I leave off the twisty...

[Ebonyfire]

Hello Eb Ma'am.........smiles........ would you care to borrow the Rebecca Dictionary of Kinetic Meanings......... nods..... I know your right , I really should have explained myself much better I was being a bit silly.....heh!!!

This Thread had fluctuated from cartoon to concrete , I am seriously liking Sir Shanks last paragraph currently.

R.D.K.M

cartoon to concrete : To fluctuate from frivolous to serious

Silly is good. It makes me smile!

 

[Ebonyfire]

I've always been made to feel kind of marginal and freaky because I never got the Rhett Butler/Heathcliff/Man's Man non litter box trained thing. I liked Roger Moore better than Sean Connery as Bond because he's such an effete cunt about it.

That is such a great phrase, "effete cunt"!!

 

[Ebonyfire]

I know why I am still single. I just say NO to marriage.
I see marriage as a bad business deal for this woman. But I am shrewd enough to never say never. I would hate to sit down and eat a big plate of "I told you so!"

 

[jadefirefly]

All I want is a guy who CAN be well-dressed, polite, and well-mannered, and who is intelligent enough to know when not to be.

I don't think that's too much to ask. Is it?

 

[JMohegan]

Given the context of the cartoon at the top of the thread, this definition of the term "bad boy" falls closest to my own:

the Rhett Butler/Heathcliff/Man's Man non litter box trained thing.

In contrast, the guys referenced below are just scum.

While I was being nice, not asking for what I needed to be alive, my wife was out fucking the “bad boy” - several of them as a matter of fact. I repeated the same thing with wife number two, and she repeated the “fuck the bad boys” thing.

 

[Ebonyfire]

Is there any other kind

Sheesh! I AM losing it! I just noticed the eye patch and the Yarrrr! LOL

 

[graceanne]

I found that comic so fucking funny I had tears in my eyes as I read it. And I had to share it with a community that I expect as a different approach - a community that can see a man whisper into the wife's ear just out of the kids earshot “I’m going to fuck you till you can’t walk, cunt” and lovingly pats her ass as he goes over to play with the kids.

Shank - a not so fucking nice Panty Daddy.

To tell the truth I've never dated a guy who isn't, at least, socially acceptable. I don't go for rude or disgusting guys, I did have to get the guys I dated by my stepdad.

And K's been known to corner me, kiss me senseless, and then go to play with the kids.

 

[graceanne]

I know why I am still single. I just say NO to marriage.
I see marriage as a bad business deal for this woman. But I am shrewd enough to never say never. I would hate to sit down and eat a big plate of "I told you so!"

LOL That reminds me. I met my sister in law years before I met my husband. I used to babysit for her (I was 15). Once I said to her "I can't imagine deliberately marrying someone of the <my last name>." I swear, God is still laughing at me for that one, considering I married K four years later.

There's this country song, by Tim McGraw, that this thread reminded me of it. It goes:

Girl, you've never known no one like me
Up there in your high society
They might tell you I'm no good
Girl they just need to understand
Just who I am

I may be a real bad boy
But baby I'm a real good man

I may drink too much and play too loud
Hang out with a rough and rowdy crowd
That don't mean I don't respect
My mama or my Uncle Sam
Yes sir, yes ma'am

I may be a real bad boy
But baby I'm a real good man

Might have a reckless streak
At least a country mile wide
If you're gonna run with me
It's gonna be a wild ride
When it comes to lovin' you
I've got velvet hands
I'll show you how a real bad boy
Can be a real good man

I'll take all the good times I can get
I'm too young for growing up just yet
Ain't much I can promise you
Except to do the best I can
I'll be damned

I may be a real bad boy
But baby I'm a real good man

I may be a real bad boy
But baby I'm a real good man

 

[LadyAria]

Most the men I have dated look like they fell out of a j.crew catalog, but they are all very very bad boys.

 

[the captians wench]

In some male therapies resolving the Madonna/whore (not that Madonna whore) dilemma is a necessity for a man to be happily married. Some men want a Madonna to raise the children and a whore in the bedroom and cannot resolved the two in the same person. They don’t want to butt-fuck their kids momma. It can be a huge problem for some relationships. The same thing happens with some women. They want a “nice” safe guy they can depend on to help raise a family, but want to raped by the stud who rides off into the sunset.

One thing my mom taught me from the time I was about thirteen "a man wants a lady in the parlar, a chef in the kitchen and a whore in the bedroom". Well, along with that I was also taught all the domestic goddess nessesities, and proper mannors, entertaining and yatta yatta right down to holding my pinky out when I hold a glass (which was a night mare trying to play the clarinet that way mind you). Add in my *ahem* well powered libido and just over all naughtiness, combined with my shyness and I pretty much grew into my mom's idea of what a perfect woman should be. But much like you dear shankie, my husband found another woman who wasn't quite so damn perfect, in his words. Me, I've always wanted a nice guy, who of couse would tie me up, spank my ass red and fuck me till the sun came up, but when that sun does rise, I want him there, not running off for the next play date. I want to be snuggled and loved and cuddled and praised and maybe fucked all over again. but that's me.

I found that comic so fucking funny I had tears in my eyes as I read it. And I had to share it with a community that I expect as a different approach - a community that can see a man whisper into the wife's ear just out of the kids earshot “I’m going to fuck you till you can’t walk, cunt” and lovingly pats her ass as he goes over to play with the kids.

*purr* That's hot.

 

[shy slave]

Bad boys have an appeal to me.

But its curiosity as oppose to want.
Long before my interest in BDSM I found sex with bad boys pretty dull, and sex with dull men pretty interesting.
Its as if they think being bad is enough, and no further effort is required.

I seem to end up with the kind who are all normal looking on the outside but have some bloody strange habits and interests on the inside!

Not good or bad, just weird LOL

Not all the weirdness has been sexual, in fact hardly any of it.

Usually they are boys/men with strange and unusual interests outside the bedroom.

Andante fits into a unique category: looks very normal (and gorgeous ) and has weird interests in and out of the bedroom

As for the cartoon, not only did it made me laugh out loud, it proves you can't be what your not just to please someone else.

Thanks for that Shank

 

[Cherrysweetdeal]

I like the men who look bad.... and look big(lotsa muscles) they like to cause a bit of trouble but they have to actually take care of me. Besides sometimes its fun to be bad with them. It's more so ruggedness that I look for, a man who's not willing to let anyone step on him.

I still like G he's got some awesome qualities like that. A lil bit bad yet he'd do anything in the world for me.

Cherry

 

[FurryFury]

I know why I am still single. I just say NO to marriage.
I see marriage as a bad business deal for this woman. But I am shrewd enough to never say never. I would hate to sit down and eat a big plate of "I told you so!"

I agree with you. I often marvel that I've been married twice. LOL.

In my house we seldom talk about what men want in a woman. Hmm. I wonder why that is.

Fury

 

[Netzach]

nice - c.1290, "foolish, stupid, senseless," from O.Fr. nice "silly, foolish," from L. nescius "ignorant," lit. "not-knowing," from ne- "not" (see un-) + stem of scire "to know." "The sense development has been extraordinary, even for an adj." [Weekley] -- from "timid" (pre-1300); to "fussy, fastidious" (c.1380); to "dainty, delicate" (c.1405); to "precise, careful" (1500s, preserved in such terms as a nice distinction and nice and early); to "agreeable, delightful" (1769); to "kind, thoughtful" (1830). In 16c.-17c. it is often difficult to determine exactly what is meant when a writer uses this word. By 1926, it was pronounced "too great a favorite with the ladies, who have charmed out of it all its individuality and converted it into a mere diffuser of vague and mild agreeableness." [Fowler]



I have been a nice man all my life. I married for the first time at age 19, in 1966, before the feminist liberation movement in the U.S. started. Respect and responsibility and “take care of your woman”, be a nice guy, were all touted as how to be a real man. Don’t be a “naughty buy”. I took that BS hook line and sinker. While I was being nice, not asking for what I needed to be alive, my wife was out fucking the “bad boy” - several of them as a matter of fact. I repeated the same thing with wife number two, and she repeated the “fuck the bad boys” thing. It took 30 years of being the nice guy before I wised up and also started fucking the “bad boys”

In some male therapies resolving the Madonna/whore (not that Madonna whore) dilemma is a necessity for a man to be happily married. Some men want a Madonna to raise the children and a whore in the bedroom and cannot resolved the two in the same person. They don’t want to butt-fuck their kids momma. It can be a huge problem for some relationships. The same thing happens with some women. They want a “nice” safe guy they can depend on to help raise a family, but want to raped by the stud who rides off into the sunset.

I most certainly have unresolved issues with this whole thing.

I found that comic so fucking funny I had tears in my eyes as I read it. And I had to share it with a community that I expect as a different approach - a community that can see a man whisper into the wife's ear just out of the kids earshot “I’m going to fuck you till you can’t walk, cunt” and lovingly pats her ass as he goes over to play with the kids.

Shank - a not so fucking nice Panty Daddy.

I get this, and I get the seething rage behind the "nice guy" existence. There's putting up with endearingly sexy bitchiness and there's being used in a not-good way.

I would classify my husband as a nice guy you can take home to gramma who is totally deranged and twisted behind the scenes. A J Crew lookin' guy who likes to put things in his winkie and wear panties. A little like you without the ink in that regard.

I let him be him (hell - if he wasn't a queer pervert of the nth degree I'd still be happily single) but I would never classify him as a bad boy. And I never wanted to fuck those guys, I either steered clear or they got to eat my intellectual dust. Some would come crawling sufficiently cowed and therefore possibly suitable, some would accuse me of wanting to fuck them, but if I wanted to I would have, and I wouldn't then.

My stud is an interesting conundrum - he's a bad boy who knows how to be *just* non-threatening enough. With everyone else, that is. He's a top because the world sees him that way -- but I know better. He's very suave and he's an incredible hunter. He got me, I freely admit that. However, he also had the good or bad sense to be as *gotten* as I was. Both of us are equally adept as masquerading as non-threatening when we're really after something and both of us were ultimately willing to make ourselves just that vulnerable in this one case.

 

[Shankara20]

I get this, and I get the seething rage behind the "nice guy" existence. There's putting up with endearingly sexy bitchiness and there's being used in a not-good way.

I would classify my husband as a nice guy you can take home to gramma who is totally deranged and twisted behind the scenes. A J Crew lookin' guy who likes to put things in his winkie and wear panties. A little like you without the ink in that regard.

I let him be him (hell - if he wasn't a queer pervert of the nth degree I'd still be happily single) but I would never classify him as a bad boy. And I never wanted to fuck those guys, I either steered clear or they got to eat my intellectual dust. Some would come crawling sufficiently cowed and therefore possibly suitable, some would accuse me of wanting to fuck them, but if I wanted to I would have, and I wouldn't then.

My stud is an interesting conundrum - he's a bad boy who knows how to be *just* non-threatening enough. With everyone else, that is. He's a top because the world sees him that way -- but I know better. He's very suave and he's an incredible hunter. He got me, I freely admit that. However, he also had the good or bad sense to be as *gotten* as I was. Both of us are equally adept as masquerading as non-threatening when we're really after something and both of us were ultimately willing to make ourselves just that vulnerable in this one case.

He sound "authentic" to me - alive, dare I say passionate. The curse of being nice is to push "out of it all (his) individuality".

In this context being a "bad boy" is not about being violent, rude, uncaring or generally obnoxious. It is about being genuine - being able to say "I want", "no", "yes", "I am this" with authenticity. being about being true to who he is and finding ways to live that out without taking anything away for anyone else.

He sounds like a neat man, in my opinion.

 

[FurryFury]

Random thought:

I leave off the twisty too. I tend to let the cats play with them. I use clothespins instead of twisties.

Fury

 

[Kowalski2]

I've been accused of being a 'nice' guy, even 'too nice' for years, it really started to annoy me last year, especially when people used it as the excuse as to why I'd been single for ages (4 years). So this year I decided to let go of the too nice side of me, and you know what, I get it now.

I finally understand what too nice means! Too nice is putting others before yourself ALL the time. Too nice is bending over backwards to be liked, too nice is trying too hard!

Now I'm true to myself more, if I think no I say no, If I think yes I say yes, well, more often anyway. I still class myself as a nice guy, but I don't think I'm too nice anymore.

The thing is I've had more sex this year than ever! A lot of that is down to increased confidence, and believing that maybe, just maybe that good looking woman might find me attractive, but Its also down to the fact that I'm just not so ridiculously nice anymore, and I'm discovering my dominant side more and more and more...

Anyway, my point is, nice is good, too nice is just letting people walk all over you (well unless that's what you want of course! ) and that's not attractive... is it?

 

[Shankara20]

I've been accused of being a 'nice' guy, even 'too nice' for years, it really started to annoy me last year, especially when people used it as the excuse as to why I'd been single for ages (4 years). So this year I decided to let go of the too nice side of me, and you know what, I get it now.

I finally understand what too nice means! Too nice is putting others before yourself ALL the time. Too nice is bending over backwards to be liked, too nice is trying too hard!

Now I'm true to myself more, if I think no I say no, If I think yes I say yes, well, more often anyway. I still class myself as a nice guy, but I don't think I'm too nice anymore.

The thing is I've had more sex this year than ever! A lot of that is down to increased confidence, and believing that maybe, just maybe that good looking woman might find me attractive, but Its also down to the fact that I'm just not so ridiculously nice anymore, and I'm discovering my dominant side more and more and more...

Anyway, my point is, nice is good, too nice is just letting people walk all over you (well unless that's what you want of course! ) and that's not attractive... is it?

thank you for your point of view

 

[Ebonyfire]

I finally understand what too nice means! Too nice is putting others before yourself ALL the time. Too nice is bending over backwards to be liked, too nice is trying too hard!

Sounds like you were raised to be ladylike. Most of the women of my generation were raised to do exactly what you described, in order to "catch" a man.

Eb

 

[the captians wench]

Random thought:

I leave off the twisty too. I tend to let the cats play with them. I use clothespins instead of twisties.

Fury

I have other usese for clothes pegs.

besides, I make my bread fresh most of the time.

 

[FurryFury]

I have other usese for clothes pegs.

besides, I make my bread fresh most of the time.

Ummm! The smell of fresh bread is sooooo yummy!

Clothes pins are too hurty for me to last long most places. I'm all sensitive and shit.

Fury

 

[lne_iii]

I've always gone for the sweet nerdy types *giggles*

Tho now they MUST have a willingness to tan my hide

You talkin' ta me?
You must be talkin' ta me, cause no one else here fits that description.

 

[Kowalski2]

It's probably worth mentioning that it's not just men who can be 'too nice'. I know a lovely, attractive woman, good personality, the works. It's just that she doesn't do a thing for me, as she's too damn nice!

If only she'd swear once in a while, or admit she likes rough anal sex... that'd probably do it!!

 

[Cherrysweetdeal]

It's probably worth mentioning that it's not just men who can be 'too nice'. I know a lovely, attractive woman, good personality, the works. It's just that she doesn't do a thing for me, as she's too damn nice!

If only she'd swear once in a while, or admit she likes rough anal sex... that'd probably do it!!

Lol its that whole looking sweet and innocent thing while they can be cursing like a banshee when they are very angry. I have a way of looking sexy and then pulling a cute face or even slightly evil glare.... It's a good way of distracting G sometimes heh.

 

[Lilith]

I nerds.