no money, no food, no work would that be considered?
Went to professionals they all say I am fine and completely normal.
I know how you feel, Todd. Just before I started grad school I was in the same boat. No food, no money, about to get evicted, and because of an injury couldn't really get a job. But...when I was around people I felt better simply for the fact that it would get my mind off of it for a while. Then, was I was home and alone again, all my problems would hit me all at once again.
I don't know what to tell you except change what you can. Can't you get a job, even at McDonald's or something like that just for now? I'm sure there's a food pantry or something similar where you live. You'd have to swallow a lot of pride to go, but there comes a point when you have to. I had to, and you just have to realize that's what they are there for.
Best of luck. Mail me if you want. OneIris@literotica.org
I don't know what to tell you except change what you can. Can't you get a job, even at McDonald's or something like that just for now? I'm sure there's a food pantry or something similar where you live. You'd have to swallow a lot of pride to go, but there comes a point when you have to. I had to, and you just have to realize that's what they are there for.
Best of luck. Mail me if you want. OneIris@literotica.org
fgarvb1
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Peace brother ! I eat stress like candy and
kick depression's ass everyday.
But, it was not always that way.!
They worked on me for many years and then spanked my ass like a step child.
Todd i spent several weeks in "a very safe place" and a few years in more than one twelve step program.
I am here to to tell you stress and depression are two things you do not want to fuck around with.
They can kill you in several ways which is not the worst of it. They can make your life a living hell.
Stay with them long enough and they can cause heart trouble
, stomach trouble and even help cancer start.
Also they can turn you into a person you will not like.
If you think i'm trying to scare you ..you are right.!!!
Find some help.!! If some ass kicking is going to take place between you and stress and depression.. You are the one that needs to be doing it.!
Best wishes for your success.!
fgarvb1.
kick depression's ass everyday.
But, it was not always that way.!
They worked on me for many years and then spanked my ass like a step child.
Todd i spent several weeks in "a very safe place" and a few years in more than one twelve step program.
I am here to to tell you stress and depression are two things you do not want to fuck around with.
They can kill you in several ways which is not the worst of it. They can make your life a living hell.
Stay with them long enough and they can cause heart trouble
, stomach trouble and even help cancer start.
Also they can turn you into a person you will not like.
If you think i'm trying to scare you ..you are right.!!!
Find some help.!! If some ass kicking is going to take place between you and stress and depression.. You are the one that needs to be doing it.!
Best wishes for your success.!
fgarvb1.
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Re: Re: Todd my man
Todd I found that I was in a Depression when I was in College taking a Psych class.. and then I started to think about when it started and then once I figured out what had put me into the depression I started to work on it and it made me realize a few things about me that I wasn't shure of.. and I found out taht I was in that depression for over 20years.
I too have gone to Professionals and all I can say is this.. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE DOING!!!!!!! I went in with suicide tendancies and they would just ask questions that just made me more frustraited and not wanting to come back to them..
I have a freind that I have been talking to on line for almost a year who was going to a doctor regularly and the doctor just basically ignoring her during their sessions together. then she tried to Kill herslf and almost succeded, that's when her Mom finally decided that the doctor wasn't helping her..
so the Doctors of Psychotheropy don't know shit about how to deal with depressed people.. I know this from first and second hand Experiance..
Todd if you want to talk more I would gladly listen to what you have to say. or jsut to talk once in a wile..
But just to let you know.. Lit has been very theraputic for me...
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[Edited by Nobody Special on 03-10-2001 at 04:20 PM]
Todd said:
Todd I found that I was in a Depression when I was in College taking a Psych class.. and then I started to think about when it started and then once I figured out what had put me into the depression I started to work on it and it made me realize a few things about me that I wasn't shure of.. and I found out taht I was in that depression for over 20years.
I too have gone to Professionals and all I can say is this.. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE DOING!!!!!!! I went in with suicide tendancies and they would just ask questions that just made me more frustraited and not wanting to come back to them..
I have a freind that I have been talking to on line for almost a year who was going to a doctor regularly and the doctor just basically ignoring her during their sessions together. then she tried to Kill herslf and almost succeded, that's when her Mom finally decided that the doctor wasn't helping her..
so the Doctors of Psychotheropy don't know shit about how to deal with depressed people.. I know this from first and second hand Experiance..
Todd if you want to talk more I would gladly listen to what you have to say. or jsut to talk once in a wile..
But just to let you know.. Lit has been very theraputic for me...
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[Edited by Nobody Special on 03-10-2001 at 04:20 PM]
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I used to be depressed ALL THE TIME. The key to becoming undepressed is to figure out what's making you depressed. Yeah, I know, easier said than done. In my situation, it was my father who was depressing me. He was very emotionally abusive in a sick, strange way. He raised us in such a way that we always felt inferior to him, always felt the need to come to him for approval - approval which he never gave. He would open the door to my sister & I's rooms (we weren't allowed locks) at random intervals to "make sure we weren't doing anything bad". Later I discovered he had another, sicker reason for doing this. I could come home feeling great and he'd still managed to make me feel two inches tall. I was 18 - an adult - and he still hand his evil claws sunk into my insides.
So I moved out. That was the first step. It was tough, because I didn't have a lot of money, but I couldn't take it anymore. Almost immediately I felt better, and as time passed things got easier. I still had depressed spells, but without his constant hammering at my ego I was able to begin working on my own self-esteem issues.
The next big break came when I stopped caring so much about other people's opinion of me. I don't know how it happened, or why, but I can remember the day when I realized that I hadn't cried in over a month, hadn't been had a major depression in months, and could go through a day without feeling the need to analyze everything people said to me, in search of hidden insults. It was a great feeling. I haven't been depressed for years now. I do get sad when something sad happens - like when the little black kitty died - but there's no more of this floating sense of doom & gloom. I'm disgustingly happy with my life. I've worked damn hard to get where I am, and I feel like the luckiest chick on earth.
My sister is still stuck in the hole. She's living with members of the family and sees our father (her molestor - from what she's told me as an adult, the abuse she took makes my childhood look like Leave It To Beaver) on a regular basis. I try to explain to her that she needs to GET OUT if she ever wants to be well, but she's too far gone to listen to me. She's an alcoholic and (I suspect) a drug addict. It's so annoying to me to watch someone deliberately ruin their life that I rarely return her phone calls.
Anyhow, that's my rambling story. As someone who spent her teen years in misery, I can tell you that the world IS a beautiful place once you cut the albatross from your neck. It IS your perception that's messed up, not the world. Figure out what's getting you down, work to change that, and eventually all the clouds just disappear. I swear.
So I moved out. That was the first step. It was tough, because I didn't have a lot of money, but I couldn't take it anymore. Almost immediately I felt better, and as time passed things got easier. I still had depressed spells, but without his constant hammering at my ego I was able to begin working on my own self-esteem issues.
The next big break came when I stopped caring so much about other people's opinion of me. I don't know how it happened, or why, but I can remember the day when I realized that I hadn't cried in over a month, hadn't been had a major depression in months, and could go through a day without feeling the need to analyze everything people said to me, in search of hidden insults. It was a great feeling. I haven't been depressed for years now. I do get sad when something sad happens - like when the little black kitty died - but there's no more of this floating sense of doom & gloom. I'm disgustingly happy with my life. I've worked damn hard to get where I am, and I feel like the luckiest chick on earth.
My sister is still stuck in the hole. She's living with members of the family and sees our father (her molestor - from what she's told me as an adult, the abuse she took makes my childhood look like Leave It To Beaver) on a regular basis. I try to explain to her that she needs to GET OUT if she ever wants to be well, but she's too far gone to listen to me. She's an alcoholic and (I suspect) a drug addict. It's so annoying to me to watch someone deliberately ruin their life that I rarely return her phone calls.
Anyhow, that's my rambling story. As someone who spent her teen years in misery, I can tell you that the world IS a beautiful place once you cut the albatross from your neck. It IS your perception that's messed up, not the world. Figure out what's getting you down, work to change that, and eventually all the clouds just disappear. I swear.
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Alright... some advice from one's who IS there
Todd, I know EXACTLY what you mean, you're practically mirroring me. I have been on antidepressants for about 6 years now, I'm one of those people that has few neurotransmitters, which are necessary for the uptake of serotonin, a chemical enzyme in your body that triggers certain parts of the brain. Most clinical depression is desribed this way. It is nothing unusual at all, and I'm not afraid to say that without my meds, I'd be one really depressed/angry chick. Believe me, I know what you mean about when you're around other people! If you want, email, and I can tell you anything you want to know. Myst_8@hotmail.com
Todd, I know EXACTLY what you mean, you're practically mirroring me. I have been on antidepressants for about 6 years now, I'm one of those people that has few neurotransmitters, which are necessary for the uptake of serotonin, a chemical enzyme in your body that triggers certain parts of the brain. Most clinical depression is desribed this way. It is nothing unusual at all, and I'm not afraid to say that without my meds, I'd be one really depressed/angry chick. Believe me, I know what you mean about when you're around other people! If you want, email, and I can tell you anything you want to know. Myst_8@hotmail.com
Re: Alright... some advice from one's who IS there
Thanks everyone for the advice and heartwarming stories of overcoming or is it over cumming?
Your situaiton sounds very much like mine, who did you have to go to to get diagnosed? Med docotr, out patience, shrink. And just incase my doctor is as incompetent in this as he is with my thyroid
what type of antidepressents, cause I may have toget them through alternate sources.
Thanks everyone for the advice and heartwarming stories of overcoming or is it over cumming?
Myst said:
Your situaiton sounds very much like mine, who did you have to go to to get diagnosed? Med docotr, out patience, shrink. And just incase my doctor is as incompetent in this as he is with my thyroid
what type of antidepressents, cause I may have toget them through alternate sources.Here's my two cents worth from my own experiences. See if it fits:
If you like the spotlight and find yourself energized by it, you probably have a very strong ego.
The problem with a big ego is that if you are also sensitive, you are very self critical.
When you come home and sit alone, the self critical aspect kicks in and you go over all the stuff you did that you think maybe you shouldn't have or you went too far.
People in a leadership or management position have the downside of putting their ego on the line for yourself and others to take a wack at.
I find that knowing that it is likely to happen lets me prepare for it an to recognize what is happening when the downer sets in. By recognizing it, I find I can convince myself it will pass reasonably soon and so is bearable.
If you like the spotlight and find yourself energized by it, you probably have a very strong ego.
The problem with a big ego is that if you are also sensitive, you are very self critical.
When you come home and sit alone, the self critical aspect kicks in and you go over all the stuff you did that you think maybe you shouldn't have or you went too far.
People in a leadership or management position have the downside of putting their ego on the line for yourself and others to take a wack at.
I find that knowing that it is likely to happen lets me prepare for it an to recognize what is happening when the downer sets in. By recognizing it, I find I can convince myself it will pass reasonably soon and so is bearable.
i don't know about the ego concept cause i have never found that i really had much of one, What I like about being in front of people is making a sad downcast face, an anngry face a tired face and put a smile in its place putting a laff in thier voice a hop in thier step.
When I have done that I feel like I have helped contribute something decent to society.
BUT the big but, when I do that i put so much of mmyself into it that I littlerally drain myself, physical and mentally, and I come home and have nothing left to give myself.
Does that make sense?
When I have done that I feel like I have helped contribute something decent to society.
BUT the big but, when I do that i put so much of mmyself into it that I littlerally drain myself, physical and mentally, and I come home and have nothing left to give myself.
Does that make sense?
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Clomipramine (Anafranil, manufactured by Ciba-Geigy)
Fluoxetine (Prozac, manufactured by Lilly)
Fluvoxamine (Luvox, manufactured by Solvay)
Paroxetine (Paxil, manufactured by Smith-Kline Beecham)
Sertraline (Zoloft, manufactured by Pfizer)
Citalopram (Celexa, marketed by Forest Laboratories, Inc.)
these are seritonin reuptake inhibitors.. they keep seratonin from being broken down too rapidly.. they're the big six in antidepressant medication dealing with seratonin.. they're used to treat OCD (obsessive-compulsive disorder), mainly, since it's one of the most common mental disorders in the US, if not the world.. if your problem stems from a lack of seratonin, these are the ones to use.. if you do start on one of these, give it 8-10 weeks before judging its effectivness.. and different ones work for different people, so just b/c one doesn't work doesn't mean that the rest won't, too..
oh, Clomipramine affects other nuerotransmitters, so that might be the last one to try, if you do start on these..
you might also want to go here: http://www.ocfoundation.org/ocf1070a.htm
it's the screening test at the Obsessive-Compulsive Foundation for OCD.. about 1 in 25 adults have it at some point in time, and it's related to a lack of seratonin, so it might be worth it to at least give the place a once over.. i did a research paper on OCD, since my best friend was diagnosed three years ago, and b/c it's very likly that i have it, too.. my cousin was diagnosed with it, though it was when a friend of his was seeing a psychiatrist and was talking about him to the doc.. his mother refuses to let him even see a psych, since she doesn't want to pay for the meds since she wants a new car later this spring, and b/c she doesn't want people to think something's "wrong" with him...
i dunno, maybe it has nothing to do with you, Todd, but if even one person gets help b/c all the combined efforts i do for the rest of my life in this area, then i'll consider it more than worth it..
Fluoxetine (Prozac, manufactured by Lilly)
Fluvoxamine (Luvox, manufactured by Solvay)
Paroxetine (Paxil, manufactured by Smith-Kline Beecham)
Sertraline (Zoloft, manufactured by Pfizer)
Citalopram (Celexa, marketed by Forest Laboratories, Inc.)
these are seritonin reuptake inhibitors.. they keep seratonin from being broken down too rapidly.. they're the big six in antidepressant medication dealing with seratonin.. they're used to treat OCD (obsessive-compulsive disorder), mainly, since it's one of the most common mental disorders in the US, if not the world.. if your problem stems from a lack of seratonin, these are the ones to use.. if you do start on one of these, give it 8-10 weeks before judging its effectivness.. and different ones work for different people, so just b/c one doesn't work doesn't mean that the rest won't, too..
oh, Clomipramine affects other nuerotransmitters, so that might be the last one to try, if you do start on these..
you might also want to go here: http://www.ocfoundation.org/ocf1070a.htm
it's the screening test at the Obsessive-Compulsive Foundation for OCD.. about 1 in 25 adults have it at some point in time, and it's related to a lack of seratonin, so it might be worth it to at least give the place a once over.. i did a research paper on OCD, since my best friend was diagnosed three years ago, and b/c it's very likly that i have it, too.. my cousin was diagnosed with it, though it was when a friend of his was seeing a psychiatrist and was talking about him to the doc.. his mother refuses to let him even see a psych, since she doesn't want to pay for the meds since she wants a new car later this spring, and b/c she doesn't want people to think something's "wrong" with him...
i dunno, maybe it has nothing to do with you, Todd, but if even one person gets help b/c all the combined efforts i do for the rest of my life in this area, then i'll consider it more than worth it..
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Todd
You can go to any practitioner, I would suggest a normal doctor, they're cheaper and they seem to listen more (odd, I know). As for medications, it depends a lot on the side effects, some affect people in different ways. Some of the main stream ones would be: Zoloft, Paxil, Prozac, Wellbutrin, Celexa... there's one that starts with and "L," I think it's Ludine... and of course there are the herbal rememdies such as St. John's wart, but it really isn't that much cheaper because you have to take a lot more of it. But like I said, you've got my email addy... and I'll be there for ya.
You can go to any practitioner, I would suggest a normal doctor, they're cheaper and they seem to listen more (odd, I know). As for medications, it depends a lot on the side effects, some affect people in different ways. Some of the main stream ones would be: Zoloft, Paxil, Prozac, Wellbutrin, Celexa... there's one that starts with and "L," I think it's Ludine... and of course there are the herbal rememdies such as St. John's wart, but it really isn't that much cheaper because you have to take a lot more of it. But like I said, you've got my email addy... and I'll be there for ya.
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Hi Todd, my fiancee was diagnosed with clinical depression several years ago. His medical doctor was concerned about his eat & sleep habits. Change of diet,vitamins, exercise, etc didn't help. The medical doctor put him in touch with an excellent therapist who now sees us both. It took several tries on different meds, but he takes Paxil once a day & is doing very well. Without it, I doubt he would have been able to help me through this last 18 months. I have managed to stay off medication, mostly due to past substance abuse problems. I still have terrible insomnia & bad bouts of depression, but therapy & my support groups have helped more than I can say. I take melatonin to help me sleep or Ambien if it is a really bad night. If there is a clinic in your area, that might be a place to start. There are lots of good therapists out there, it is just sometimes difficult to find one that is affordable. I am lucky in that the State Crime Victim's Compensation
Fund has paid for part of my therapy. Good luck, depression is very treatable & I hope things work out for you.
Fund has paid for part of my therapy. Good luck, depression is very treatable & I hope things work out for you.
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Another thought: if there is a clinic in your area, ask them if they have a sliding scale of payment. Some of them do, and it can really make treatment affordable. I've been very fortunate to have access to such a place. It might be worth looking into. Nobody should suffer alone.
