I miss the fitness threads and the fitness Doms!

[FurryFury]

I have that problem too. However, when I put my mind to it, in complete disgust with my body trying to get into a size ten rather than a size eight, I'm happy to report I found the time to do at least a little bit of a work out at home all but one day of the very busy week I was having.

I had to keep it upper most in my mind and top priority to find the spaces I could fit it in though.

I've not been able to motivate myself to work out except when my friend comes to work out once a week.

 

[ultramarineblue]

I have that problem too. However, when I put my mind to it, in complete disgust with my body trying to get into a size ten rather than a size eight, I'm happy to report I found the time to do at least a little bit of a work out at home all but one day of the very busy week I was having.

I had to keep it upper most in my mind and top priority to find the spaces I could fit it in though.

It definitely helps to prioritize with exercise near the top of the list. I haven't done better yet but today is the next day for me to work out on my own.

Lately when I do try, something will happen. A week or two ago I couldn't sleep very much the night before so I was so tired I didn't have the energy to stay awake long enough to work out. I'm didn't sleep great last night and today could be potentially stressful. I'm in a better frame of mind about exercise though as in, if I don't get to it won't be because I'm being lazy.

 

[Keroin]

Exercise has been diffident and sporadic lately, but a sharp change in diet has netted a 10lb loss over the course of the last three weeks. Can't complain.



Hugs to the Keroin. You have had a rough year. But, hey, if you lose a bunch of weight maybe you can double for that starlet, eh?

(Trying to find a bright side to the health probs, yanno.)

LOL. Actually I had the same thought, (very briefly).

Glad to hear of your weight loss H! I know you've been making an effort. Gotten in any bike riding lately? Has it cooled down there yet? How about your lifting partner, what's the scoop there?

The good news here, as I mentioned in the Blurt thread, is that I've found myself a local ART practitioner who is top drawer. She's experienced and talented and unafraid to hurt me, which I love. Best yet, the visits are covered by health insurance! Yay!

I can't believe how much mobility I've gained after just five sessions - shocking. I'm hoping that this means, once all the health issues are resolved, I'll make better gains on the road and at the gym this fall/winter.

*crosses fingers*

 

[FurryFury]

It definitely helps to prioritize with exercise near the top of the list. I haven't done better yet but today is the next day for me to work out on my own.

Lately when I do try, something will happen. A week or two ago I couldn't sleep very much the night before so I was so tired I didn't have the energy to stay awake long enough to work out. I'm didn't sleep great last night and today could be potentially stressful. I'm in a better frame of mind about exercise though as in, if I don't get to it won't be because I'm being lazy.

Exercise helps me feel more peaceful and sleepy. I could be floor exercises, cardio, or yoga but it all helps even if I only get 15-30 minutes in.

I hope you get yours in.

*HUG*

FF

 

[ultramarineblue]

Exercise helps me feel more peaceful and sleepy. I could be floor exercises, cardio, or yoga but it all helps even if I only get 15-30 minutes in.

I hope you get yours in.

*HUG*

FF

I got a great workout in tonight. I want to try and go through my yoga tomorrow.

 

[FurryFury]

I got a great workout in tonight. I want to try and go through my yoga tomorrow.

Yay! Good job!

 

[ultramarineblue]

Yay! Good job!

Thank you. I definitely get what you say about feeling calmer. The sleepy should kick in momentarily.

 

[Homburg]

LOL. Actually I had the same thought, (very briefly).

Glad to hear of your weight loss H! I know you've been making an effort. Gotten in any bike riding lately? Has it cooled down there yet? How about your lifting partner, what's the scoop there?

It has cooled off a bit. I really should be taking advantage of it, but unemployment has an amazing way of eating up my time. I've gotten a coupla projects done and out of the way so maybe I will be able to have some free time. I've got a painting commission to finish for tomorrow, but hopefully that will be it for the short term. Maybe I'll get to ride this weekend.

I'd hoped to take advantage of "free time" but, wow, it's difficult. Lack of a schedule throws me off, and it is easy to immerse myself in the distractions that keep me from thinking about employment issues. HIGHLY annoying.

Lifting partner hasn't been able to make it out, so we've been on a mutual layoff. Honestly, while it sounds cheesy, I think it's a good thing. We were both grinding down pretty badly there at the end, and were planning on lightening up. A layoff probably did us both good. Considering how long we'd been at it, I'm impressed.

The good news here, as I mentioned in the Blurt thread, is that I've found myself a local ART practitioner who is top drawer. She's experienced and talented and unafraid to hurt me, which I love. Best yet, the visits are covered by health insurance! Yay!

I can't believe how much mobility I've gained after just five sessions - shocking. I'm hoping that this means, once all the health issues are resolved, I'll make better gains on the road and at the gym this fall/winter.

*crosses fingers*

That really awesome! WooT for you!

Also glad to see somebody I know and trust going through this. I did get to talk to a big ART guy recently (I looked at his car for work a month or so ago), and we did chat a bit. He mentioned a new offshoot, but it had an odd name. Can't frikken remember it.

Anyway, glad to hear that you've gotten some mobility. That is really great news.

 

[Lizzie_Borden]

So, with some prodding from Mr, I've started eating properly and getting some exercise as well. I'm down about 5kg in about 6-7 weeks, which is not outstanding, but still good.

I'm finally ready to sort this out once and for all, so slow, steady progress will be the right thing for me, since I'm all about making good choices and changing lifestyles and habits and what not.

Which leads me to ask about protein products. Who knows about those? Worth it or no? I'm definitely not looking to do meal replacements, fuck that shit, I like food!, but I can substitute some snacks and things to have it.

Will it *really* help boost the metabolism and build muscle and burn fat a bit faster, or should I stick with a good balanced diet?

 

[pointkicker]

Well done fellow Aussie!! I am far from an expert, so maybe do a little research, but yeah I would up your protein.
Fills you up, you can have smaller meals without losing energy. Little snacks like tins of tuna (I mix them with thai trident soups for work, that is a tasty meal for just over $2!!), plus there are so many tasty, healthy and easy meals you can make. Just throw in your skinless chicken, steak or fish, turkey burgers whatever... the old rules always ring true, no carbs after 3 unless the day before big exercise, like a triathlon or something.
I always think there are 21 meals in the week, so have 20 planned ones and one where you can eat absolutely anything you like!! Having a reward helps you stay disciplined the rest of the week, otherwise you might start breaking the rules "just a little bit" too often.
Go for it!!!

 

[Lizzie_Borden]

Well done fellow Aussie!! I am far from an expert, so maybe do a little research, but yeah I would up your protein.
Fills you up, you can have smaller meals without losing energy. Little snacks like tins of tuna (I mix them with thai trident soups for work, that is a tasty meal for just over $2!!), plus there are so many tasty, healthy and easy meals you can make. Just throw in your skinless chicken, steak or fish, turkey burgers whatever... the old rules always ring true, no carbs after 3 unless the day before big exercise, like a triathlon or something.
I always think there are 21 meals in the week, so have 20 planned ones and one where you can eat absolutely anything you like!! Having a reward helps you stay disciplined the rest of the week, otherwise you might start breaking the rules "just a little bit" too often.
Go for it!!!

Meh, I eat carbs after 3. I just don't have as much as I used to. I'll die before I give up carbs.

 

[ultramarineblue]

Meh, I eat carbs after 3. I just don't have as much as I used to. I'll die before I give up carbs.

From your earlier post, it sounds like you're trying to live differently which is key. I can't really answer your question about the protein stuff. I would tend to think the good balanced diet is the best bet but then again I'm not an expert.

 

[Lizzie_Borden]

From your earlier post, it sounds like you're trying to live differently which is key. I can't really answer your question about the protein stuff. I would tend to think the good balanced diet is the best bet but then again I'm not an expert.

Yeah, I'm just trying to eat normally. No skipping meals, no dinner at 10pm, no hulking man sized portions when I do eat, no packet of tim tams for dessert, no 3 or 4 blocks of cadbury a week.

 

[Keroin]

So, with some prodding from Mr, I've started eating properly and getting some exercise as well. I'm down about 5kg in about 6-7 weeks, which is not outstanding, but still good.

I'm finally ready to sort this out once and for all, so slow, steady progress will be the right thing for me, since I'm all about making good choices and changing lifestyles and habits and what not.

Which leads me to ask about protein products. Who knows about those? Worth it or no? I'm definitely not looking to do meal replacements, fuck that shit, I like food!, but I can substitute some snacks and things to have it.

Will it *really* help boost the metabolism and build muscle and burn fat a bit faster, or should I stick with a good balanced diet?

Hey Lizzie, congrats on the new health program!

I'm not a nutritionist (though my good friend is) but anyone who is a regular on this thread knows about my extensive fitness background.

From what I've read, you are on the right path already and I like your slow and steady approach. And don't be discouraged, healthy weight loss is about 1-2 pounds per week - so you're not that far off.

Adding protein alone will not speed up your metabolism or help burn fat. That is a myth, so chuck it. And carbohydrates are not the devil, so don't fall for that either. If you're considering adding protein supplements such as bars and powders, forget that too. The only people who need and/or will benefit from those are athletes and weight lifters. Plus, read the labels, many have a lot of crap in them that you do not want.

Everyone's body and metabolism are different but as a rule of thumb you want to eat foods that are low GI (glycemic index). All foods, essentially, break down into sugar and that's what gives us our energy. Some foods break down quickly and give you a really high spike of sugar that disappears quickly (making you feel tired and hungry), others break down slowly and only give a low or moderate amount of sugar, (these keep your energy level stable and keep you feeling full). Eating foods from the latter group, the low GI group, will help keep you from feeling hungry and still maintain your energy level throughout the day.

Here is a chart of some high, medium and low GI foods. You want to eat as many from the green zone as possible.

Other helpful tips.

- small portions
- whole foods whenever possible
- substitute sugar with agave or stevia
- drink water, lots of water. (Many times when we feel hungry, we're actually thirsty)
- try to build a support group. People who have some kind of regular support are 30% more successful at reaching their weight goals.
- EXERCISE!!! Choose a fun activity that you look forward to.
- Try to stick to your weight loss program for three months minimum. This is the length of time it tales for a behaviour to become a habit.
- Don't become scale-obsessed. I hate scales! (For most people). Weight fluctuates based on so many factors and you're likely to bum yourself out more than motivate yourself.

And I could ramble on and on. But those are some good starters. Weight Watchers is an excellent program. It's relatively inexpensive and they keep current with research. I would give them a try.

Anyway, best of luck, feel free to ask any questions you like here, there are lots of helpful folks on this thread.

 

[Keroin]

It has cooled off a bit. I really should be taking advantage of it, but unemployment has an amazing way of eating up my time. I've gotten a coupla projects done and out of the way so maybe I will be able to have some free time. I've got a painting commission to finish for tomorrow, but hopefully that will be it for the short term. Maybe I'll get to ride this weekend.

I'd hoped to take advantage of "free time" but, wow, it's difficult. Lack of a schedule throws me off, and it is easy to immerse myself in the distractions that keep me from thinking about employment issues. HIGHLY annoying.

Lifting partner hasn't been able to make it out, so we've been on a mutual layoff. Honestly, while it sounds cheesy, I think it's a good thing. We were both grinding down pretty badly there at the end, and were planning on lightening up. A layoff probably did us both good. Considering how long we'd been at it, I'm impressed.

I think breaks are good or just changes in routine. Any time an activity starts to feel stale there's always the danger that you'll start to feel negatively toward it, which isn't good.

And yeah, schedule changes, (or lack of schedule), can mess with things. I feel where you're at regarding the employment issues, H, but you know as well as I do how important physical activity is for good mental health sooooo...ahem...don't make me get my whip, I have one and I'm not afraid to use it.

That really awesome! WooT for you!

Also glad to see somebody I know and trust going through this. I did get to talk to a big ART guy recently (I looked at his car for work a month or so ago), and we did chat a bit. He mentioned a new offshoot, but it had an odd name. Can't frikken remember it.

Anyway, glad to hear that you've gotten some mobility. That is really great news.

Thankee! I have been a fan of ART for years but obviously my living arrangements for the past few years have not allowed me the privilege of treatments.

So, I forced myself out for a short run yesterday, about 5K, a SLOW 5K by my standards. I am still weak and about two thirds of the way my body just...plllleeeeehhhh. But I pushed on. For the first part, however, I was blown away at how limber I felt and how easy the motions were. Aaaahhhh. What a difference. This has got me excited!

While running I came across a snake on the path and it actually 'leapt' at me. That was weird, though the nearby construction dudes got a good chuckle at my surprised squeal of alarm, lol.

 

[Lizzie_Borden]

Hey Lizzie, congrats on the new health program!

I'm not a nutritionist (though my good friend is) but anyone who is a regular on this thread knows about my extensive fitness background.

From what I've read, you are on the right path already and I like your slow and steady approach. And don't be discouraged, healthy weight loss is about 1-2 pounds per week - so you're not that far off.

Adding protein alone will not speed up your metabolism or help burn fat. That is a myth, so chuck it. And carbohydrates are not the devil, so don't fall for that either. If you're considering adding protein supplements such as bars and powders, forget that too. The only people who need and/or will benefit from those are athletes and weight lifters. Plus, read the labels, many have a lot of crap in them that you do not want.

Everyone's body and metabolism are different but as a rule of thumb you want to eat foods that are low GI (glycemic index). All foods, essentially, break down into sugar and that' what gives us our energy. Some foods break down quickly and give you a really high spike of sugar that disappears quickly (making you feel tired and hungry), others break down slowly and only give a low or moderate amount of sugar, (these keep your energy level stable and keep you feeling full). Eating foods from the latter group, the low GI group, will help keep you from feeling hungry and still maintain your energy level throughout the day.

Here is a chart of some high, medium and low GI foods. You want to eat as many from the green zone as possible.

Other helpful tips.

- small portions
- whole foods whenever possible
- substitute sugar with agave or stevia
- drink water, lots of water. (Many times when we feel hungry, we're actually thirsty)
- try to build a support group. People who have some kind of regular support are 30% more successful at reaching their weight goals.
- EXERCISE!!! Choose a fun activity that you look forward to.
- Try to stick to your weight loss program for three months minimum. This is the length of time it tales for a behaviour to become a habit.
- Don't become scale-obsessed. I hate scales! (For most people). Weight fluctuates based on so many factors and you're likely to bum yourself out more than motivate yourself.

And I could ramble on and on. But those are some good starters. Weight Watchers is an excellent program. It's relatively inexpensive and they keep current with research. I would give them a try.

Anyway, best of luck, feel free to ask any questions you like here, there are lots of helpful folks on this thread.

Thankies Keroin

I'm aiming for a slow and steady approach because I want to make permanent changes. I'm in a place where I'm emotionally ready to do so.

I'm making sure I have breakfast, and some snacks regularly. Because I live alone, and I loathe cooking full meals mid week, I try and cook in bulk on the weekends, portion and freeze. At lunch I have some fruit as well, and at dinner a serve of steamed veg.

I love carbs. I'd marry them if I could. And I do have some in every meal, but I just try limit that portion and load up on other things. That really bloody sucks when I make an awesome risotto too!

And I'm not into denying myself anything.. but I'll try and have a mini version of something, instead of of massive one. Heh. It seems to be working. So long as I have things portioned and ready to go, I'm having good meals.

The only thing I'm struggling with is the water intake, but it's been wintertime, and cold, but I'm working on it.

It's also a little scary though. I have a particular size/weight in mind to be by my next birthday, and it's quite achieveable... but the thought of being that size is a bit much for my brain to handle.

And I want to run. It looks like something I could get into. *nods*

Baby steps though. And no protein shake thingies!

 

[Keroin]

Thankies Keroin

I'm aiming for a slow and steady approach because I want to make permanent changes. I'm in a place where I'm emotionally ready to do so.

I'm making sure I have breakfast, and some snacks regularly. Because I live alone, and I loathe cooking full meals mid week, I try and cook in bulk on the weekends, portion and freeze. At lunch I have some fruit as well, and at dinner a serve of steamed veg.

I love carbs. I'd marry them if I could. And I do have some in every meal, but I just try limit that portion and load up on other things. That really bloody sucks when I make an awesome risotto too!

And I'm not into denying myself anything.. but I'll try and have a mini version of something, instead of of massive one. Heh. It seems to be working. So long as I have things portioned and ready to go, I'm having good meals.

The only thing I'm struggling with is the water intake, but it's been wintertime, and cold, but I'm working on it.

It's also a little scary though. I have a particular size/weight in mind to be by my next birthday, and it's quite achieveable... but the thought of being that size is a bit much for my brain to handle.

And I want to run. It looks like something I could get into. *nods*

Baby steps though. And no protein shake thingies!

Sounds awesome. You are definitely on the right path!

As for the water. The way I trick myself into it is I buy some of those sugar-free drink mixes. I only use about 10% of what you are supposed to, per drink - just a sprinkle for flavour, I don't like the chemicals they use for that stuff - but it's enough to convince my taste buds that I am having a 'real' drink instead of just mildly flavoured water. Works for me.

Running is awesome, BTW.

 

[Homburg]

Adding protein alone will not speed up your metabolism or help burn fat. That is a myth, so chuck it.

True, but added protein and proper exercise can support muscle growth, which will speed metabolism.

And carbohydrates are not the devil, so don't fall for that either. If you're considering adding protein supplements such as bars and powders, forget that too. The only people who need and/or will benefit from those are athletes and weight lifters. Plus, read the labels, many have a lot of crap in them that you do not want.

Well, anyone with serious muscle mass can benefit from more protein. Gotta keep those nitrogen levels proper, yanno. That said, in today's world, the only people with serious muscle mass are athletes and lifters

Everyone's body and metabolism are different but as a rule of thumb you want to eat foods that are low GI (glycemic index). All foods, essentially, break down into sugar and that's what gives us our energy. Some foods break down quickly and give you a really high spike of sugar that disappears quickly (making you feel tired and hungry), others break down slowly and only give a low or moderate amount of sugar, (these keep your energy level stable and keep you feeling full). Eating foods from the latter group, the low GI group, will help keep you from feeling hungry and still maintain your energy level throughout the day.

Protein, by its' nature, is low GI. Just sayin...

- whole foods whenever possible
- substitute sugar with agave or stevia
- drink water, lots of water. (Many times when we feel hungry, we're actually thirsty)
- try to build a support group. People who have some kind of regular support are 30% more successful at reaching their weight goals.
- EXERCISE!!! Choose a fun activity that you look forward to.
- Try to stick to your weight loss program for three months minimum. This is the length of time it tales for a behaviour to become a habit.
- Don't become scale-obsessed. I hate scales! (For most people). Weight fluctuates based on so many factors and you're likely to bum yourself out more than motivate yourself.

This list is GOLD. Pay attention to this. No, really. Pay attention to it!

As to protein, I admit that I'm biased. I'm a muscular guy, a lifter, and I flat work well on high protein diets. Not everyone is like me though. You really have to work out what works best for you.

I think breaks are good or just changes in routine. Any time an activity starts to feel stale there's always the danger that you'll start to feel negatively toward it, which isn't good.

I think adrenal exhaustion and general hormonal malaise was setting in too. Intensity can only be carried on heavy for so long before the body starts to do hormonal feedback.

And yeah, schedule changes, (or lack of schedule), can mess with things. I feel where you're at regarding the employment issues, H, but you know as well as I do how important physical activity is for good mental health sooooo...ahem...don't make me get my whip, I have one and I'm not afraid to use it.

Toppy bitch... I mean, uh, yeah, I'll get right on that.

Oh yeah, forgot to mention - FUCK, my allergies have gone insane. I've been taking Zyrtec almost every day, and I almost never take systemic meds for allergies. Wow the season change is fucking me up.

This is a huge factor because exercise of any sort is a wee bit difficult when you can breathe due to sneezing and coughing. I am SO fucking tired of this.

Thankee! I have been a fan of ART for years but obviously my living arrangements for the past few years have not allowed me the privilege of treatments.

I'm really happy that you are getting treatment. I happen to actually care about you, yanno.

While running I came across a snake on the path and it actually 'leapt' at me. That was weird, though the nearby construction dudes got a good chuckle at my surprised squeal of alarm, lol.

(Poisonous) Snakes are the only dangerous critter that I have an actual antipathy towards. Sure, I've killed my fair share of black widows (Poisonous spider IN my house? Oh no, little monkey.) and brown recluses, and they're dangerous as hell, but poisonous snakes have GOT to go. My grandfather had to put down one of his dogs due to a copperhead bite while we were there one year. No creature should have to suffer like that dog.

I haven't been able to stand them since. Regular snakes are a boon, and do wonders to keep down vermin. Copperheads, water moccasins, and rattlers are a menace.

Oddly enough, it was a rattler that eventually did in my grandfather. One spooked his horse causing her to rear up. She was a stolid beasty, but the snake was within striking distance so she reared. He slammed into a tree and got his riding belt hung on a limb. He stayed there for a few hours before my grandma found him, and never quite recovered. He died of related heart issues a little less than a year later.

I do not like poisonous snakes. Not one bit.

 

[Homburg]

Note: When we lived in Ft Bragg, black widows in the house were a fairly common occurrence. Enough so that you always had a flashlight around in the basement so you could look into nooks and shelves and stuff before reaching into them. Sometimes the widows even made it up into the ground floor. Found more than a couple in the kitchen.

That is one evil looking critter. I'm not one for killing spiders (I take them outside), but I will squish the hell out of a poisonous one in my house.

 

[FurryFury]

So, who knew there is a whooping cough epidemic in many states right now? Only one state has officially acknowledged it but I've been diagnosed.

 

[Keroin]

True, but added protein and proper exercise can support muscle growth, which will speed metabolism.

Well, anyone with serious muscle mass can benefit from more protein. Gotta keep those nitrogen levels proper, yanno. That said, in today's world, the only people with serious muscle mass are athletes and lifters

Protein, by its' nature, is low GI. Just sayin...

I'm not anti-protein, I'm just against this fad of protein = good, carbs = bad, plus I think that the *average* person can get by just fine with a regular amount of protein, from natural sources, without using supplements. I love me my protein shakes but when I'm not lifting/doing serious training I don't bother with them.

When I'm eating at my best, the bulk of my diet is veggies, with a small amount of protein - beans and nuts (almonds = very good) preferably but also fish and some meat. I know that you need your meat but you also have a lot of muscle mass; most people eat too much animal protein. When I'm eating for training, I am always full and excess weight just falls off me.

Toppy bitch... I mean, uh, yeah, I'll get right on that.

Tee hee.

Oh yeah, forgot to mention - FUCK, my allergies have gone insane. I've been taking Zyrtec almost every day, and I almost never take systemic meds for allergies. Wow the season change is fucking me up.

This is a huge factor because exercise of any sort is a wee bit difficult when you can breathe due to sneezing and coughing. I am SO fucking tired of this.

Much sympathy in your direction. I know too well this kind of frustration.

I'm really happy that you are getting treatment. I happen to actually care about you, yanno.

Aw shucks.

You're making it awfully difficult for me to lash you with that whip now!

(Poisonous) Snakes are the only dangerous critter that I have an actual antipathy towards. Sure, I've killed my fair share of black widows (Poisonous spider IN my house? Oh no, little monkey.) and brown recluses, and they're dangerous as hell, but poisonous snakes have GOT to go. My grandfather had to put down one of his dogs due to a copperhead bite while we were there one year. No creature should have to suffer like that dog.

I haven't been able to stand them since. Regular snakes are a boon, and do wonders to keep down vermin. Copperheads, water moccasins, and rattlers are a menace.

Oddly enough, it was a rattler that eventually did in my grandfather. One spooked his horse causing her to rear up. She was a stolid beasty, but the snake was within striking distance so she reared. He slammed into a tree and got his riding belt hung on a limb. He stayed there for a few hours before my grandma found him, and never quite recovered. He died of related heart issues a little less than a year later.

I do not like poisonous snakes. Not one bit.

Don't blame you at all. Luckily, there are no poisonous snakes in this area. I have no idea why it "leapt" at me. Maybe I just scared it?

But yeah, poisonous snakes I can live without. Same with poisonous spiders.

These days my biggest concern, while running, is grizzlies. There is a sow with three full grown cubs wandering around town lately. They've managed to capture one cub and relocate it but the other three bears remain on the loose. Thankfully it will soon get cold and they will have to go for a long nap.

 

[Keroin]

So, who knew there is a whooping cough epidemic in many states right now? Only one state has officially acknowledged it but I've been diagnosed.

Oh bummer! We had a WC outbreak here in the spring. I had it as a kid. *shudders* It was nasty.

Hope you get better soon, FF.

 

[Homburg]

So, who knew there is a whooping cough epidemic in many states right now? Only one state has officially acknowledged it but I've been diagnosed.

That's a little scary, wow.

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I'm not anti-protein, I'm just against this fad of protein = good, carbs = bad, plus I think that the *average* person can get by just fine with a regular amount of protein, from natural sources, without using supplements. I love me my protein shakes but when I'm not lifting/doing serious training I don't bother with them.

When I'm eating at my best, the bulk of my diet is veggies, with a small amount of protein - beans and nuts (almonds = very good) preferably but also fish and some meat. I know that you need your meat but you also have a lot of muscle mass; most people eat too much animal protein. When I'm eating for training, I am always full and excess weight just falls off me.

Oh, I didn't think that you were anti-protein. Just presenting a bit of different info. I don't think people eat too much protein per se. I think they eat too much crappy animal protein, usually with whopping shitloads of saturated fats ADDED in the cooking process.

That said, some people, including me as you mentioned, just flat need animal protein to survive. Something to do with amino acids and fats, though really specific balances of plant proteins should do the trick in theory. I just have no desire to tinker that deeply with my diet.

That said, I've had plenty veg meals that I've been perfectly happy with. Just not ones that I want all the time. Currently though, I get most of my protein from egg and dairy, what with the new diet.

You're making it awfully difficult for me to lash you with that whip now!

I'm tricky like that. Er, cute. Yeah, too cute.

Don't blame you at all. Luckily, there are no poisonous snakes in this area. I have no idea why it "leapt" at me. Maybe I just scared it?

But yeah, poisonous snakes I can live without. Same with poisonous spiders.

These days my biggest concern, while running, is grizzlies. There is a sow with three full grown cubs wandering around town lately. They've managed to capture one cub and relocate it but the other three bears remain on the loose. Thankfully it will soon get cold and they will have to go for a long nap.

Grizzlies > poisonous snakes.

That's some scary shit. Mama bear is probably extra pissy with one of her cubs missing.

 

[Keroin]

I'm tricky like that. Er, cute. Yeah, too cute.

*pinches cheek*

Mama bear is probably extra pissy with one of her cubs missing.

She charged a car - before the cub was taken away!

Yeah, not happy, I'm sure.

 

[Keroin]

I'm going to put this here because I know the subject distresses a lot of people on the rest of the board.

But...wow. Talk about dismal news.