I miss the fitness threads and the fitness Doms!

Anyone that says horseback riding isn't a sport has never done any serious riding. Let them post the trot for 15 mins and report back. ;)

And that's why my lazy ass rides gaited horses! ;)

But, seriously, even if riding isn't the greatest exercise, care of the horse IS. Brushing, combing, picking hooves, feeding, hauling water, tacking up, untacking, keeping tack and stalls and everything else clean, etc., etc., etc.
 
And that's why my lazy ass rides gaited horses! ;)

But, seriously, even if riding isn't the greatest exercise, care of the horse IS. Brushing, combing, picking hooves, feeding, hauling water, tacking up, untacking, keeping tack and stalls and everything else clean, etc., etc., etc.

Whew, no doubt. Those hay bales and 50 lb feed sacks don't stack themselves in the feed room.
 
What does "post the trot" mean?

Also - do you compete? If so, how is the winner decided?

Posting is done in English riding. When the horse is trotting you lift your bottom out of the saddle with your thigh muscles. When the horse's outside front leg is extending forward. So, with each stride, you come up.

I started competing about 18 months ago. I do hunters (jumping and "on the flat") In hunters you are judged on your form and how well you and your horse respond to cues and challenges (like complicated patterns with short turns). In jumpers, it is all about who can get through the course the fastest. Of course, the better your form, the more efficiently you and your horse can get through the course.
 
Posting is done in English riding. When the horse is trotting you lift your bottom out of the saddle with your thigh muscles. When the horse's outside front leg is extending forward. So, with each stride, you come up.

I started competing about 18 months ago. I do hunters (jumping and "on the flat") In hunters you are judged on your form and how well you and your horse respond to cues and challenges (like complicated patterns with short turns). In jumpers, it is all about who can get through the course the fastest. Of course, the better your form, the more efficiently you and your horse can get through the course.

Oh my. Now I've got a Rocky Horror song stuck in my head!

Thanks for explaining.
 
I went past a shop in my walk today

"Caddies: Golf & Sport for Women"

Obviously, golf is not a sport. :p
 
Hey! Now them's fightin' words!

;)

(Lake bass fishing a sport? No. Fighting a 32lb yellowtail for 45 minutes straight? Oh yeah baby!)

Never gone deep sea fishing, so when I think fishing it's in a john boat on a lake, or sitting beside a stream. Maybe walking in waders in the stream. So it's at least more strenuous than golf, as walking in water is a little tough, just sayin'...

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AHAHAHAHAHA!!

Greatest quote ever. Ohhh, FUCK, that's funny!

I'm glad somebody enjoyed that line. I smiled as I typed it.

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Did Mickey Mantle ever sweat, aside from weather-induced perspiration? In fact, probably not a whole helluva lot. Baseball is played in 5 second bursts by men who are in reasonably good shape in some regards but not others. Yogi Berra and all his pitchers probably did because they were engaged nearly all the time in the defensive halves of each inning.

I contend that sweat is not a perfect means test for X = sport.

I sweated like hell playing little league. For whatever reason, our league was a "historical" league, so all the teams were named after teams from the teens, and our uniforms were period as well. that means THICK material, bulky, and covered everything. And this was in North Carolina, so it was HOT.

Moreover though, while baseball occurs in blurts, I played right field, and when the pitcher was off, my ass was running all over the place. And my center fielder wasn't all that hot, so I had to support him too.

But more importantly, I reeeeally sweated my little butt off at practice. Running bases, running the outfield, chasing fly balls, racing my teammates to chase flyballs, push-ups, sit-ups, burpees, skills training, etc. Did I mention that my coach had just finished a rotation as a DI?

But when I tried playing golf in junior high? Didn't sweat on the green. Didn't sweat in practice. Never had to exercise. It was all skills training. The difference is that skills training in walkydarts, er, golf were all low-energy crap like working the driving range or putting green. Soooo hard.

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Most NCAA golf coaches are making around 100 thousand dollars a year at the better conferences. Now if you were the coach and considering how well they play could influence your job security, would you make strength and conditioning a part of the program? Or say fuck it boys, golf is darts while walking.

A lot of NCAA programs have a separate strength and conditioning coach for the program. Said S&C coach handles that area for all the teams (bar football in some schools). For a while, I was really into reading up on college level S&C as it is fascinating stuff, and they are really pushing the envelope in the field in many cases. This lead to reading a lot of articles and blogs by S&C coaches. In the vast, overwhelming majority of the cases, they all bitched about how the non-strength-related sports (golf being a frequent flyer here) either ignored the S&C coach, or vastly downplayed it in favor of skills.

Either way, as the golf coach isn't responsible for his player strength conditioning thanks to the S&C coach, he really does say "Fuck it," and doesn't worry about S&C more often than not.

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Mmmm, I'm bidding on ebay on a bike at the moment.

Now that I have a car, I can take said bike to the waterfront, or the river, and go pedalling. Yay.

(Well, provided that it fits in the car that is)

A bike rack tossed on the back of your car is a better, and safer, way to carry your bike. I use a Yakima rack, and it was not expensive. Works well too.

Remember, if your bike is poorly secured to your car, falls off in traffic, and damages another car, that damage is your fault.

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Thanks, made me smile too! I have found a new favourite sport...or game...or activity??

Sport. What an individual does is not competition per se, but add in a competitor and it certainly meets the PvE side of the definition I like, as well as JM's definition. And having watched a CC skiing spill on TV, I can certainly see that the consequence for failure can be painful. Ow.

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Anyone that says horseback riding isn't a sport has never done any serious riding. Let them post the trot for 15 mins and report back. ;)

Ridden all over the mountains of western NC, and spent many many hours in the saddle. Not competition riding for sure, but it did teach me an important lesson - the horse does all the heavy lifting.

Equestrian events may be hard, but they are no more a sport than NASCAR (which is also hard). You may be working, but the horse does the strenuous shit.
 
Ridden all over the mountains of western NC, and spent many many hours in the saddle. Not competition riding for sure, but it did teach me an important lesson - the horse does all the heavy lifting.

Equestrian events may be hard, but they are no more a sport than NASCAR (which is also hard). You may be working, but the horse does the strenuous shit.

Passive trail riding is hella different from jumping fences. I know that won't change your mind but there it is.
 
Never gone deep sea fishing, so when I think fishing it's in a john boat on a lake, or sitting beside a stream. Maybe walking in waders in the stream. So it's at least more strenuous than golf, as walking in water is a little tough, just sayin'...
I don't consider fishing of any kind to be a sport, because the fish didn't sign up for the competition.

Sport. What an individual does is not competition per se, but add in a competitor and it certainly meets the PvE side of the definition I like, as well as JM's definition. And having watched a CC skiing spill on TV, I can certainly see that the consequence for failure can be painful. Ow.
First person to the finish line wins. It's one of the pure Citius, Altius, Fortius sports. Like track, with snow.
 
Passive trail riding is hella different from jumping fences. I know that won't change your mind but there it is.

Hey, I've jumped horses over fences, fallen logs, and a snake a time or two. The horse still does the work. I'm just holding the reins.

And, again, I'm not saying it isn't difficult. It just isn't a sport.

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I don't consider fishing of any kind to be a sport, because the fish didn't sign up for the competition.

First person to the finish line wins. It's one of the pure Citius, Altius, Fortius sports. Like track, with snow.

Exactly, it is one person saying, "I am faster than you!" That is the pure essence of competition, and the core of sport.
 
Never gone deep sea fishing, so when I think fishing it's in a john boat on a lake, or sitting beside a stream. Maybe walking in waders in the stream. So it's at least more strenuous than golf, as walking in water is a little tough, just sayin'...

*snores*

:)

Kidding. I enjoy fishing for most types of fish. Though I don't fish for anything I don't intend to eat, especially billfish, no matter challenging it must be to fight a marlin or such.

I've seen a lot of big, muscular guys hand over their rod after ten minutes with a large tuna. (I've never passed off my rod. Ever. BTW. Point of honour with me.)
 
I don't consider fishing of any kind to be a sport, because the fish didn't sign up for the competition.

Agreed. Although we (and others) use the term "sport fishing" to denote the difference between commercial fishing, sustenance fishing, and the kind of fishing we do.
 
Never gone deep sea fishing, so when I think fishing it's in a john boat on a lake, or sitting beside a stream. Maybe walking in waders in the stream. So it's at least more strenuous than golf, as walking in water is a little tough, just sayin'...

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And you have walked how many courses with clubs on your back? Putt-putt doesn't count though putt-putt is probably more strenuous than darts. At least you have to bend over to get the ball out.

Hill country courses, not Iowa or coastal. Some have hills you wouldn't believe. Engineers try to avoid hills. Golf designers look for them.

Straight line, you are looking at over 4 miles. Probably more like 5. With 20 pounds on your back.

I know what it feels like to jog 5 miles. And to walk a course in the summer. I'd much rather jog as far as the exhaustion level is after you are done.

Plus the frustration level is beyond belief when it comes to golf. Just in causal lets go have a good time, type of play. The pressure of having to do something that exacting when money or titles are on the line are beyond belief. It's a cruel Mistress you can never truly master. Once in a generation someone comes close.

But we can call it the Greatest Game and leave it at that. And it's a game you can play your entire life. For a while I had a night job and was able to play 4 days a week with guys 40 and 50 years older. Guys in the calvary when they had horses, retired pro baseball umpires, and just your average retired Joe. Really cool people to be around.
 
I don't consider fishing of any kind to be a sport, because the fish didn't sign up for the competition.

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Then why are they so much fun to catch and to eat? Nothing much better in the world than fresh trout. Part of the food chain, huh?

But I am a card carrying member of PETA. People who Eat Tasty Animals.

Fuck, you don't want me eating production beef and I can't catch fish. What's next? Don't pull up carrots because they scream at a frequency we can't hear?
 
Then why are they so much fun to catch and to eat? Nothing much better in the world than fresh trout. Part of the food chain, huh?

But I am a card carrying member of PETA. People who Eat Tasty Animals.

Fuck, you don't want me eating production beef and I can't catch fish. What's next? Don't pull up carrots because they scream at a frequency we can't hear?

Your shot's wide of the mark here, WD.

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=30984436&postcount=70

Try again.
 
And you have walked how many courses with clubs on your back? Putt-putt doesn't count though putt-putt is probably more strenuous than darts. At least you have to bend over to get the ball out.

Four. One of those was walked many times.

Walked.

And if you blow a throw in darts it can, and does, land on the floor. So bend over and smile.

That said, the golfer method of keeping one leg down and pivoting on the hip instead of squatting down is a highly useful technique. It's much safer to pick light shit up off the ground that way. Makes sense that golfers would invent an efficient way to pick up a ball that weighs like an ounce. Wouldn't want to strain anything.

Hill country courses, not Iowa or coastal. Some have hills you wouldn't believe. Engineers try to avoid hills. Golf designers look for them.

Straight line, you are looking at over 4 miles. Probably more like 5. With 20 pounds on your back.

I know what it feels like to jog 5 miles. And to walk a course in the summer. I'd much rather jog as far as the exhaustion level is after you are done.

Hikers regular walk farther, carrying more, in much more adverse conditions. Doesn't make hiking a sport.

Plus the frustration level is beyond belief when it comes to golf. Just in causal lets go have a good time, type of play. The pressure of having to do something that exacting when money or titles are on the line are beyond belief. It's a cruel Mistress you can never truly master. Once in a generation someone comes close.

Frustration level? You know what's frustrating? Arguing on the internet. And in case you're wondering, no matter how frustrating it is, arguing on the internet is not a sport either :p

But we can call it the Greatest Game and leave it at that. And it's a game you can play your entire life. For a while I had a night job and was able to play 4 days a week with guys 40 and 50 years older. Guys in the calvary when they had horses, retired pro baseball umpires, and just your average retired Joe. Really cool people to be around.

The fact that you can golf as an 90yr old pensioner does not support the idea that it is a sport.

I can agree that it's a game. Fucking hard game, sure, and more exercise than playing monopoly, but, well, you know the rest.
 
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