I told you it was fixed

[BrightShinyGirl]

Seeing how it's probably another Icanhelp/hisarpy account...yes; he probably is.

Check the join date. I don't think Lone_Hawk is an alt. He's burning a 20-year-old Lit account simping for Trump.

 

[Lazaran]

Check the join date. I don't think Lone_Hawk is an alt. He's burning a 20-year-old Lit account simping for Trump.

I’m starting to suspect that some of these really twisted right wing Lit. old-timers had multiple accounts even back then, and they bust them out now as needed.

 

[icanhelp1]

Honestly, not much. The prosecution presented a lot of evidence, connected all the dots and Trump's defense team couldn't manufacture any doubt.

Zipperhead! where have you been? Being a New Yorker yourself you must me able to smell the stench of a miscarriage of justice.

 

[zysmith]

Trump reacts: "The real verdict is going to be November 5th by the people"

No, the verdict was already rendered. Don the con is a convicted felon.

 

[Kenrychard]

What choices we have, an elderly dangerous and demented jackass who thinks he is immune from any ethical standards and lies so much he probably has no idea, or even care, what truth is
Or a feeble minded old fool that spouts nonsense his advisors have repeatedly told him to stop saying, like " My son died in IraQ" and is nothing more than a bobblehead for younger morons just as stupid but with no excuse.

Term limits AND age limits rt at least a competency test Oh shit, Kamala would fail the competency test too.. what a dimwit.
While you all are fighting what is really happening is the ultra rich are continuing there 50 year agenda of acquiring all the wealth and property and creating a new system... Modern Feudalism and the rest of us and our children are fucked.

Do we all think Ralph Nader was a boob? Sure. Do we immediately turn off when we here Common Cause because it was his organization? Yes. And that makes us idiots, because ideas need to be listened too and considered, not ignored because you don't like the source. The Supreme Court fucked every American when it decided rights, those things that were suppose to be for the "People" . the guys Of the people, for the people and by the people were talking about, should be given to entities like corporations, political parties, labor unions and special interests. The only way to even start trying to fix this fucked up country is take the Goddamn money out of politics so the fucking whores that call themselves our leaders don't sell out all our asses. And Common Cause has a Constitutional Ammendment proposal that might just start the process. But 60% of Americans won't even listen because its, ohh Common Cause, Ralph Nader's extremist group. As a nation Of the People, we are doomed by our own stupidity and rigid biased and uninformed thinking.

And shit, I only dropped into this page by hitting the wrong link, the politics discussion pages are a joke.. most of you spout unsubstantiated garbage as if it fact, and when somebody does have a fact to share, you call it a lie. I long for the days before the internet when there were journalist standards and the right to sue for liable and slander. Hey, lets create a world wide web, make it a public forum, but immune all of its users from liability by claiming it's not public and not subject to the regulations that TV and newspapers and books and everything BUT the internet are covered by.

Yeah we are definitely fucked.

 

[AlexBailey]

There will a notice of appeal with a request to remain free on bond while the appeal is pending. If the appeals court refuses there will be a writ to the SCOTUS for a stay pending the outcome of the appeal.

If the appeal goes against Trump then SCOTUS will eventually hear the case, the stakes are too high for them to refuse cert.

When does it elevate from the state to the federal level? Wouldn’t this come before the NY State Supreme Court first?

 

[AlexBailey]

I’m starting to suspect that some of these really twisted right wing Lit. old-timers had multiple accounts even back then, and they bust them out now as needed.

I’m wondering if some troll farm has figured out how to hack old accounts. Maybe through an AOL email data breach.

 

[Lazaran]

I’m wondering if some troll farm has figured out how to hack old accounts. Maybe through an AOL email data breach.

Interesting possibility.

 

[PaxNurgle]

Maybe, but there have been a ton of new ones created in just the last couple days, and several of these I suspect are in fact the Hisarpy/Wizzard1488/etc. guy.

Funny that many of these new alts will preface their introduction with "I've been lurking a long time/am a long time member but this is my first post..." As if to make them seem more legit.

 

[dmallord]

PRESIDENT TRUMP IS BEING SENTENCED ON JULY 11TH!!The RNC Convention was supposed to start on July 15th to July 18th!These communists are throwing Donald Trump in jail 4 days before the RNC Convention so he can’t be nominated as Pres

Funny that. I believe Trump's lawyers asked for that date, and the Judge agreed. Have to check on that to be sure.

Just ducked out to check and found that Blanche asked for mid-July date. Then agreed with the judge on the 11th.

Mutual decision. BTW no one has said he is going to jail, yet.

 

[dmallord]

Here's something to ponder, this action just made a martyr of Trump. Also providing to the world that the United States has been reduced to a banana republic whose national debt is climbing at 1 trillion dollars every 100 or so days ( which is unstainable).. by your own admission he has a million "man" army. Imagine if Trump sought refuge with the Russians. Imagine the consequences this could have. 1, a nation divided, 2 a disgruntled population, 3 first world weapons in the hands of people who can blend in with the general public..... f.m.t.t. it would be a fucking blood bath....fuck me I want no absolutely no part of this shit.

A martyr, by definition, gives one's life for a cause. You are mistaken in thinking Trump is or would consider martyrdom for a cause.

He lives for one reason—to sustain himself at the cost of others. One need only recall his remarks about why soldiers gave their lives for others when they got nothing out of it themselves. A person with that mentality would never be a martyr.

 

[Bray123]

Trump made sure he bought and paid for the SCOTUS in the hours before his sorry ass was dragged out of the White House. He knew full well the day would come when he would need a fixed system.

 

[dmallord]

When does it elevate from the state to the federal level? Wouldn’t this come before the NY State Supreme Court first?

Misconstrued statement. There were three categories the jury could associate with this: it violated a state election law; a federal law, or a state financial records fraud law. It didn't have to rise to the Federal one. It could be the other two.

The jury didn't have to specify which one they found valid. Irony there.

 

[DaddysSissySlut24]

Never a doubt and anyone celebrating it who is a U.S. resident and plans to stay that way should be doing quite the opposite of celebrating. If celebrating you are either a fool or...a fool. Just remember, YOUR guy won't be in power forever, so...you just need to decide what kind of country you want to live in. The U.S.? Is fucked. Anyone thinking otherwise is horribly naive. But we've been fucked for almost a century, so...but it is hitting the 100th monkey. Very soon. It's no coincidence the SCOTUS is considering denying all firearm permits. But ironically, no matter, I follow "the law" just to the extent that I do recognize getting caught has consequences, but "respect" for the law? Right. If I can get away with it, I'm doing it. Otherwise? BTW, this Trump verdict has no effect on my attitudes regarding so-called "laws". That was established decades ago when I realized all religions were rubbish.

 

[Bray123]

Never a doubt and anyone celebrating it who is a U.S. resident and plans to stay that way should be doing quite the opposite of celebrating. If celebrating you are either a fool or...a fool. Just remember, YOUR guy won't be in power forever, so...you just need to decide what kind of country you want to live in. The U.S.? Is fucked. Anyone thinking otherwise is horribly naive. But we've been fucked for almost a century, so...but it is hitting the 100th monkey. Very soon. It's no coincidence the SCOTUS is considering denying all firearm permits. But ironically, no matter, I follow "the law" just to the extent that I do recognize getting caught has consequences, but "respect" for the law? Right. If I can get away with it, I'm doing it. Otherwise? BTW, this Trump verdict has no effect on my attitudes regarding so-called "laws". That was established decades ago when I realized all religions were rubbish.

Fake news and we're not frightened.

Try harder.

 

[AlexBailey]

Misconstrued statement. There were three categories the jury could associate with this: it violated a state election law; a federal law, or a state financial records fraud law. It didn't have to rise to the Federal one. It could be the other two.

The jury didn't have to specify which one they found valid. Irony there.

I’m referring to the appeal process. What steps will it need to go through before a SCOTUS decision?

 

[Rightguide]

The Democrats are strong and powerful, and Donald Trump is weak and helpless. They're going to use the full legal power of the United States to grind the former President into dust.

What BSG is demonstrating here is known in the scientific field as Peri-orgasmic phenomena which refers to the various physiological and psychological experiences that occur in the moments leading up to, during, and immediately following an orgasm. While laughter is a common response during or after orgasm for some individuals, here we observe BSG expressing a mattress-thumping emotional response indicative of a range of psychological conditions, such as unresolved trauma, anger management issues, or a deeply entrenched political stance against the former President.

 

[Rightguide]

I’m referring to the appeal process. What steps will it need to go through before a SCOTUS decision?

A trip to the NY Court of Appeals and then to the SCOTUS or the SCOTUS could take this up under certain circumstances in which the Supreme Court may become involved earlier in the process. For example, if a case involves a significant constitutional question or if there is a dispute over federal law, the Supreme Court may choose to exercise its jurisdiction to hear the case before it has been fully adjudicated at the lower court level. Additionally, if there is a legal question that requires immediate resolution or if there is a request for emergency relief, a party may petition the Supreme Court for review before the case has been decided by lower courts. The impending success of a national election comes to mind, This would take the shape of what is called an interlocutory appeal. I will note the court tries to refrain from taking these appeals but if the issue is important enough they might do so.

 

[Rightguide]

Donald Trump falsified business records which is a felony. Neither Bill or Hillary Clinton, nor Barack Obama nor Joe Biden have committed ANY crimes. They're all squeaky clean.

Ideological blindness has profoundly impacted how our friend BSG perceives and interprets reality. As having suffered from ideological blindness, her beliefs, values, and biases shape her understanding of events, facts, and information, often leading to a skewed or distorted view of reality. She has selective perception as well and tends to notice and remember information that confirms her existing beliefs while dismissing or downplaying information that contradicts them. all of which leads people like BSG to construct a version of reality that conforms to their ideological worldview, even if it dangerously strays away from objective reality.

 

[Rotadom]

^^^
A trip to the NY Court of Appeals and then to the SCOTUS or the SCOTUS could take this up under certain circumstances in which the Supreme Court may become involved earlier in the process. For example, if a case involves a significant constitutional question or if there is a dispute over federal law, the Supreme Court may choose to exercise its jurisdiction to hear the case before it has been fully adjudicated at the lower court level. Additionally, if there is a legal question that requires immediate resolution or if there is a request for emergency relief, a party may petition the Supreme Court for review before the case has been decided by lower courts. The impending success of a national election comes to mind, This would take the shape of what is called an interlocutory appeal. I will note the court tries to refrain from taking these appeals but if the issue is important enough they might do so.

Pair of lawyers on jury of ‘12 everyday New Yorkers’ helped convict Trump: Experts​

Legal experts told Courthouse News that Donald Trump’s defense erred by keeping two Manhattan lawyers on the jury panel: “You rarely have one, much less two.”

 

[AlexBailey]

Pair of lawyers on jury of ‘12 everyday New Yorkers’ helped convict Trump: Experts​

Legal experts told Courthouse News that Donald Trump’s defense erred by keeping two Manhattan lawyers on the jury panel: “You rarely have one, much less two.”

I suspect that the defense’s hubris led them to believe it was a good idea for them. I think that many of these sycophants believe the bullshit they spew. They seem to think it shouldn’t matter if Trump breaks laws to combat democracy. They want the law to recognize him as superior to all other citizens.

 

[InThe312]

A trip to the NY Court of Appeals and then to the SCOTUS or the SCOTUS could take this up under certain circumstances in which the Supreme Court may become involved earlier in the process. For example, if a case involves a significant constitutional question or if there is a dispute over federal law, the Supreme Court may choose to exercise its jurisdiction to hear the case before it has been fully adjudicated at the lower court level. Additionally, if there is a legal question that requires immediate resolution or if there is a request for emergency relief, a party may petition the Supreme Court for review before the case has been decided by lower courts. The impending success of a national election comes to mind, This would take the shape of what is called an interlocutory appeal. I will note the court tries to refrain from taking these appeals but if the issue is important enough they might do so.

I'm glad this popped up as I was typing about the same thing. My gut says if sentencing is reasonable and delayed pending appeal, SCOTUS won't touch it with a 100 ft pole. If he's sentenced to 4 years in prison and walked out of court in handcuffs for immediate remand, I think we'll see some kind of emergency relief from somewhere.

I don't think there is anything in the case that SCOTUS wouldn't leave to the state courts to sort out first. No matter how many talking heads suggest it, IMO SCOTUS is not going to directly overturn his conviction prior to the standard appeals process playing out.

My prediction is we'll see Donald out on the campaign trail with little restriction, but he'll still be a convicted felon come November.

 

[AlexBailey]

I'm glad this popped up as I was typing about the same thing. My gut says if sentencing is reasonable and delayed pending appeal, SCOTUS won't touch it with a 100 ft pole. If he's sentenced to 4 years in prison and walked out of court in handcuffs for immediate remand, I think we'll see some kind of emergency relief from somewhere.

I don't think there is anything in the case that SCOTUS wouldn't leave to the state courts to sort out first. No matter how many talking heads suggest it, IMO SCOTUS is not going to directly overturn his conviction prior to the standard appeals process playing out.

My prediction is we'll see Donald out on the campaign trail with little restriction, but he'll still be a convicted felon come November.

I agree with your gut feelings on this. I’m guessing you’re spot on, though I think justice could only be served if Trump was treated to at least the same penalty and period of incarceration as his previously indicted co-conspirator.


That whole issue of Cohen doing time but Bill Barr’s DOJ letting Trump off for the same crime shows the true political warfare in this case.

Trumps entire administration was the criminal cabal they try to accuse the Bidens of.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

What BSG is demonstrating here is known in the scientific field as Peri-orgasmic phenomena which refers to the various physiological and psychological experiences that occur in the moments leading up to, during, and immediately following an orgasm. While laughter is a common response during or after orgasm for some individuals, here we observe BSG expressing a mattress-thumping emotional response indicative of a range of psychological conditions, such as unresolved trauma, anger management issues, or a deeply entrenched political stance against the former President.

I do enjoy seeing Donald Trump brought to justice, but my enjoyment fell far short of orgasm.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

Ideological blindness has profoundly impacted how our friend BSG perceives and interprets reality. As having suffered from ideological blindness, her beliefs, values, and biases shape her understanding of events, facts, and information, often leading to a skewed or distorted view of reality. She has selective perception as well and tends to notice and remember information that confirms her existing beliefs while dismissing or downplaying information that contradicts them. all of which leads people like BSG to construct a version of reality that conforms to their ideological worldview, even if it dangerously strays away from objective reality.

The objective reality is that Donald Trump is a convicted criminal, and Obama, Biden, and the Clintons are not.